Tottenham Vs Liverpool: Match Thread

Hoddle&Waddle · Dec 15, 2013

spursbri111 said:
they hit post twice and missed a few .could easily have been 9-0.

If it wasnt for Lloris it would have been worse deffo

walworthyid · Dec 15, 2013

shelfboy68 said:
Fair enough I suppose but I'm sure that we all want the best for this club but sometimes some people are not right for certain jobs and this looks the case here.
Whatever happens to avb over the next few days if he goes I wish him well and hope he is a success elsewhere.

I think he needs to go away and have a look at the way he sees football being played. He is far too rigid to be successful in situations where he doesn't have exactly the right players. Just think about the way he wants football played and it is so clearly wrong. You must pass the ball quickly and there must be movement but he wants players to essentially stand still and pass the ball across the pitch in the hope that the opposition die of bloody boredom.

Hoddle&Waddle · Dec 15, 2013

arunspurs said:
My personal choice - Marco Bielsa (ex Argentine, ex Chile ex Athletico Bilbao manager).

Highly rated - Master tactician & a fucking task master. And if anyone don't know, Bielsa is Pochettino's Mentor. He changed Chile national team, from the grass root level.

He is the only top manager, who is in the market. Even he is currently in talks with taking Peru national team.

We need experienced manager at helm.

Good shout, he seems to be a bit crazy but on a 1/2 year deal well worth a punt.

Greenspur · Dec 15, 2013

CosmicHotspur said:
I love Spurs, always have and always will but there's no point in denying that we are in one hell of a mess right now. Not a single shot on target today, poor passing, poor defending and lack of pace for most of the game.

Outplayed and outclassed and not for the first time this season. We've scraped by against some inferior opposition and perhaps have been kidding ourselves we're better than we really are.

We know it takes time to build a team but why are we playing so poorly? Training? Tactics? Lack of confidence? All three? Do we blame the players or the manager or all of them? WE IS US?

I'm very sad after this latest performance and result. It hurts.

This may sound like a glib answer, but my son said to me that AVB is not a coach or manager. He's a statistician and a game analyser. I think I agree.

Grapo2001 said:
What an absolute numpty. And some guy on here wanted him as interim manager!

That sounds pretty reasonable to me. He can manage the interims anytime he wants.

arunspurs · Dec 15, 2013

Cadena Ser , Spanish radio reporting AVB sacked....rumour or truth ?

yojambo · Dec 15, 2013

Don't really understand how we can be so exposed at the back yet isolated up front and non existent in mid field. It baffles me.

Wsussexspur · Dec 15, 2013

arunspurs said:
Cadena Ser , Spanish radio reporting AVB sacked....rumour or truth ?

Probably false!

TottenhamMattSpur · Dec 15, 2013

EyeTieNick said:
What's the Twitter picture?

Ade and Benny sharing a 5 finger salute.

TBH I don't blame them either. Ones been sent on loan despite being a top player the others been banishedfrom the team for what?

2bearis2do · Dec 15, 2013

Sweetsman said:
He tried to play Sandro, but he broke down. Your thoughts are not worth anything.

As are your ratings.

riggi · Dec 15, 2013

TottenhamMattSpur said:
Ade and Benny sharing a 5 finger salute.

TBH I don't blame them either. Ones been sent on loan despite being a top player the others been banishedfrom the team for what?

Seriously? I swear some people don't have a fucking brain cell. Almost kicked off in park lane lower at the end because some mug with a burgundy scarf decided to have his photo take with a massive fucking grin on his face.

nferno · Dec 15, 2013

arunspurs said:
My personal choice - Marco Bielsa (ex Argentine, ex Chile ex Athletico Bilbao manager).

Highly rated - Master tactician & a fucking task master. And if anyone don't know, Bielsa is Pochettino's Mentor. He changed Chile national team, from the grass root level.

He is the only top manager, who is in the market. Even he is currently in talks with taking Peru national team.

We need experienced manager at helm.

not to mention he'd actually play lamela as much as possible to acclimatise him.

arunspurs · Dec 15, 2013

Four reason why AVB lost my confidence

i) LB situation - whether BAE had attitude problems or not - to loan him & replace him with Naughton/Rose.

ii) We had 2 CM who can pick a pass. One we loaned to QPR, other has been sold to Hull. And we replaced them with Paulinho - who is good player but really we needed a passer.

iii) Biggest of all- buying 7 players & not playing them regulalry. When you dont play them toghter, how canthey gel ? Vertonghen=Vlad not played together. Lamela, Eriksen,Soldado - not played together.

iv) Just when you think, a player has found form, you dont play him (except Soldado today)

markieboy · Dec 15, 2013

yojambo said:
Don't really understand how we can be so exposed at the back yet isolated up front and non existent in mid field. It baffles me.

I know It sounds like an impossible feat but no..............we actually managed it.

arunspurs · Dec 15, 2013

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Gonna be a long night ......

SpurSince57 · Dec 15, 2013

TheGreenLily said:
There is rotation, then there is changing the team every bloody game.

Harry never rotated, and AVB is over doing it. I though the whole point of rotation, was to give your usually best team players a break when needed.

Like some said earlier in another thread a week or so ago, Levy getting these players in one go has given AVB a massive headache as he is probably being forced to please everyone.

You build a squad gradually over time.

Do you really think AVB and Baldini were forced to take these players against their will?

paulcumpstone · Dec 15, 2013

arunspurs said:
Four reason why AVB lost my confidence

i) LB situation - whether BAE had attitude problems or not - to loan him & replace him with Naughton/Rose.

ii) We had 2 CM who can pick a pass. One we loaned to QPR, other has been sold to Hull. And we replaced them with Paulinho - who is good player but really we needed a passer.

iii) Biggest of all- buying 7 players & not playing them regulalry. When you dont play them toghter, how canthey gel ? Vertonghen=Vlad not played together. Lamela, Eriksen,Soldado - not played together.

iv) Just when you think, a player has found form, you dont play him (except Soldado today)

spot on, man has no idea what hes doing, another example for you, Harry Kane came on and made a really decent impression in the league cup vs Hull and has not seen a minutes football since.

strader · Dec 15, 2013

DFF said:
So glad I'm going to the Stoke game. Might finally get to see some flair at WHL.

its quotes like that make this thread worth it and cheer me up after such a dire performance and result.

dondo · Dec 15, 2013

yojambo said:
Don't really understand how we can be so exposed at the back yet isolated up front and non existent in mid field. It baffles me.

Tactics of immense dimensions

shelfboy68 · Dec 15, 2013

walworthyid said:
I think he needs to go away and have a look at the way he sees football being played. He is far too rigid to be successful in situations where he doesn't have exactly the right players. Just think about the way he wants football played and it is so clearly wrong. You must pass the ball quickly and there must be movement but he wants players to essentially stand still and pass the ball across the pitch in the hope that the opposition die of bloody boredom.

Totally agree if the right person can be found quickly then we could still get something out of this season but his football doesn't work for us at all just look at the job martinez and rogers have done says it all.
This was as bad as it gets and everything has gone against him the ade situation the press and the shit football.
But my memory of him will be beating utd at old Trafford last year priceless.

CosmicHotspur · Dec 15, 2013

No longer WE IS US - he's taking full responsibility for this one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25392928

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