THFCSPURS19
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Are you upset because I spammed your posts about Lamela? No need to try and insult.They way you go on on here I'm sure you watch matches like this
Levy Should have...!
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Black
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Im just saying and stop spamming my posts
mrlilywhite
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The problems with our club have long been seen by the fan that digs deeper than player performances, and Managers who seemingly become cannon fodder the moment they take on the "coveted" hot seat at White Hart Lane. The problems lie far deeper than than most were ever prepared to admit. Before Poch, there have been countless managers that have, for the most part been an absolute shower of shit, there have been a number of missed opportunities to continue any success that Redknapp gave us and both sides of the Redknapp era there have been an incredible turnover of players at our club, that have produced very little or have found themselves trying to slot into that "square peg, round hole" position.
Our club, which is pretty much been endorsed and accepted by most fans, is an incredibly well run club, financially, but what we have not done is completed the deck and produced the goods where it matters most. Someone was talking about FDB being a better fit for the job than Poch!? To be honest, no manager is going to come into the lane under ENIC and be a success. Daniel Levy really does not support his managers in the right way, he meddles with football politics and decisions in the wrong way and this has a far reaching consequence that has hurt this club for pretty much all of the ENIC years. Money has been invested, but at what cost? We sold Bale, and invested all of his money into players that had not been scouted with the intention of actually getting them to play in a system that would allow them any chance to flourish. Those players, imo have enough quality and potential talent to be a success at this club, but right now they are being ruined by poor choices that brought them here in the very first place. Levy's footballing decisions, have been very poor and our club will continue to be let down all the time ENIC have control. Their objective is still the same, as it was when they bought the club years ago.
No manager will succeed until we address the bigger issues at this club.
Our club, which is pretty much been endorsed and accepted by most fans, is an incredibly well run club, financially, but what we have not done is completed the deck and produced the goods where it matters most. Someone was talking about FDB being a better fit for the job than Poch!? To be honest, no manager is going to come into the lane under ENIC and be a success. Daniel Levy really does not support his managers in the right way, he meddles with football politics and decisions in the wrong way and this has a far reaching consequence that has hurt this club for pretty much all of the ENIC years. Money has been invested, but at what cost? We sold Bale, and invested all of his money into players that had not been scouted with the intention of actually getting them to play in a system that would allow them any chance to flourish. Those players, imo have enough quality and potential talent to be a success at this club, but right now they are being ruined by poor choices that brought them here in the very first place. Levy's footballing decisions, have been very poor and our club will continue to be let down all the time ENIC have control. Their objective is still the same, as it was when they bought the club years ago.
No manager will succeed until we address the bigger issues at this club.
Scottspur10
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Too much (yes there should be some) blame on Levy/baldini. Are you really telling me that the Newcastle team today, indeed the west brom team were superior to ours? This is down to tactics (or lack of them) and poor team selection. Poch's body language is looking worrying already. Was this not the man who kept telling us what an unbelievable squad we had? Don't like the constant manager turnaround but the players don't look like he is motivating them for me.
mrlilywhite
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The REAL problems go much further back than a few piss poor performances this season though mate. This has been coming pre-Redknapp era. We were lucky we had a few world class talents that gave us an opportunity to push on. The rest is history, the club failed to show it's ambition and we dipped our bale money hand into the football transfer lucky dip bag and come up with diddley squat. It's a chance you take, but you should do it without blind faith. 3 managers in 2 seasons is just a massive clue that we don't know what the fuck we are doing, either on the pitch or off it. ENIC, for their part have part succeeded in what they initially set out to do, the rest will come clear if the stadium comes to fruition. A big gamble for them now though, if Poch can't turn this around.....My guess, he won't, but the blame should not be at his feet if he does not.
That's his fault if its the case - he is accountable for who he charges with decision making and advising him when making decisions for our club
He just constantly seems to get everything wrong
Over complicates things, tries to be too clever and ends up failing the club
NEVILLEB
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You can't change another manager without replacing the man who picks them.
mrlilywhite
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BANG BLOODY ON!! I have gone past the point of giving a fuck how bloody well we have been run financially. Unless you are Chelsea or City, you need a good balance of both and ENIC have concerned themselves with money and making it for too bloody long without taking into account that success on the pitch really does matter if you want to sell this club for a huge profit, as clearly evidenced by Joe Lewis's valuation of the club. Our club is just a floating galleon with it's sails ripped apart, heading for the rocky coastline....
CheeseGromit
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All a bit too emotional
We have had some poor results but we have not played that many games. All those FDB will have to recognise that he would not have been able to go buying players left right and centre. He would have had to work with what is here now ( i understand though it is here say that this was one of the stumbling blocks with employing FDB)
The squad looks unbalanced we all seem to agree but we are probably only a player or two away from a pretty decent side.
We lost some really good players to top side but to those who said we have spent unwisely what top players could we have realistically purchased. Those that would have said yes to WHL after we had gone through the challenges of meeting massive fees wages and agents I really think there are lots who would not give us a second thought (unfortunately)
I hope we can make a couple of changes in January
We have had some poor results but we have not played that many games. All those FDB will have to recognise that he would not have been able to go buying players left right and centre. He would have had to work with what is here now ( i understand though it is here say that this was one of the stumbling blocks with employing FDB)
The squad looks unbalanced we all seem to agree but we are probably only a player or two away from a pretty decent side.
We lost some really good players to top side but to those who said we have spent unwisely what top players could we have realistically purchased. Those that would have said yes to WHL after we had gone through the challenges of meeting massive fees wages and agents I really think there are lots who would not give us a second thought (unfortunately)
I hope we can make a couple of changes in January
JamieSpursCommunityUser
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Just got back from WHL.
We were as good in the first half as we were bad in the second. At half time every was relaxed and confident of a win.
6 seconds in to the 2nd half and the place was in shock. Must have been the first time they got into our half! I think their fans were more shocked than we were!
Levy has made some poor decisions in recent years, but they have nothing to do with today.
Dier completely switched off for the 1st goal, after that his confidence fell to pieces. He stopped going forward, our balance disappeared. We became narrow and too easy to stop, and the crowd got on their backs.
4 players ducked out of tackling Sissoko leading up to the 2nd goal. Between the half way line and the cross. 4 players?!
We're mentally weak, just as Poch has said.
Kaboul did nothing as captain to sort Dier out. I watched him carefully, not one word to Dier or any of his team mates.
We were as good in the first half as we were bad in the second. At half time every was relaxed and confident of a win.
6 seconds in to the 2nd half and the place was in shock. Must have been the first time they got into our half! I think their fans were more shocked than we were!
Levy has made some poor decisions in recent years, but they have nothing to do with today.
Dier completely switched off for the 1st goal, after that his confidence fell to pieces. He stopped going forward, our balance disappeared. We became narrow and too easy to stop, and the crowd got on their backs.
4 players ducked out of tackling Sissoko leading up to the 2nd goal. Between the half way line and the cross. 4 players?!
We're mentally weak, just as Poch has said.
Kaboul did nothing as captain to sort Dier out. I watched him carefully, not one word to Dier or any of his team mates.
Barry Mead
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It's impossible to say with any certainty if De Boer would have done better, however it does seem a strange decision to give Poch the job ahead of De Boer given the comparative CV's
My gut feeling is that Levy saw Poch as far more malleable, not having any track record of achievements I think he probably felt he could get him to do his bidding with the players Levy wanted
Whilst I don't think Poch is the right man for the job it's hard to see Levy as the right man to be deciding who should be or the one who makes the ultimate decisions on transfer. Whilst it's essential that a chairman has control of the budget given to the manager really the manager should decide how and on who he spends the money to improve the team
My gut feeling is that Levy saw Poch as far more malleable, not having any track record of achievements I think he probably felt he could get him to do his bidding with the players Levy wanted
Whilst I don't think Poch is the right man for the job it's hard to see Levy as the right man to be deciding who should be or the one who makes the ultimate decisions on transfer. Whilst it's essential that a chairman has control of the budget given to the manager really the manager should decide how and on who he spends the money to improve the team
beats1
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TBF Poch had Pl experience and I think Levy got scared after Ramos
I agree about Poch being more malleable, but De Boer isn't one to disobey his superiors or try and pick fights.
De Boer is a character and I think we needed as we are a soft touch mentally
Barry Mead
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I think a Newcastle side lacking in confidence first half made us look better than we really were, we had a lot of possession but lacked any real cutting edge. Any decent team with some drive and desire should have put Newcvastle to the sword in first half so they couldn't come back. We didn't show enough sharpness or desire to really bury them and seemed happy enough to stroll a win
I guess Pardew was into his players half time and no doubt said look you already a goal down, you have nothing to lose by going for it. OF course a goal in six or seven seconds was great for them and gave then a great impetus but they were hardly a great side and still if we had any real leadership, character and drive we could have gotten a win
For me it's no good Poch saying we were mentally weak, he picks the players, he picked the captain, he dictates the tactics. We seem to be going backwards and after last season that's a concern
You are spot on about Kaboul, Dier is a young player by and large doing well covering in what is not his favoured role. He fucked up and lost concentration, he will occasionally he is young and inexperienced. But because he fucked up he lost it for a time. Kaboul should have been there put an arm round his shoulder said OK you fvcked up, we all do it occasionally, don't let it get to you stay focussed and lets try and get the lead back, but no nothing and worse still if he can't show leadership in giving some encouragement at least he should lead by example and yet he was hardly faultless himself so a bad day for Eunice today bot as captain and player
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THFCSPURS19
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Please explain. Do you have concrete proof that De Boer would turn us into world-beaters?Oh the irony of that statement
Trees
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Excellent post.
spurs9
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Thats no way to talk about our fans
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