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Sunderland Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

theShiznit

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Well done Paulinho.

Paulinho scored yes, but missed 2 absolute sitters, more so than anything Defoe missed, one a complete swing and miss in front of a practically open goal and a free header which it was easier to score than put wide.

And if he's going to play as an auxilary striker then he really should tell his CM partner, as i don't think they'll last long (well Dembele died on about 70 minutes)
 

Shea

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AVB's praising the win as absolutely outstanding and a great great win

Don't mean to piss on his parade but this is the type of away win any top team should be expecting not marvelling at like it was a miracle

I couldn't imagine Sir Alex ever seeing a win like this as being absolutely outstanding

It is a good win and a great fight back from the depths of the City match but the reality of the game is we narrowly beat a poor team via an own goal and a blind ref missing an obvious penalty

A great great win would have been for us to have stuffed 5-6 goals past them as we probably could or even should have had we gone for the kill for the 90 mins like we did for a period in the second half

Its encouraging no doubt and there are signs of improved understanding between the players and some adaptability from the manager but there's still surely so much more hard work to do to get things right

I think he's more relieved than he is happy tonight to be fair
 

mill

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[quote="nightgoat, post: 3729733, member: they'llPresumably the media are going to make a massive song and dance about Sunderland's penalty shout but completely ignore Brown's foul on Dawson in the first half that should have been a penalty.[/quote]


Who gives a shit? Fuck the media, besides they'll be all over moyes lol
 

only1waddle

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This is the problem. Spurs played the worst 2 teams in the league and we were not convincing. Forget we should have won by 5.... We didn't and we didn't play great. Same against fulham. Our tempo is way too slow and the good teams will and have beaten us.

Won by 5?

They put 3 past Chelsea!!!!!
 

Wsussexspur

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Obviously happy with the three points and thought for 20 minutes in the 2nd half we looked really good a created quite a few chances which we really should have put away. Hope to see Soldardo starting for the Liverpool game. Defoes had his chances while he was unlucky hitting the post twice he had two or three other chances he really should have scored with. Thought Walker was brilliant today. Bit worrying about the errors creeping into Loris game he needs to cut them out!
 

TheSecretNonFootballer

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AVB's praising the win as absolutely outstanding and a great great win

Don't mean to piss on his parade but this is the type of away win any top team should be expecting not marvelling at like it was a miracle

I couldn't imagine Sir Alex ever seeing a win like this as being absolutely outstanding

It is a good win and a great fight back from the depths of the City match but the reality of the game is we narrowly beat a poor team via an own goal and a blind ref missing an obvious penalty

A great great win would have been for us to have stuffed 5-6 goals past them as we probably could or even should have had we gone for the kill for the 90 mins like we did for a period in the second half

Its encouraging no doubt and there are signs of improved understanding between the players and some adaptability from the manager but there's still surely so much more hard work to do to get things right

I think he's more relieved than he is happy tonight to be fair

City lost there a few weeks ago...
 

stevenurse

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A lot, lot better. The type of performance away from home we are capable of but never seen to produce.

We looked like scoring but the woeful finishing really is a concern
 

Armstrong_11

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u guys realize its the BOTTOM TEAM in the league??? yeah we won 2-1, but it could have been 2-2...

strange that i am the only one disappointed that the team didn't look hungry enough to kill the game off. teams like liverpool, arsenal, man city, when on top, they keep their level up and finish the game. we didn't do it, and it HAS came back to bite us in the past.

we lived dangerously, and its something we need to change if u want 4th.
 

glacierSpurs

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I don't think this was the game for Lamela. It got very scrappy at times.
actually I thought otherwise... Lamela could be useful up there exploiting all the gaps left by Sunderland defenders searching for equaliser... a 3rd goal for us might have gotten him up and probably AVB saw the gamble to that decision...
 

DiscoD1882

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So many pessimists trying to justify their stance on here. Can't even be happy with a win. Amazing. I'll sleep well knowing we have another 3 points in the bag.
 

davidmatzdorf

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A lot of Spurs players were very good today. Unlike others, I thought Defoe was very, very good. He's in one of the those phases where he can't buy a break (how many times did he hit the woodwork, 2 or 3?), but his movement was intelligent, he passed when he needed to pass and he easily beat Sunderland's rather sluggish offside trap. He worked well with Lennon, Holtby and Paulinho. He's just a streaky player who isn't on a streak right now.

I'm unable to find a bad individual performance, although Lloris' handling was very erratic and their goal resulted from his bad judgment and execution. As for the team and its tactical approach, that's different.

During the first half hour, we pursued the same infuriating tendency to slow the ball down unnecessarily. On two occasions, we had genuine counter-attacks underway, with 4 or 5 quick players streaming up the pitch, but the moment we got to the edge of the final third, the man in possession slowed down and waited for the Sunderland defence to get back into position before laying off the ball laterally. Why did we do this? If this is a managerial instruction, then it has either been misinterpreted or it is being practiced too rigidly. The change, especially after half time, suggests that the players are executing this tactic too religiously and that AVB wants them to be more flexible and responsive to events on the pitch, because we stopped doing it.

I can't recall a half this season when we got multiple players in the box and repeatedly got the ball into the corners and behind the defence the way we did in today's second half. Had we got more than 4 or 5 of our 20+ shots on target, the game would have been a massacre. As usual, we didn't.

Two come-from-behind away wins in four days is a good return for a strong, mentally tough squad, but both of our attacking problems are still present and correct: in the first half, lack of penetration and no change of pace; in the second half, wayward finishing.

Special mention to Dawson and Capoue, who were resolute and worked well together. As did both fullbacks, especially Walker.
 

theShiznit

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I thought Holtby was excellent today, always made himself available for the ball, worked his nuts off, was more composed than normal, played a few nice incisive passes play Townsend there and it's another licence to shoot.
I'm sure Soldado would've loved that pass to break the offside trap and feed in Defoe for the one on one...

Great pass, and (as you say) he worked his absolute nuts off for the team today was doing three jobs pretty much; covering Paulinho's jaunts into the box, and doing Defoe's job in closing the defence as furthest forward.

Did not leave anything on the pitch.
 

LSUY

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u guys realize its the BOTTOM TEAM in the league??? yeah we won 2-1, but it could have been 2-2...

strange that i am the only one disappointed that the team didn't look hungry enough to kill the game off. teams like liverpool, arsenal, man city, when on top, they keep their level up and finish the game. we didn't do it, and it HAS came back to bite us in the past.

we lived dangerously, and its something we need to change if u want 4th.

Man City lost at Sunderland. Chelsea and Man Utd only scored one more than Sunderland to win up there.
 
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