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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 20th August 2014

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AAspur

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MS may be Poch's main priority this window, but why the hell did we leave it so late to move on him then? Surely it would of been easier to get him in before the rest of the Premier League began cherry picking the Southampton team?? o_O

Door.....horse.....bolted :banghead:
Cos Levy loves a late deal ...we should be backing Poch staright from the off , after all he came in May and had plenty of time to identify targets ...but of course we will leave it til deadline day to buy players we dont want and sell players we wanted to keep ....
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Absolutely this. And why I don't believe in the DOF system, at least not for clubs like us who cannot afford to keep spending money correcting mistakes and adjusting the squad to fit whatever new system the current manager favours.

The manager moulds the team and therefore he will sometimes want certain players, even if it appears there are more talented players available or better value elsewhere. We saw it with Friedal, Gallas and Parker. All questioned at the time, but whose importance became apparent as time went on. We have to trust and back the manager as much as we can, otherwise there's no point appointing him in the first place.
I go back and forth on the DOF system - I do believe that the manager must have a say in the players coming in, or going out. But, I don't know that the manager is always the best person to determine which players fit the description. There are only so many hours in the day, and a coach who is preparing the current squad, has less time to adequately scout other players properly. The DOF, if he works with the coach/manager, is a great system.

Now, in this case, as it relates to Schneiderlin specifically, I'd say Pochettino is in the best position to know if he will fit. Plus the only ITK we have on the system these days, is that everyone is on the same page - Coach, Chairman, DOF, Scout, so when that happens, I like the way the system divides responsibilities.
 

cliff jones

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So we've had Itk that we are trying hard for both mm and ms, that's 40 mill or so plus wages. Also that we are trying to punt one or two to to Italy, most likely chiri and sandro. And a suggestion a slightly more popular player might have to be shipped especially if other outs don't come off, Townsend has been mentioned.

I could just about see Levy dropping the m&m money if we manage to shift the above mentioned,but otherwise no chance! One or the other if that.
 

sloth

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Unfortunately it's not that simple! Signing MS will not sort our problems at the back. We could sign Messi and still miss out on top 4 because our defence is not good enough. Yes MS is important to Poch's system but he wont make a difference if we're leaking silly goals. ITK says Poch thinks Centre Backs is our weakest position. Therefore sort the Centre backs and the team will gain more confidence going forward.

Lets hope we sign both players so everyone can be happy.

Poch seeing it as our weakest area isn't the same as saying it's weak, it could mean it's the area in which he's least happy with the depth available. In terms of players he feels could make the biggest difference to our season then it's perfectly reasonable to say I'd like more depth at CB, but my key signing is MS at CM.
 

rawhide

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A picture was posted on this forum i believe.

The official documents say that the US had the best 2022 bid. Just look at fifa. Qatar won the vote because they bribed the committee
Must have missed that, would be good to see, got the link?

Second point was exactly my point! Official docs are just the official version of the truth, not the whole truth.
 

worcestersauce

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Unfortunately it's not that simple! Signing MS will not sort our problems at the back. We could sign Messi and still miss out on top 4 because our defence is not good enough. Yes MS is important to Poch's system but he wont make a difference if we're leaking silly goals. ITK says Poch thinks Centre Backs is our weakest position. Therefore sort the Centre backs and the team will gain more confidence going forward.

Lets hope we sign both players so everyone can be happy.
I don't disagree Breezer, I'm all for strengthening our defence too.
 

Ycato01

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Look I'm over the ITK arse kissing on here, ban me if need be but to me any itk out there should be available to be discussed, I don't see any difference from this ITK to any other allowed on here, 95% of which proves to be false anyway!! See ya's COYS!!
 

codspur

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Well!!!!! And he seemed such a nice fellah as well.
lol and he seemed to miss the point of ITK discussion being based around people the mods feel are genuinely ITK not just someone called BarryITK caliming we have Messi and Neyma sewn up in a swap deal for Dawson and Rose!!!!
 

Insomnia

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Look I'm over the ITK arse kissing on here, ban me if need be but to me any itk out there should be available to be discussed, I don't see any difference from this ITK to any other allowed on here, 95% of which proves to be false anyway!! See ya's COYS!!
The pressure gets to us all my Son, I've found strong lager gets me through these windows. My younger bread bins smoke the spliff, either or my Son either or, you take your chances & do what you need to do to get through the window, nobody judges you UNTIL you diss the ITK then you open Pandora's box,good luck my fellow Spur, I hate it when I see one crack before my own eyes,only a few more days to go, COYS
 

DazzyWazzy55

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Aug 21, 2013
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Look I'm over the ITK arse kissing on here, ban me if need be but to me any itk out there should be available to be discussed, I don't see any difference from this ITK to any other allowed on here, 95% of which proves to be false anyway!! See ya's COYS!!

From my albeit limited understanding of the ITK system, I would say that the accepted ITKs on here have been in discussion with the mods and divulge their sources to them. The mods then pass this information on to the forum sometimes via the dreaded cryptic or mostly just as is.

This system protects the ITKs and sources, and also serves as a filtering system for most of the other shite that is out there being made up and regurgitated. Everything is passed on in good faith, and yes sometimes it turns out to be wrong or incorrect but at the time it was passed it's believed to be true, things are fluid and not set in stone.

Also historically there have been supposed ITKs who have form for attention seeking, Trolling, or just downright fabrication. These are filtered out of this thread by the mods, but feel free to post in the player threads if it makes you happy.

Just my 10p.
 

Norvern Munkey

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Jan 4, 2011
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Well that Escalated Quickly (y)

Yep!. Sadly we are all circling around the ITK like moths round a flame, its inevitable that some will get a little bit too close and sadly their delicate wings cannot withstand the temperatures and set on fire....Don't fear though they float down to earth and repair their sanity on a cocktail of crystal meth and toilet duck
 

Good Doctor M

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Cos Levy loves a late deal ...we should be backing Poch staright from the off , after all he came in May and had plenty of time to identify targets ...but of course we will leave it til deadline day to buy players we dont want and sell players we wanted to keep ....

LIKE EVERY OTHER PREMIER LEAGUE TEAM WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN BOTTOMLESS PIT OF CASH!!!
 

Good Doctor M

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Look I'm over the ITK arse kissing on here, ban me if need be but to me any itk out there should be available to be discussed, I don't see any difference from this ITK to any other allowed on here, 95% of which proves to be false anyway!! See ya's COYS!!

And he was never seen again.

THE END
 

Lufti

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lol and he seemed to miss the point of ITK discussion being based around people the mods feel are genuinely ITK not just someone called BarryITK caliming we have Messi and Neyma sewn up in a swap deal for Dawson and Rose!!!!

BarryITK said that?! Brb, headin down the bookies
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Poch seeing it as our weakest area isn't the same as saying it's weak, it could mean it's the area in which he's least happy with the depth available. In terms of players he feels could make the biggest difference to our season then it's perfectly reasonable to say I'd like more depth at CB, but my key signing is MS at CM.
I agree - I see MS, and the CM position in general, as the heartbeat of the team - when that position is working, the entire team looks better.

The defense could certainly use an upgrade, and I am hoping Musacchio comes in (I had him as more important than Schneiderlin until JJ indicated Pochettino is not satisfied with the current CM players), but controlling the midfield properly helps the entire team keep shape attacking and defending.
 
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