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Tottenham Vs Leicester City: Match Thread

Sweetsman

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Because for the majority of the time we have been fucking shit and out played.

Just like to day, 2 lucky deflections and we got out played by the bottom of the league team.
But they lost in the end and we got three points. Why don't you say what you really think about MP? A lot of the time we have been playing very good passing football, but let's face it you're never going to accept that.
 

shelfboy68

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Its clear that there is much work to be done and that this manager needs time to sort out issues from the previous regime and some of his own.
Our season so far reminds me a bit of when brenda rodgers Took over at Liverpool from King kenny, there was bad habits a average players that needed shipping out to implement the system and tactics.
But like poch he too had a bad first season with goals being conceded and poor defeats, i think they finished ninth.
But then fast forward a season or two and they were simply superb and impressive last year falling a fraction short of champions.
At the moment we have gone down hill or off the boil in recent weeks losing CC final without offering up much at all, then blowing out of Europe plus we are far far to soft at the moment looking like we will concede every time a team goes forward.
If we are still like this next year then we have a right to dig him out until then Im not going to say too much and see what happens this summer, now i just want this season to end.
 

walton

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Our defence has been in decline since AVB left, with those two games vs Liverpool and City also really distorting the figures:

2012/13 Season:
We conceded 46 goals in 38 PL games under AVB (9 clean sheets)

2013/14 Season:
We conceded 21 goals in 16 PL games under AVB (7 clean sheets)
We conceded 30 goals in 22 PL games under Sherwood (7 clean sheets)

2014/15 Season so far:
We've conceded 45 goals in 30 PL games under Poch (6 clean sheets)


AVB: 67 conceded in 54 - 1.24 goals conceded per PL game; 16 clean sheets - 0.3 per game
TS: 21 conceded in 16 - 1.31 goals conceded per PL game; 7 clean sheets - 0.43 per game
MP: 45 conceded in 30 - 1.5 goals conceded per PL game; 6 clean sheets - 0.2 per game

Bloody heart AVB; I died a little when we ditched him...classy bastard with phenomenal facial hair.
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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An excellent central midfielder and excellent central defender are the 2 most pressing transfers we need to do in the summer. Until we have steel in those positions we'll struggle. We've barely put a team away this season. So many 1 goal wins.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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According to popular belief, Bale covered up AVB's cracks. Why is it not a common fact that Kane covers up for poch I wonder.
"He is lucky to have him" they say...

I thought Rose did really well today, Paulinho did well too, and the ref should retire.
 

Blackcanary

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An excellent central midfielder and excellent central defender are the 2 most pressing transfers we need to do in the summer. Until we have steel in those positions we'll struggle. We've barely put a team away this season. So many 1 goal wins.

A defensive coach is our most pressing transfer.;)
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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In follow up to my last post, I think only Lloris, Eriksen, Rose and Kane can be sure of starting positions next season on this years form. We could if it were possible, upgrade on the rest and probably need to in order to challenge top 4.
 

Dinghy

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In follow up to my last post, I think only Lloris, Eriksen, Rose and Kane can be sure of starting positions next season on this years form. We could if it were possible, upgrade on the rest and probably need to in order to challenge top 4.
I know what. Lets splurge another £100M+ on 7+ players???

:whistle:
 

Hugh DeMann

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But young players also need to be carefully managed to help their development - sometimes they benefit from being taken out the firing line. I don't really feel that making Nabs/Mason/Dier unchallenged starters is particularly good for them at this stage because it doesn't force them to self-reflect, improve or strive to improve weaknesses and games like today will (and last week) will seriously knock their confidence.

Yeah I know what you mean. The young players who make it to the top are usually managed in a clever way.

I suppose my gripe is about the fans who expect too much and then get on their backs when they don't have a perfect game. A few less mass sighs on mis-placed passes and the criticising of every mistake by the vocal minority is surely a better environment for young players to progress.

Rotation of some of the young players would be helpful though to alleviate some of the pressure.
 

shelfboy68

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We wont challenge top four for a while so we have to stop putting pressure on the team to do so.
This year we will probably finish seventh and next year maybe the same, dont forget in order to finish above some of the others we need one or two of them to Fuck up which is unlikely.
It was a real shame that when Liverpool were out of the top four for about 4/5 years we didnt really cement a place in it, but when you lose good players and replace with the stuff we have now was always going to have a knock on effect.
 

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I know what. Lets splurge another £100M+ on 7+ players???

:whistle:

Unless they come from our Academy?

I think we could add 1 or 2 top-class players, lose Kaboul, Walker, Vertonghen, Fazio, Capoue etc. and pad out the team with Academy players and be so much better off
 

spursbhoy67

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If I was scouting us for another team I would focus on:

1) Attacking our full backs - three up front with runners coming inside them - and keep three up top even when the FBs go forward
2) Putting balls in between Verts and whichever full back he is closest to because he does not want to attack or cover
3) Put a man in front of Kane and cut out his supply and make us go sideways
4) Set plays wide free kicks and corners with runners from deep - Spurs don't track.
5) Talking - no natural leader on the pitch so exploit their lack of an organiser.

Leicester did this to a degree today and by design and scored three decent goals as a result. United did it too us last week, but kept a clean sheet so took all three points.

West Ham and QPR both played to similar patterns but we picked up four points when none were deserved. That is now seven points out of nine in recent games when the opposition probably felt they deserved a lot more.

I can't figure out which Tottenham to judge MP on - the one which played Arsenal and Chelsea or the one which played today.
 

THFCSPURS19

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In follow up to my last post, I think only Lloris, Eriksen, Rose and Kane can be sure of starting positions next season on this years form. We could if it were possible, upgrade on the rest and probably need to in order to challenge top 4.
Bentaleb and maybe Vertonghen (as he's been very good in some games, and quite poor in others) as well IMO.
 

dondo

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I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more. We're making inevitable individual errors due to the amount of pressure we put ourselves under due to having our fullbacks horribly exposed due to poor work rate from our wide players coupled with Bentaleb and Mason being completely dominated week in week out.


How are mason and benteleb being dominated week in week out?
I agree their defensive work could better but we control most matches but get done every week with balls in behind our defence
 
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jezz

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Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm a bit worried about the Villa game.
WTF how does that make sense?
 

DaSpurs

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In follow up to my last post, I think only Lloris, Eriksen, Rose and Kane can be sure of starting positions next season on this years form. We could if it were possible, upgrade on the rest and probably need to in order to challenge top 4.

See this post is almost a contradiction in my eyes.

If you're talking about current season form, an one season being sufficient reason to replace a player, why are you not taking into consideration Rose's turnaround from the previous season? By your logic, he wouldn't even be on the pitch to display his turnaround. Is that not evidence enough that the problem is more to do with more than an individual level?
 
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