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Lamela needs a run in the 10 position...

SpursSince1980

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I think what the lad needs more than anything is a solid, uninterrupted run in the side. I think a three consisting of Lamela, Son and Ericksen could be effective, if they can be fluid with their positions. The problem for Lamela is that his career with us has been in fits and starts. Pooch should pull him aside and say, 'Don't worry about being dropped. I'm gonna give you a long run in the first 11, just like I did for Nacer.' If he fails to grasp that opportunity, then we look elsewhere. But I'm sincerely hoping we can see some positive momentum for this guy, as clearly there is a ton of promise yet untapped.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Correct me if i'm wrong - as I didn't see the game - but didn't Lamela start at number 10 against Leicester and play shit?

I agree he needs a run in the team because he is our most creative player but I remember reading on here that he was a disaster against Leicester.


Correct from what i saw and from the time he was on the pitch.

What i cannot fathom is that if Lamela was the real deal why has Poch and his two predecessors not played him? One second half through ball should not make any player an automatic first team selection and i just cannot see him getting in front of Clinton, Son and Eriksen when they are all fit and ready to go. If ITK and the newspapers are to be believed then i thought a deal to sell him would have been done, but for the fact that the Bearinho transfer fell through?

If that was indeed the case then i think he will possibly go in January. Feel sorry for the lad but just not cut out for the PL, and if he cannot get a start after two seasons then i think his chances of playing every week now that we have just spent over thirty million on two players very doubtful.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Gbspurs says your a retard :wtf:
I think that's harsh personally
He is a no 10 even if gbspurs thinks I'm a retard for saying it.
He was a 10 in Argentina he was moved right because Totti is a legend at roma he was also touted by Totti as his natural successor (Totti is also a retard apparently ):)
Eriksen always plays well from the left better than central (retard):whistle:

He was moved right because he was off the pace as a number ten. He has just thirteen appearances for Argentina since 2011 scoring just twice so his International reputation is hardly worth a mention.

I think that if Poch, Sherwood, AVB and Martino recognise that he's no number ten then chances are that one of them (by luck or judgement) is correct in that assumption, but all four cannot be wrong.
 
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Bulletspur

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Correct, he was extremely poor against Leicester.

Personally I don't think one good pass equates to being given a run as our number 10. He also got skinned for pace by Kaboul when Sunderland nearly equalised. Still the sublime to the ridiculous from Lamela yesterday.

Would rather see Pritchard given serious minutes as I fear these glimmers of hope from Lamela are exactly that.
Bollocks. The pass for the goal was only one of a few that he did in the limited time he came on, which transformed the game. Trust a hater to have blinkered vision or selective memory.
 

Kspur

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Or chadli or dembele - both of whom have played their best games on that position IMO

Dembele when it's a tough away game Lamela for the rest imho. I like Chadli but would use him after those 3 there (Eriksen being the other)
 

double0

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People might have the wrong impression of Lamela what sort of player is he.

I think some can't work out what he is, he isn't a Ronaldo Naymir or Bale type but more a hybrid sort of Silva De Brunyne Fabregas James Rodriguez with a bit of Latin American fire/work rate.

Im personally happy we kept him because he is a good technical player, I'd much rather Lamela in the team to say over Dembele and if Eriksen isn't playing then Lamela is a most.

I also feel we have some really creative players in Lamela Eriksen Chadli Pritchard Onomah then players that assist the assist players such as Mason Bentaleb Carroll... We have good options in our squad.
 

jezz

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He was moved right because he was off the pace as a number ten. He has just thirteen appearances for Argentina since 2011 scoring just twice so his International reputation is hardly worth a mention.

I think that if Poch, Sherwood, AVB and Martino recognise that he's no number ten then chances are that one of them (by luck or judgement) is correct in that assumption, but all four cannot be wrong.
Played no 10 in his last game for Argentina and played well.
Sherwood fcuk off Gaz he was injured under him.
Under AVB the front 3 interchanged. So your wrong again.
Argentina who's there no. 10 o yeah Messi the best player in world.
You really don't know what your talking about
 

jezz

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Hmmm... It's always the same with Lamela. One assist here, a nice through ball there - some hope - but then for the next three games he doesn't show up.

Bottom line, he needs to earn the chance to be a regular in our first team by showing that he can consistently turn up and take control of a game, and be a match winner - not just with a cameo but a string of good performances.

Eriksen did this so many times last season, before he burnt out like the rest of our team.

I think he's technically capable - he's got a lovely touch and an eye for a pass - but I'm unsure whether he's got the mentality to grab a game by the scruff of the neck.

He has to adapt to getting no space and the shit kicked out of him, which is what most teams do to nullify him. Against Leicester, Drinkwater (I think that was the guy's name) just got nice and tight, didn't let him have any space to turn and constantly forced him onto his unnatural right foot.

To date, he's only really been effective when he's come on against tiring opposition (i.e. Sunderland on Saturday and Newcastle last season) or started versus a team that plays open and offers us space (like Burnley and Astana did at WHL last season)

The reason why Eriksen is a good #10 is that he is great at turning off either shoulder, which is typical of the Ajax playmakers. It makes him a lot harder to man mark.

Lamela is way more predictable.

Would definitely play him against Palace though. With Eriksen nearing a return it would be a good test of Lamela's character and also to see if he can cope against a better, more intense side than Sunderland.
Care to mention these 1 in 3 runs your on about?
 

ajspurs

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I don't think we should be expecting too much of him now though, after just one bright substitute appearance and a good assist. Before the Sunderland game I don't think most would have massively cared if he was still with us or not. We've seen it with Townsend quite a few times, to look bright coming on one week only to start the next game and play poorly. Lets be honest people will be right on his back again if he plays poorly against Palace. In fairness to both Townsend and Lamela they both probably haven't had the run of games that their games would benefit from.

We would need to try and get him in advanced central positions as much as possible. He is still probably the only player who can play those piercing through balls in our team, plus he has a very good shot on him which he for some reason seems scared to use, that really needs to change too.
 

cliff jones

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Good to see quite a few believe theres life in this dog yet. And AT too.

We need competition for places and there are plenty of games to go round. My problem is i feel hes easy to work out. Apart from the give you the eyes then reverse pass to the right what else is in the locker? Give him a go by all means but a right to a run in the team no way. He has to earn that including by getting himself on the sheet too. If thecchance does happen to fall on his right side then hes only going to predictably turn back onto his left. Seen this before? Been on mars for two years then.

Mason deserves the lions share of the credit for the three points, especially making such a superb run from the midfield two, son will make good darting runs too but the others all seem to want it to feet or just give it to hk and watch him shoot.
 

fletch82

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He was moved right because he was off the pace as a number ten. He has just thirteen appearances for Argentina since 2011 scoring just twice so his International reputation is hardly worth a mention.

I think that if Poch, Sherwood, AVB and Martino recognise that he's no number ten then chances are that one of them (by luck or judgement) is correct in that assumption, but all four cannot be wrong.

Off the pace haha really ?
A manager dropping Totti from the roma side is basically sacking himself or risking assassination.
1. Totti is a roma legend amongst the fans 2. He is actually pretty darn good 3. lamela was a new youngster do you really believe that a manager would have dropped the club icon ?
Sorry mate you have that completely wrong.
Avb was in full sulk mode by then but he played him ,Sherwood was to busy self promoting himself as the new redknapp to the press and insulting the lad for being injured.
He probably gets less playing time under poch because of all the haters who can't accept that lamela isn't Gareth bale but he is a no 10 was a no 10 and will continue to be a no 10
Just as an also when I said he was a no 10 in Argentina I meant for his club not internationally
 

CowInAComa

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Many on here have wanted to see Lamela get a run in the ten position. Its never happened, so I suspect the 'clamour' for it died ages ago. You don't keep picking an option if you know its unlikely they'll start in that position. At least I don't anyway.

The point is he has shown quality in that position previously. If you're not aware of such that's your problem.

To be fair Mr Pink I'm not really picking a hole in your opinion, you tend to be one of the more consistent considered posters.

It's actually the hypocrisy of everyone now veering completely to the other extreme with the lad based on one good cameo.

You would have to admit that had you run this thread the day before the Sunderland game you would have been shot down by all and sundry. Similarly Townsend is not the joke option anymore after beating his man a couple of times.

In reality, lamela and Townsend have just reminded us all in our rush to promote and discard squad members on a pass by pass basis that almost everyone in our squad can at their best provide solid options for us over the season.

Personally, I don't think I could justify lamela taking the no10 role until he has repeated the feat with a degree of consistency. For me no. 10 belongs to eriksen
 

carpediem1906

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Personally I feel we need one of Eriksen/Lamela/Pritchard on the pitch and one of Son/Njie (assuming he makes runs behind the defence) on the pitch. Then, depending on the opposition and form, Chadli or Townsend taking up the other spot. In an ideal world, that 3rd spot would be taking up by a player that provides width and can take on players (Townsend when on form) but Chadli's ability to expose pockets of space can be beneficial, providing the other 2 AMs aren't playing too narrow.

I don't like the idea of Eriksen or Lamela either on the left or right, as they have shown time and again they don't suit in in the PL. Alli for me isn't a AM, he should be an option for CM but I just can't see any combo of Mason, Bentaleb & Alli working at the moment, until improvement is seen in their reading of the game, positioning and understanding of who goes forward and when etc.

I agree with the first part of this post.

against teams that can afford us space & time

3 behind kane
LW - one of Chadli / Eriksen / Townsend
AM - one of Lamela / Alli / Pritchard
RW - one of Son / Njie

against teams that don't, i.e. very strong spine and close down fast and well

3 behind kane
LW - Chadli
AM - Eriksen
RW - Son
 

thelak

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People might have the wrong impression of Lamela what sort of player is he.

I think some can't work out what he is, he isn't a Ronaldo Naymir or Bale type but more a hybrid sort of Silva De Brunyne Fabregas James Rodriguez with a bit of Latin American fire/work rate.

Im personally happy we kept him because he is a good technical player, I'd much rather Lamela in the team to say over Dembele and if Eriksen isn't playing then Lamela is a most.

I also feel we have some really creative players in Lamela Eriksen Chadli Pritchard Onomah then players that assist the assist players such as Mason Bentaleb Carroll... We have good options in our squad.
 

thelak

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a hybrid sort of Silva De Brunyne Fabregas James Rodriguez with a bit of Latin American fire/work rate.


Are you for real?!
 

Mr Pink

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To be fair Mr Pink I'm not really picking a hole in your opinion, you tend to be one of the more consistent considered posters.

It's actually the hypocrisy of everyone now veering completely to the other extreme with the lad based on one good cameo.

You would have to admit that had you run this thread the day before the Sunderland game you would have been shot down by all and sundry. Similarly Townsend is not the joke option anymore after beating his man a couple of times.

In reality, lamela and Townsend have just reminded us all in our rush to promote and discard squad members on a pass by pass basis that almost everyone in our squad can at their best provide solid options for us over the season.

Personally, I don't think I could justify lamela taking the no10 role until he has repeated the feat with a degree of consistency. For me no. 10 belongs to eriksen

Fair enough and you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

I agree that the timing of making such a statement was obviously going to be well received, football will always be a fickle business. But, for me at least, this isn't something I've decided to state just because of one good cameo from the bench. I said it numerous times last season.

We paid a lot of money for this kid, I just think we should give him a go in the position he's clearly looked best in. It doesn't even have to be a case of moving Eriksen to the left, although that's what I would do, but even just rotating them or bringing Lamela on in that position later on in games. He's more creative than Eriksen although there's no denying the latter's goal threat.

Its purely a case of playing him in his best position and I don't want to see him shunted out wide again for us.

As for Townsend, I've always been pretty critical regarding his game. But he showed a greater appreciation for the needs of the team on Sunday, something I've seen very little of to date. If that's a sign of things to come its encouraging. Not getting carried away with that though.
 

Mullers

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If Lamela is to play as a number 10, he has to earn it, he can't just be given a run of games because he is an expensive player.
 

Shea

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I think all the "I told you so" bs needs to stop on this forum in regards to Lamela

It's almost as if some fans are so caught up in their side of the debate on here that they want him to do poorly in order to be right. This is not helped by fans on the opposite side of the fence being dicks about every positive thing he ever does and calling those who they debate with "idiots" etc - it only perpetuates the polarisation and makes people take harder stances in the position on the debate

We can all agree he's a talented player - I don't think anyone doubts that

We can all agree he's been disappointing so far - of course some think this more than others which is fine

We all seem to agree he looks unsuited physically to our league, when played at RWF anyway but we should all be encouraged that he's shown potential as a No.10. There's no need to have the silly back and forth arguments now the window is closed, whether or not he should be sold is irrelevant now. He;s with us and it's in everyone's best interest that he does well for the club

No we shouldn't get carried away by one decent 1/4 of a match cameo, and yes there were still aspects of poor play in that performance. It is however ridiculous to dismiss what he and indeed Townsend did against Sunderland because when all is set and done their respective performances were key to us winning the game

I really think we should drop the arguments at this point and stop the agenda's (both positive and negative) because I'm pretty sure all our opinions are actually much closer together than the nature of debate and desire to be right and say I told you so make it seem. We all know he has talent, we all know he's under performed and we all want him to do well, don't we?
 

THOWIG

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Having watched Townsend and Mahrez at the weekend I think you need to be direct if you play as a right forward. Lamela's different, he likes to to cut in and his work rate always impresses me. I actually think he'd work well alongside Kane.
 
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