The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The SOS Edition 14th May 2014

Joeyboey · May 14, 2014

Breezer said:
Vert and Erisken already mentioned FDB is the best coach they've worked under. We know Liverpool wanted FDB. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he ended up at Ars with Bergkamp.

DL has had 6 months to plan who will be our next manager and the best he can come up with is Pochettino? Do me favour.... Shocking!!!!!

He needs to prove himself at least 1 more season in the prem before he's given a massive job at Spurs.

Rogers went to Liverpool with just one seasons premiership experience and finished 7th in his first season there.

If Pochettino comes to Spurs and finishes 7th in his first season he'll be sacked.

I don't care if we get Poch, FdB, Benitez etc etc. I just want us to show some patience and give the manager/coach the players they request, not a load of players with 12 months left on their contract and to not sell our best fucking players again and again and AGAIN!!!!

Levy needs to take off his fucking blinkers, for a chairman who preaches a long term vision, he's completely and utterly short sighted.

Supersi32 · May 14, 2014

robertgoulet said:
Argument can be made that it's not FdB's preferred style though. He's playing the Ajax style, he doesn't have a choice. From the bottom up that's how their players are drilled to play. He may very well like to play a different style, put his own spin on things. Can't do that at Ajax.

You could make that argument, though just from reading snippets its his philosophy that runs through the whole club currently.

etchedchaos · May 14, 2014

ExpatFan said:
Southampton.. if they keep Poch?

Not sure they'd have the talent after the big teams pick them clean.

Lufti · May 14, 2014

trasores said:
With a squad as good as southamptons last year (and the great youth set up they have) they really should have been challenging for europe / top 6.

Sorry to quote a few pages back..

But that sounds like a bit of a jump to me. Considering who finished 6th (Us), are you really telling me that those players are comparable to the players on our books?

JUSTINSIGNAL · May 14, 2014

I REALLY want Poch now, just to prove a few people wrong. I don't really care about the rationale anymore I just want to be dishing up humble pie this time next year!

Snarfalicious · May 14, 2014

ryantegan said:
Played 221 Won 76 Drawn 56 Lost 89 Percentage 34.39

welcome to Spurs Mr Pochettino. really deserve the gig on them numbers.

Dont give me bollocks about Martinez and Rodgers. Each man is an individual. We need Proactive. not Reactive

Levy is a complete muppet

Most of that came with a Espanyol side that was struggling in so many different ways. Took a club with a horrible league position (relegation zone) and financial stature and made them a mid-table side in La Liga. He knows how to effectively get his tactics across, he's just never had a squad with enough talent to take full advantage of it (a la Rodgers/Martinez at Swansea/Wigan). It's not hard to see why Levy and or the board would want him when we could possibly recreate what those aforementioned two have done at their bigger clubs. It's baffling why it's so hard for some to realize this.

onemorespursfan · May 14, 2014

Quote="Lufti, post: 4024531, member: 24552"]Sorry to quote a few pages back..

But that sounds like a bit of a jump to me. Considering who finished 6th (United), are you really telling me that those players are comparable to the players on United's books? Even with Moyes at the helm[/quote]

Didn't we finish 6th?

Lufti · May 14, 2014

onemorespursfan said:
Didn't we finish 6th?

True haha! There's me thinking we finished 5th again

Spurger King · May 14, 2014

Snarfalicious said:
It's baffling why it's so hard for some to realize this.

Plenty of people realise this. They just recognise that there are better options out there.

SonicSarr · May 14, 2014

Snarfalicious said:
Most of that came with a Espanyol side that was struggling in so many different ways. Took a club with a horrible league position (relegation zone) and financial stature and made them a mid-table side in La Liga. He knows how to effectively get his tactics across, he's just never had a squad with enough talent to take full advantage of it (a la Rodgers/Martinez at Swansea/Wigan). It's not hard to see why Levy and or the board would want him when we could possibly recreate what those aforementioned two have done at their bigger clubs. It's baffling why it's so hard for some to realize this.

Because that only might happen. He could just turn out to be a very average manager that overachieved at Espanol and Southampton & who hasn't got the ability to win anything. He has not proven anything. We can't afford another shot in the dark appointment. You might be right. If so then great, but a risky appointment nonetheless.

Lufti · May 14, 2014

Spurger King said:
Plenty of people realise this. They just recognise that there are better options out there.

Like? (Not having a go, just genuinely, what are the attainable 'better' options?)

FDB is as much of a risk imo, Benitez less so but I don't think he's attainable.

GutBucket · May 14, 2014

Pochettino apparently has no plan B, Rafa Benitez had issues with almost all club owners, FDB never managed in England, LVG also had issues with some chairmen and some players didn't like him etc. It's best if we hire no manager. Michael Dawson player-coach and captain of the team.

shelfboy68 · May 14, 2014

ryantegan said:
how?

This is my point...

people keep telling me its proven but I honestly cannot remember 1 single Southampton game last season. Be it league or cup.

They have not excited me

True also one decent season without pressure on him to finish in the moneypit zone they would have been more than happy to finish mid table.
Im concerned this is another disaster waiting in the wings.

Spurger King · May 14, 2014

Lufti said:
Like? (Not having a go, just genuinely, what are the attainable 'better' options?)

FDB is as much of a risk imo, Benitez less so but I don't think he's attainable.

Benitez for me. You're right though, he probably won't leave Napoli.

De Boer would be a risk as well, but at least we'd have a better chance of keeping Verts, would have a manager that values Eriksen extremely highly, and who has a big international reputation.

Ultimately I'm just glad we're not after Alan "I'll nut ya, ya bastard" Pardew, or Sammy Sadsack.

Lufti · May 14, 2014

Spurger King said:
Benitez for me. You're right though, he probably won't leave Napoli.

De Boer would be a risk as well, but at least we'd have a better chance of keeping Verts, would have a manager that values Eriksen extremely highly, and who has a big international reputation.

Ultimately I'm just glad we're not after Alan "I'll nut ya, ya bastard" Pardew, or Sammy Sadsack.

Yeah, I would say Pochettino is less of a risk than De Boer though in the sense that he's done well at two different clubs, and has premier league experience. De Boer on the other hand, though he has had a lot of success, still screams AVB to me, whereas Pochettino seems to be the midway point between an AVB and a Redknapp. I worry about things like Southampton having blown more winning positions than anyone else in the PL this year, but I'd probably be more worried about a one club man coming in from abroad. That said, Tuchel is my preference so ignore everything I've said

Vwbottom · May 14, 2014

Masamah said:
Because that only might happen. He could just turn out to be a very average manager that overachieved at Espanol and Southampton & who hasn't got the ability to win anything. He has not proven anything. We can't afford another shot in the dark appointment. You might be right. If so then great, but a risky appointment nonetheless.

Dej-avb-u

dave5150 · May 14, 2014

TaoistMonkey said:
Don't worry, when they are out of Nappies it gets a bit more affordable. Then they start asking for stuff

It won't be more affordable until mine is out of nursery!

I donated so I'm allowed to digress away from ITK, right?? No? Okay ermmm... that ITK was interesting but I would prefer FDB.

worcestersauce · May 14, 2014

Spurger King said:
Plenty of people realise this. They just recognise that there are better options out there.

There are others out there but are they really options?
Pochottino is a very good option, there are other options yes but are they better?
As I've said before, I'd be happy with him as I would with a couple of others so it's a bit of a win win situation.
Just wondering why an agent would know, would Pochottino have told the players or would Southampton tell him directly if he asked.

yankspurs · May 14, 2014

Hey, AtlantaYid, you do know that the man on the boat and the chairman both own the club, right? So the owners disagree.

loaderspurs · May 14, 2014

If you want a positive to take, southampton didn't lose every single game against the top 4 this season so that's an Improvement on us...

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