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Manchester City Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

Syn_13

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Baldini has great deal to answer for IMHO. AVB looks shell shocked. Levy fine in my books, I would have sacked H.

City have beaten better teams than us by cricket scores - thats what money gets you, when spent correctly.

I don't think we spent badly in the summer. The players we brought in were probably the best we could get with our pulling power and financial limitations. I don't know how it works at the club but I've always thought that the final decision for transfers should be with the manager. Only he could truly say whether a player is going to fit his system or not. If he gave the thumbs up to all of those buys then AVB is culpable for not agreeing to get in the right players for the job, or that his tactical vision is flawed. If he had no say in the matter then Levy obviously has too much of a say for his own good and Baldini should've been working closer with the manager. His position is to bridge that gap between manager and board, not create an entirely new one.

The difference between our spending and City's isn't wisdom. They had the power, as a no-name club, to turn round and say to the biggest players in the world "we will pay you a king's ransom to play for us". They dangled carrots in the form of massive pay packets to players and, probably more importantly, to their agents too. It's the way football works nowadays, unfortunately. Teams like us who haven't got that kind of pulling power, nor the history of a team like United or Liverpool, just cannot compete with that financially. We need a good portion of skill, combined with a lot of luck to make that breakthrough. A manager with real vision or tactical nous, or getting hold of a collection of players that suddenly peak and break into form. Probably a bit of both, like the way Dortmund have come good in recent years.
 

Sweetsman

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I would have said Harry was the one that moved Bale first, and he kept moving. To say City can do that to anyone is like saying we can win the league. We can, but we won't, and city won't do it too many times, no club ever has.
Harry did start the move to the right wing and then got the songs about moving him to the left . However, AVB played him more centrally. You and the rest need to get over Redknapp. City lost to Villa and Cardiff, whereas we won. We've lost heavily to City before, but did you disparage Redknapp? I didn't FYI.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Harry did start the move to the right wing and then got the songs about moving him to the left . However, AVB played him more centrally. You and the rest need to get over Redknapp. City lost to Villa and Cardiff, whereas we won. We've lost heavily to City before, but did you disparage Redknapp? I didn't FYI.


No Spurs fan currently should "get over Redknapp". Our current season suggests that we should be remembering Redknapp. What the fuck else is their to reminisce about from this disaster called AVB?

I thought that we beat Man Citeh to secure a CL place with 100 million pounds worth of less talent than available to our manager today?........oh and kept a clean sheet in doing so. Yes "forget Redknapp" you say, perhaps to save embarrassment for the man chosen to lead us to the promised land.

City also lost to Sunderland......so what?
 

Sweetsman

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We lose six nil and the players look unhappy. This is construed as losing the dressing room. It's a hunch, apparently. Next news, newt awarded Nobel Prize for medicine.
 

kidby33

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If we win against Tromso and then beat Utd this result will quickly be forgotten. We need to get behind our team and manager right now. Wont achieve much by turning on them
If we beat Tromso, Oh come on that's the lease we can do they are no more then a championship club , as for beating United I cant see it , can you!
 

Sweetsman

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No Spurs fan currently should "get over Redknapp". Our current season suggests that we should be remembering Redknapp. What the fuck else is their to reminisce about from this disaster called AVB?

I thought that we beat Man Citeh to secure a CL place with 100 million pounds worth of less talent than available to our manager today?........oh and kept a clean sheet in doing so. Yes "forget Redknapp" you say, perhaps to save embarrassment for the man chosen to lead us to the promised land.

City also lost to Sunderland......so what?
Are you back for another whupping? Try reading back your last sentence and think about aberrant results. Then see a psychiatrist or get an MRI to see if you have a brain (hint: start scanning the buttocks first)
 

guiltyparty

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No Spurs fan currently should "get over Redknapp". Our current season suggests that we should be remembering Redknapp. What the fuck else is their to reminisce about from this disaster called AVB?

I thought that we beat Man Citeh to secure a CL place with 100 million pounds worth of less talent than available to our manager today?........oh and kept a clean sheet in doing so. Yes "forget Redknapp" you say, perhaps to save embarrassment for the man chosen to lead us to the promised land.

City also lost to Sunderland......so what?

He didn't have £100m less talent tho did he as he had Bale, Modric, VDV etc. And City are a vastly superior team now than they were then

Not that it's here nor there but it's a false equivalence
 

Sweetsman

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'Arry hasn't done anymore than AVB. We only got fourth because the other teams faltered not because of the points tally. Plus he lost the plot over higher pay with England.
Now, there you go bringing up inconvenient facts? For the record, I have never wanted any manager sacked and the only time I've been angered by Levy was when he sacked Jol, specifically the manner and timing.
 

chris_theo

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Heads cleared a bit now , so here goes my pennys worth at around 12.30 today when the team was announced many people on here and including myseft was happy to see the side Avb had picked , Kaboul, Lamara lennon in fact some congratulated him on the side he had picked , roll forward to 1.30 and 14 seconds and Llores as a right howler , this seems to have been lost on many posters on here , the whole game plan is out of the window befor the game as hardly started , after 5 minutes we get a foothold in the game until again llores again finds the opposition from a kick out of defence , 2-0. from then on heads drop and we saw what happened from there . Can avb be totally accountable from mistakes made from surposely the best keeper in the premiership . The last goal verts just looked totally dis-intrested in the game , ok left back is not your perfered position but the bigger picture is the team and the club who pay your wages . Avb needs to sort out the players who will take us forward and ship out the hangers on whoever they are . As for city being world beaters god we gave them four of there goals .
Sorry buddy but i completely disagree with you. Ask yourself why they are passing back to the keeper, matter or fact, they contiued to do it throughout the game despite two goals being conceded from thes ame manner. Why do they do this? They are instructed to thats why. This is the first game we've set up like this, its every freaking gane and it's so hard to watch!

It just so happens we got caught out this time and did we learn from the mistakes, you bet your ass we didn't!

Verts looked unhappy granted but u cant blame him for that, played out of position and 6-0 down, he's not going to be all smiles.

I can work my ass off at work but if my boss is telling me to do something that doesnt make sense, i still have to try and do it, doesn't mean it will work.
 

Graysonti

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I don't think we spent badly in the summer. The players we brought in were probably the best we could get with our pulling power and financial limitations. I don't know how it works at the club but I've always thought that the final decision for transfers should be with the manager. Only he could truly say whether a player is going to fit his system or not. If he gave the thumbs up to all of those buys then AVB is culpable for not agreeing to get in the right players for the job, or that his tactical vision is flawed. If he had no say in the matter then Levy obviously has too much of a say for his own good and Baldini should've been working closer with the manager. His position is to bridge that gap between manager and board, not create an entirely new one.

The difference between our spending and City's isn't wisdom. They had the power, as a no-name club, to turn round and say to the biggest players in the world "we will pay you a king's ransom to play for us". They dangled carrots in the form of massive pay packets to players and, probably more importantly, to their agents too. It's the way football works nowadays, unfortunately. Teams like us who haven't got that kind of pulling power, nor the history of a team like United or Liverpool, just cannot compete with that financially. We need a good portion of skill, combined with a lot of luck to make that breakthrough. A manager with real vision or tactical nous, or getting hold of a collection of players that suddenly peak and break into form. Probably a bit of both, like the way Dortmund have come good in recent years.

The same lolpool we beat to Dempsey, sigs and Eriksn and have been above the last four years? The lolpool in Liverpool? Players give two fucks to history and you talk s........
 

Bennys LOL

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No Spurs fan currently should "get over Redknapp". Our current season suggests that we should be remembering Redknapp. What the fuck else is their to reminisce about from this disaster called AVB?

I thought that we beat Man Citeh to secure a CL place with 100 million pounds worth of less talent than available to our manager today?........oh and kept a clean sheet in doing so. Yes "forget Redknapp" you say, perhaps to save embarrassment for the man chosen to lead us to the promised land.

City also lost to Sunderland......so what?

Harrys at QPR not spurs, do you want me to find a link to their page, you'd be more useful there pal.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Are you back for another whupping? Try reading back your last sentence and think about aberrant results. Then see a psychiatrist or get an MRI to see if you have a brain (hint: start scanning the buttocks first)


Are you back for another whupping?

You talking to me or Andre?


I admire your loyalty to this so very much lost cause. I will come visit you after the inevitable, just to make sure you have removed those rose tinted glasses that's blocking your view.
 
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