The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 5th June 2015

Spursidol · Jun 7, 2015

dovahkiin said:
atlanta yid:
No news is good news...... who knows
I have emailed my friend twice now about unrelated info and have dropped in questions about Spurs and our ties to an NFL team and I get nothing back in my emails.
Today I asked if Joe was ready to sell and move on and I got an email back almost straight away that said no chance is he going to sell only looking forward to the future.
Which I am happy about for my own personal gain but not sure what that means for the future of the club

If Joe Lewis thinks he can get the stadium built, the value of the club is increased a lot - and with a naming rights deal the increase in value will be a lot more than the cost of building it. So it would make no sense for Joe Lewis to sell now unless there was a stupendous deal put ion the table now, and we know from the CH discussions that Joe Lewis idea of a selling price is way more than an investment bank's.

jonnboy · Jun 7, 2015

Huddlestone22 said:
So I spoke to my friend regarding Townsend:

He says that Townsend wants to stay at Tottenham but isn't convinced he'll get played consistently. He'd prefer a loan move while his heart is still set on Tottenham but it's more than likely we'd push for a sale.

Apparently Spurs had an offer from qpr jan , didn't want to sell , maybe things have changed .

Everlasting Seconds · Jun 7, 2015

If I owned the majority of Spurs, and was looking at fetching a profit of multiple hundred millions of pounds, I too would be "only looking forward to the future"... :whistle:

Col_M · Jun 7, 2015

mark_2017 said:
Childish? I'll have you know I'm almost 28 and a half.

I supported Benjamins comment with a Like but your response did make me goggle.

Khilari · Jun 7, 2015

Spursidol said:
If Joe Lewis thinks he can get the stadium built, the value of the club is increased a lot - and with a naming rights deal the increase in value will be a lot more than the cost of building it. So it would make no sense for Joe Lewis to sell now unless there was a stupendous deal put ion the table now, and we know from the CH discussions that Joe Lewis idea of a selling price is way more than an investment bank's.

Seems from the numbers that even as it stands, THFC is a profitable asset. With the new stadium potentially looming, this is only going to get better. I don't see why JL would want to sell; he may have some interest as a 'fan' but I think he predominantly sees the club as part of his business portfolio. If someone were to offer silly money, I think he'd sell. But I don't think anyone will.

In London, with a fairly stable fan base I don't think there's huge potential for investors like there was at Man City or Chelsea. Unless a billionaire closet Spurs fan decides s/he wants to plough their life's work into the club appears.

Trix · Jun 7, 2015

Spursidol said:
If Joe Lewis thinks he can get the stadium built, the value of the club is increased a lot - and with a naming rights deal the increase in value will be a lot more than the cost of building it. So it would make no sense for Joe Lewis to sell now unless there was a stupendous deal put ion the table now, and we know from the CH discussions that Joe Lewis idea of a selling price is way more than an investment bank's.

If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion. Surely at his age and with his wealth, building the stadium and possibly bringing in the NFL would be more rewarding than to sell and just have the cash in the bank. As someone has already mentioned his family are also having more involvement in the club so perhaps one of them taking over was always the long term plan?

allatsea · Jun 7, 2015

thebenjamin said:
Who honestly cares less about finishing 5th?

4th best loser. Woo hoo. We won nothing, again. ENIC have delivered the least trophies to years in charge to THFC of any of the club's owners, ever.

They will be successful by their own criteria of making themselves an absolutely giant profit. But 1 trophy in 15 years and looking forward to another summer of Stamboulis and Fazios while hiding behind the convenient, non existent mirage of FFP. Shoot me.

Those of us that live in the real world realize that finishing fifth is actually an achievement when we don't have owners prepared to spend billions to buy or cheat their way to success. One trophy in fifteen years is hardly a surprise with the PL structured the way it is to ensure permanent CL football for four clubs. Every club that has broken through to a CL place has subsequently fallen back when their best players are cherry picked by the elite clubs.

Spursidol · Jun 7, 2015

TrickyVilla said:
If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion. Surely at his age and with his wealth, building the stadium and possibly bringing in the NFL would be more rewarding than to sell and just have the cash in the bank. As someone has already mentioned his family are also having more involvement in the club so perhaps one of them taking over was always the long term plan?

Think you mean Lewis doesn't want to sell rather than Levy (I've no info on either by the way).

Point I was trying to make is that unless Lewis was under pressure to sell (and with an estimated wealth its unlikely - and he doesn't need to put much (if any) money into Spurs to get the stadium built with an increased worth) there is no economic reason why he would do.

BTW what sort of involvement do Lewis family (daughter ?) and Levy junior have In the club - do they have a regular job ?

allatsea · Jun 7, 2015

Jospur said:
That's the point. AY's contact Is deliberately lying to him to head off unneeded talk of an imminent sale.

Pure guesswork on your part and hardly likely to be true with all the info that is starting out on COYS and then flowing out across the Spurs message boards.

Nanky_1988 · Jun 7, 2015

JJ ruled us out of Karol Linetty in his player thread saying:

Sorry but not sure why this story is running as its not us ????

TEESSIDE1 · Jun 7, 2015

Nanky_1988 said:
JJ ruled us out of Karol Linetty in his player thread saying:

Sorry but not sure why this story is running as its not us ????

Why would Spurs sign a young exciting player? madness

Jospur · Jun 7, 2015

allatsea said:
Pure guesswork on your part and hardly likely to be true with all the info that is starting out on COYS and then flowing out across the Spurs message boards.

Of course it's pure guesswork. But it's a very real scenario as far as I'm concerned. On the other hand nothing could be happening. But sometimes it's the subtle things that give away real intent - one being the swift denial after ignoring AY's previous questions on other Spurs matters.

So maybe - maybe not.

JAYSTAR · Jun 7, 2015

TrickyVilla said:
If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion. Surely at his age and with his wealth, building the stadium and possibly bringing in the NFL would be more rewarding than to sell and just have the cash in the bank. As someone has already mentioned his family are also having more involvement in the club so perhaps one of them taking over was always the long term plan?

I actually went through the whole thought process:
"Wow, never would have guessed Levy was 78, bald head sure, but he still looks young. Must be special oils the rich can afford to keep their skin looking young.."

Trix · Jun 7, 2015

Spursidol said:
Think you mean Lewis doesn't want to sell rather than Levy (I've no info on either by the way).

Point I was trying to make is that unless Lewis was under pressure to sell (and with an estimated wealth its unlikely - and he doesn't need to put much (if any) money into Spurs to get the stadium built with an increased worth) there is no economic reason why he would do.

BTW what sort of involvement do Lewis family (daughter ?) and Levy junior have In the club - do they have a regular job ?

No I don't, I mean Levy.

Spursidol · Jun 7, 2015

TrickyVilla said:
No I don't, I mean Levy.

'If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion.'

I'm confused, I thought you meant Lewis rather than Levy from the sentence above as Lewis is 78 rather than Levy.

LexingtonSpurs · Jun 7, 2015

TrickyVilla said:
No I don't, I mean Levy.

Noun/pronoun confusion

:stepsoffpedanticstool:

Trix · Jun 7, 2015

Spursidol said:
'If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion.'

I'm confused, I thought you meant Lewis rather than Levy from the sentence above as Lewis is 78 rather than Levy.

No mate, probably doesn't read very well tbh. I am told Levy doesn't want to sell at all, but lets face it Lewis get the final decision so was always a concern of mine. AY hearing that Lewis doesn't want to sell either is very very good news imo.

LexingtonSpurs · Jun 7, 2015

Spursidol said:
'If indeed he even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy doesn't and lets face it, he is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion.'

I'm confused, I thought you meant Lewis rather than Levy from the sentence above as Lewis is 78 rather than Levy.

Editor:

"If indeed Lewis even wants to sell. I have it on good authority that Levy does not want to sell. And, let's face it, Lewis is 78 and has an estimated wealth of over $4billion."

Jospur · Jun 7, 2015

TrickyVilla said:
No mate, probably doesn't read very well tbh. I am told Levy doesn't want to sell at all, but lets face it Lewis get the final decision so was always a concern of mine. AY hearing that Lewis doesn't want to sell either is very very good news imo.

If you can believe AY's contact - and he's not lying to keep a very sensitive matter under wraps.

nuttynoah · Jun 7, 2015

jonnboy said:
Apparently Spurs had an offer from qpr jan , didn't want to sell , maybe things have changed .

I hope Townsend has another good game today for England, might help us move him on.

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