Did you see the punch up in the East Lower after the Besiktas goal? I thought some Turks got into our end as they looked middle eastern but after what you said i'm wondering now.
Tottenham v Besiktas Match Thread
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Did you see the punch up in the East Lower after the Besiktas goal? I thought some Turks got into our end as they looked middle eastern but after what you said i'm wondering now.
Graysonti
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Agree with this - massive over reaction.
But Cliriches is shit - I'm sold. I now want Dier in this role and a kid as right back and Chliriches never ever near our team again. Ever
Graysonti
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Really ? Nothing from me in Paxton lower. In fact club and fans are all a bit meh over this stage of the comp
Chimbo!
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It's still early days but I've got to say I'm pretty disappointed. Yes, we should be beating Besiktas at home but what's particularly bad is that we were outplayed by them, as we were by West Brom and Liverpool - that's three of our last 4 home games. The Forest game wasn't too convincing either.
I wouldn't put the blame on Pochettino because it takes time to get a side playing the way you want. The problem is that there is a lack of quality in our squad. We have decent players but they're all much-of-a-muchness. We'll finish and perform as we did last season for one simple reason - we have the same quality of players. Good managers and an effective philosophy will only take you so far. Relegation teams can finish mid-table with a good manager. But the gulf in quality between 5th/6th and 3rd is far greater. You need world-class players to bridge that gap. Our world-class players buggered off a while ago now.*
*excluding Lloris
I wouldn't put the blame on Pochettino because it takes time to get a side playing the way you want. The problem is that there is a lack of quality in our squad. We have decent players but they're all much-of-a-muchness. We'll finish and perform as we did last season for one simple reason - we have the same quality of players. Good managers and an effective philosophy will only take you so far. Relegation teams can finish mid-table with a good manager. But the gulf in quality between 5th/6th and 3rd is far greater. You need world-class players to bridge that gap. Our world-class players buggered off a while ago now.*
*excluding Lloris
prawnsandwich
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Besiktas should have beaten Arsenal. They are a great side.
I blame MoPo.
He is not treating this competition with respect.
UncleBuck
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Now, please don't take this as a dig fella but I'm getting a bit narked off with this whole 'system' bollocks.
I really don't see anything different to what we were doing under AVB, there is a 'high press' which we do in fits and starts but for the majority of a game we are too narrow and worry about the opposition as opposed to concentrating on our strengths.
It's almost like there is this belief that we have to play some half baked barca system in order to succeed as opposed to actually taking the bull by the horns and actually trying to hurt the opposition from kick off
joelstinton14
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Mixed performance tonight. I would have liked us to have more control on the game especially when one up. Saying that I though besiktas were very good and never gave us the time too.
I think slowly the players are understanding there roles and with more games they will learn when to press and when to contain. Whilst the ethic was there we did seem like headless chickens at times.
Defensively, chiriches especially we were shit tonight. Back four and the midfield didn't do enough to help shut up some pretty easy besiktas attacks.
Pluses, I thought Townsend played well. Played more as a team player. Stambouli improved as the game went on. Soldado and Kane great as well.
For the first time I'm actually depressed at the thought of losing lloris. World class.
I think slowly the players are understanding there roles and with more games they will learn when to press and when to contain. Whilst the ethic was there we did seem like headless chickens at times.
Defensively, chiriches especially we were shit tonight. Back four and the midfield didn't do enough to help shut up some pretty easy besiktas attacks.
Pluses, I thought Townsend played well. Played more as a team player. Stambouli improved as the game went on. Soldado and Kane great as well.
For the first time I'm actually depressed at the thought of losing lloris. World class.
eddiev14
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When we appointed Pocchetino we all said we'd give him time. He himself was quoted as saying that it can take 6-12 months to implement his system and get a squad he is happy with.
Personally I think tonight was a decent result for our change XI, Besiktas were a good team. However, those who want immediate results are fooling themselves - it won't happen overnight.
I know we all want immediate success but give him time!
Personally I think tonight was a decent result for our change XI, Besiktas were a good team. However, those who want immediate results are fooling themselves - it won't happen overnight.
I know we all want immediate success but give him time!
Roynie
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There were so many changes tonight from last Saturday to expect a smooth, coherent display was expecting too much. That said I thought we were strong and put in alot of enegry and effort, and after the first 15 minutes or so came back into the game well. Kane was excellent and took his goal really well.
The only bummer for me was that cretinous hand ball by Chiriches. I have now come to the opinion that we should let him go, he does play the ball very skillfully, but he just makes too many bad mistakes. I accept that he doesn't have a regular partner at the back, but the hand ball was a really bad, personal error of judgement in the heat of the moment. The characteristic can't be trained out of him. For me it's a case of sell!
The only bummer for me was that cretinous hand ball by Chiriches. I have now come to the opinion that we should let him go, he does play the ball very skillfully, but he just makes too many bad mistakes. I accept that he doesn't have a regular partner at the back, but the hand ball was a really bad, personal error of judgement in the heat of the moment. The characteristic can't be trained out of him. For me it's a case of sell!
jezz
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It's early days and our reserves should be beating CL teams.
This is what's wrong with our fan base.
Unrealistic expectations.
DFF
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This is the only area I'm not on the same page as the manager. Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen, Soldado has to be our preferred front 4 and given a run of games.
THFCSPURS19
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Hmmmm....
My mate detected 47.36% deflation, 23.7% support, 6.1% happiness, 6% pro-Enic vibes and 16.84% Anti-Enic feelings
Amo
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Fucking hell, those percentages actually add up to 100.
Are you Sherwood in disguise?
THFCSPURS19
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On Chiriches:
Hotspur Related @HotspurRelated 1m1 minute ago
Pochettino: "He made one mistake after another, but we need to accept it, because this is football. I am very disappointed."#THFC
Hotspur Related @HotspurRelated 1m1 minute ago
Pochettino: "He made one mistake after another, but we need to accept it, because this is football. I am very disappointed."#THFC
tomo
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And 100% Where the fuck is Modric
eddiev14
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Fucking hell. Eric Dier at CB next time perhaps?!
Glad he's not letting him get away with it. Chiriches needs to wake up, he's been awful this season.
Amo
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Ouch.
CrazyHeart
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So you're suggesting that we shouldn't play with a system?
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