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Man City offered a settlement by UEFA.

only1waddle

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I imagine that even the super rich clubs would be a bit put out by a £50M fine...although ultimately they can afford to pay it. As someone else has already said this is the first stage of punishment. If they break the FFP rules again next season you imagine the punishment will be even more severe, possibly including being thrown out of the competition. The fine though will be a huge deterent to all but the richest clubs. Even Chelsea will have to sit up and take notice of this. Manu Utd are actually going to be very lucky to miss out on Europe this season if they are planning to spend the £200M that the press keep talking about.

I'd love to know what they plan to do with the money though. Hopefully it will go into developing football somewhere at grassroots level but you have a feeling that it will just end up lining someones pockets.

Blatter will just order a couple more bottles of bubbly off the menu, the self appointed ****
 
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TheAmerican

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I have the feeling that this will all be dramatically reduced after that non-negotiable panel reviews it. UEFA doesn't seem to have a spine.
 

Huddlestone22

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I don't get the punishment.

They're getting into trouble for spending money, so the way to redeem themselves is to spend more money?
 

beats1

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Funny if they fall foul of next season's FFP rules due to this fine :D
Unfortunately fine wont count but with any rule change its unlikely it the harshest penalties are given out first, though UEFA wasn't too afraid of dishing it out last year of pre-existing rules.

Now Uefa want the tens to prove they are making cuts so if a team purposely breaks FFP to gain advantage that will result in a ban, i.e. City cutting costs down and down, find themselves in 6th then spending shit load to get in 1st again.
 

beats1

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How do man utd plan to spend £200m and remain within the FFP rules?
They make more revenue then any other team and next season they have £53million shirt deal with Chevrolet come in to effect. Interestingly the director who did the deal got sacked the day after he presented the deal to his co workers

I doubt they will spend £200million though
 

Casparian

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I have the feeling that this will all be dramatically reduced after that non-negotiable panel reviews it. UEFA doesn't seem to have a spine.


UEFA have clarified that Platini's statement a week or so ago was misquoted.He specifically said that he had no influence on decisions,the working bodies are independent of UEFA.He could also do with keeping his trap shut.

The position at present is that the "Investigative Chamber" (the lower-tier one) has found a number of clubs,of which Man City and PSG are two,guilty of rule breaches.They are now offered a "plea bargain" which they can either accept or reject.

If they reject it,it gets passed to the "Adjudicating Chamber" who can either enforce the previous verdict or impose a tougher penalty.The only appeal against this is to the Court of Arbitration in Sport who again can either uphold or reject the verdict.

Also at any time any other club directly affected by the verdict can also appeal against it (y)

For clarification or even just a polite reminder here are the sanctions available...

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/
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Not sure if it is common knowledge or not but nobody will be surprised to know or learn that PSG sponsor deal was allegedly, deemed twice what Fifa/Uefa deem as fair play and apparently from now on only half of whatever that deal was will be included as relevant income in future check's.
 
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ShayLaB

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According to the BBC the £50 million will actually be £16.5 million in prize money withheld for the next three years.
 

spurs9

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I don't get the punishment.

They're getting into trouble for spending money, so the way to redeem themselves is to spend more money?
I said a few months ago, they will only ban the clubs with no money and who don't generate much in the way of viewing figures, the rest will bet fines. UEFA/FIFA are only interested in making money not promoting fairness.
 

Toela65

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Just read that. I still think a fine (however large) or a transfer embargo for a season isn't really going to affect City or PSG that much. A fine isn't going to hurt them because they've got money dripping from every orifice, and a transfer embargo does nothing because they've already assembled squads full of expensive players. The only way to seriously punish them, and prevent other clubs from doing likewise is to ban them from Europe.

There's no mention of Liverpool directly in that article, but they're also one of the teams to have failed FFP yet UEFA have already said they won't face punishment due to the pathetic reason that they weren't in Europe this season. The Daily Star are now suggesting they're going to offer £38m for Ross Barkley. Where the fuck would they be getting that money from when they've made significant losses on player trading over the last few seasons with little or no money from European football?

Because all the latest losses have been written off and turned to equity by FSG and the released financial details are 18 months out of date.

We have increased our revenues MASSIVELY since the last accounts published through hugely increased commercial and sponsorship deals, increased TV money, increased prize money for finishing 2nd and the CL money that will be coming in for definite as were into the Group stages guaranteed. (http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/.../5aa11261e7c5c310VgnVCM3000003456f70aRCRD.htm)

More importantly I thought it seemed pretty fair and clear that UEFA cannot penalise a Club that haven't taken part in a UEFA sanctioned competition in the time period that they examine. Should the PL penalise QPR under their new FFP laws for the state they're in despite being in the Championship this year?

Liverpool have done nothing wrong UEFA FFP wise so don't deserve any punishment as much as I'm sure that angers and upsets you but thats the way it is. However, I may be able to satisfy your bad feelings towards my club by informing you that we may be in trouble when it comes to the EPL's own version of FFP (although nowhere near in as much shit as City).

You don't need to worry about our finances. FSG are very fiscally sound and won't put the club in debt or jeopardy like the last lot did. Its bollocks about Barkley but we do have substantial funds for this Summer but thats only the case because FSG and our MD say were in a healthy position financially so can afford to strengthen the depth of the squad. If FSG felt we couldn't afford it, we wouldn't spend it. Simple as that really.

Its nice that you take such a keen interest in my club despite being a Spurs fan Mr Goat. Long may it continue.
 

beats1

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Because all the latest losses have been written off and turned to equity by FSG and the released financial details are 18 months out of date.

We have increased our revenues MASSIVELY since the last accounts published through hugely increased commercial and sponsorship deals, increased TV money, increased prize money for finishing 2nd and the CL money that will be coming in for definite as were into the Group stages guaranteed. (http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/.../5aa11261e7c5c310VgnVCM3000003456f70aRCRD.htm)

More importantly I thought it seemed pretty fair and clear that UEFA cannot penalise a Club that haven't taken part in a UEFA sanctioned competition in the time period that they examine. Should the PL penalise QPR under their new FFP laws for the state they're in despite being in the Championship this year?

Liverpool have done nothing wrong UEFA FFP wise so don't deserve any punishment as much as I'm sure that angers and upsets you but thats the way it is. However, I may be able to satisfy your bad feelings towards my club by informing you that we may be in trouble when it comes to the EPL's own version of FFP (although nowhere near in as much shit as City).
Er mate you got this one wrong, it wasn't fair and clear that a club haven't taken part in a UEFA sanctioned doesn't get penalised. As in the future they may get penalised if they break even if they aren't in a uefa competition. The reason for not sanctioning the teams outside of the Uefa competitions was because them not applying for a licence meant that the lawyers and politicians doing the audits did have the accounts in time for punishment.

Uefa will be trying to work with the leagues to get this information quick enough in the future.
 

Toela65

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Does this 50mill fine go on their expenditure for next yrs FFP?

Daniel Geey, who is the Sports Lawyer and FFP expert says no. Follow him on twitter if anyone is interested in all this FFP stuff. he writes and speaks about it regularly and really knows his stuff and is great at explaining it and making it easy to understand it all.
 

Toela65

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How do man utd plan to spend £200m and remain within the FFP rules?

They won't be in a UEFA sanctioned club competition next season so can spend whatever they want this Summer and next January and it makes zero difference to FFP.
 
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