Kendall
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Maybe because they're just getting on with it?
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Maybe because they're just getting on with it?
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I think we would have got him for 30 million and seeing as he was backed with '160 million' we could afford the fee.
dirtyh
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I remember us all being sat here at the end of the window, willian aside, thinking what great attacking options we've got. I still feel the same. We just need someone in charge who can get the best out of them without getting bogged down in personal vendettas or political stuff. Obviously, just fricking playing them in a game would help. The players themselves will know what the best eleven within the squad is. If it's summarily played there cannot be any disharmony, that's always been my experience with playing footy anyway.
AVB may not have had the exact players he wanted but jeez, we ultimately signed players that were the target of most of the clubs of europe and he then proceeded to leave them out, even when we were crying out for a spark of hope/inspiration. I've heard of cutting off your nose to spite your face but that was the equivalent of taking a chainsaw to your underjubblies.
AVB may not have had the exact players he wanted but jeez, we ultimately signed players that were the target of most of the clubs of europe and he then proceeded to leave them out, even when we were crying out for a spark of hope/inspiration. I've heard of cutting off your nose to spite your face but that was the equivalent of taking a chainsaw to your underjubblies.
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AVB got on with it too but he wasn't allowed to finish the job. I can see more and more good coaches turning us down.
Singaspur
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Maybe AVB wasn't 'the one'. The football this season has been terrible but I hoped he'd be given the rest of the season to try to get the team to gel, figure out his best team etc. even if we didn't do well. THEN judge if there were enough 'green shoots' to say he was the right man to lead us on. He didn't have much of a chance to do that because of our horrific injury problems.
The football last season wasn't great either I'll admit but results were decent and I think he did manage that without getting (or keeping) the players he wanted. He made a pretty good fist of it with what he was given. Then we sold Bale and bought a raft load of good/promising players and lost many of them to injuries for big chunks of the season and, yes, we played shit football, but were still in decent shape results-wise. Was this really the time to pull the plug?
And if Levy thought he wasn't up to it based on last season's performance, why the fuck didn't he sack him in summer and get in someone he thought was? Levy clearly calls the shots on player deals and decided to cash in on Bale and basically buy a new squad of mostly young-ish, inexperienced in the PL but promising players (with resale value potential upside). 5 games into this season there were real hopes we would be title challengers although most of us realised that was probably unrealistic with a bunch of new players. 10 games on the club has decided AVB is the wrong coach for the rest of this season? Bizzarre.
I don't know who we should get in to replace AVB. Actually I don't think there is ANYONE out there who can come in and wave a magic wand and bring us instant success. The main thing i think is that Levy has to be honest with the new manager as to what LEVY is gonna do. And the truth is that Levy is gonna sell our best players if he thinks the money is good and then buy cheaper, less experienced players, not give the manager much time and expect top 4. So Levy isn't gonna tell them the truth. And we are likely to repeat the cycle. So, yes, hoping we play more enterprising football under our new manager (Sherwood or whoever) but the optimism that we MIGHT be building something really great is gone. That's what's depressing.
The football last season wasn't great either I'll admit but results were decent and I think he did manage that without getting (or keeping) the players he wanted. He made a pretty good fist of it with what he was given. Then we sold Bale and bought a raft load of good/promising players and lost many of them to injuries for big chunks of the season and, yes, we played shit football, but were still in decent shape results-wise. Was this really the time to pull the plug?
And if Levy thought he wasn't up to it based on last season's performance, why the fuck didn't he sack him in summer and get in someone he thought was? Levy clearly calls the shots on player deals and decided to cash in on Bale and basically buy a new squad of mostly young-ish, inexperienced in the PL but promising players (with resale value potential upside). 5 games into this season there were real hopes we would be title challengers although most of us realised that was probably unrealistic with a bunch of new players. 10 games on the club has decided AVB is the wrong coach for the rest of this season? Bizzarre.
I don't know who we should get in to replace AVB. Actually I don't think there is ANYONE out there who can come in and wave a magic wand and bring us instant success. The main thing i think is that Levy has to be honest with the new manager as to what LEVY is gonna do. And the truth is that Levy is gonna sell our best players if he thinks the money is good and then buy cheaper, less experienced players, not give the manager much time and expect top 4. So Levy isn't gonna tell them the truth. And we are likely to repeat the cycle. So, yes, hoping we play more enterprising football under our new manager (Sherwood or whoever) but the optimism that we MIGHT be building something really great is gone. That's what's depressing.
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I believe they could refuse, the issue is could they control a petulant Suarez if he doesn't get his move.
only1waddle
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Except we didn't have the £160 million at that point, and Anzhi met his buyout, we wouldn't have outbid them, as they were chucking cash around like it was going out of fashion.
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How much did we have to spend? Couldn't we have met the buyout clause as well?
Bus-Conductor
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They couldn't refuse it, trust me, only a couple of clubs could. And they definitely couldn't refuse the money we got for Bale. And they wouldn't be able to control a Suarez with RM in his sights either.
only1waddle
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Maybe if we hadn't bought both of Dempsey and Sigurdsson, but Anzhi still had a massive head start on us with their bottomless pit. Don't forget this is the club that put Eto on something like £300k a week.
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They refused a similar bid from Arsenal, if Arsenal had bid 60 million are you saying they would have got their man?
CowInAComa
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We got all those players to compensate for Modric, not just dembele, we got worldies in goal and at centre back.
top 4 or not. there is enough quality to not be absolute dogshit game after game after game
Consider the list of player brought over the length of his tenure its a bit rich to play the missed out on Willian and Moutinho cards.
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If we had a DOF when AVB wanted then perhaps we wouldn't have bought Sig and Dempsey and perhaps Baldini would have been persuaded Willian that we are the club to be at.
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But they do have a lot of money.
CowInAComa
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I didnt realise we sacked him in october.
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mpickard2087
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Yeah Liverpool got a fortunate run of events, the only club that were in the running were Arsenal and they were not really a major step up and couldn't pay the money.
The only clubs you think that could have put up the money and were seen as step up were:
- Madrid. But they were committed to getting Bale.
- Barca. Spent their money on Neymar.
- Bayern possibly. They had forked out for Gotze and Thiago.
- Chelsea was probably the only one that really were in a position to fork out for him.
Then there were other factors such as his suspension, his character and the fact he was saying he wanted to get out of England which may have put clubs off.
The only clubs you think that could have put up the money and were seen as step up were:
- Madrid. But they were committed to getting Bale.
- Barca. Spent their money on Neymar.
- Bayern possibly. They had forked out for Gotze and Thiago.
- Chelsea was probably the only one that really were in a position to fork out for him.
Then there were other factors such as his suspension, his character and the fact he was saying he wanted to get out of England which may have put clubs off.
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How does a Goalie and a defender compensate for the loss of Modric?
We are two points above United and he gets sacked, Moyes is still in his job.
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