Top four finish?

nicdic said:

We were much better than Liverpool were in the game against us, we didn't win, no, but we were the better team. And Liverpool played Origi up front who is most definitely a recognised striker. I also thought the managers first game in charge was meant to be a negative for us, now it's not reason for us finding them tougher than we may otherwise have done?

Liverpool were poor on Saturday. Chelsea were worse, but doesn't mean Liverpool were good. They were incredibly sloppy all game, and were it not for Coutinho deciding to show up just before half time I don't think they'd have won the game. Rather than buy into the press coverage, watch the game with your own eyes. Klopp has done nothing yet to show we should be scared. I said at the beginning of the season that Liverpool would have problems. They've got one of the most unbalanced squads I've ever seen for a "top" side, with little to no cohesion in terms of playing style. Klopp is a great coach, he showed that at Dortmund, but he's got a real job on his hands to turn that mishmash squad into top 4 contenders. It's going to take at least til next season before we really see what they're gonna be like, and even then, with the amount of players I expect them to turnover in the next two windows next season could be one of transition too.

Rather than just see the name Klopp and wet my pants, I'll look at the whole picture. We're 18 months ahead of them, we've a settled and young squad that buys into the coach's philosophy. I much prefer our position.

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Mr Pink said:

Agree. And just to add to that, Liverpool have, what I would call, three real quality players in Coutinho, Sturridge and Benteke. The problem they have is they can't depend on the latter two to be fit consistently. If those three were playing regularly, week in week out, they'd have a very good attack but its a moot point because they don't.

The rest of their squad is incredibly underwhelming IMO, so I expect Klopp to make consirable changes over the next couple of windows like you've alluded to - which adds more time to the equation.

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CowInAComa said:

two spots up for grabs with us, Liverpool and Utd being the most likely contenders for them

why the fuck not eh?

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Mr Pink said:

United look ridiculously ordinary at times too.

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nicdic said:

We were much better than Liverpool were in the game against us, we didn't win, no, but we were the better team. And Liverpool played Origi up front who is most definitely a recognised striker. I also thought the managers first game in charge was meant to be a negative for us, now it's not reason for us finding them tougher than we may otherwise have done?

Liverpool were poor on Saturday. Chelsea were worse, but doesn't mean Liverpool were good. They were incredibly sloppy all game, and were it not for Coutinho deciding to show up just before half time I don't think they'd have won the game. Rather than buy into the press coverage, watch the game with your own eyes. Klopp has done nothing yet to show we should be scared. I said at the beginning of the season that Liverpool would have problems. They've got one of the most unbalanced squads I've ever seen for a "top" side, with little to no cohesion in terms of playing style. Klopp is a great coach, he showed that at Dortmund, but he's got a real job on his hands to turn that mishmash squad into top 4 contenders. It's going to take at least til next season before we really see what they're gonna be like, and even then, with the amount of players I expect them to turnover in the next two windows next season could be one of transition too.

Rather than just see the name Klopp and wet my pants, I'll look at the whole picture. We're 18 months ahead of them, we've a settled and young squad that buys into the coach's philosophy. I much prefer our position.

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King of Otters said:

Ironic, as that's exactly what you're doing. Instead of going overboard with the press and the RAWKites with the idea that world domination looms, you've gone in the opposite direction and convinced yourself that they're no threat, and that they've been poor since he took over, which, in my opinion, is incorrect. If we won 3-1 at the Bridge, and made Chelsea look ordinary in the process, you can bet your life you wouldn't be on here saying how 'poor' we were, and that the victory was due only to the fact that Chelsea were poorer. I believe in credit where its due, they weren't Brazil 1970, but they controlled the game from around 30 mins onwards, and scored three goals without ever looking like they were going to lose, or even draw.

They're not title challengers, as a minority in the media suggested after the game, but nor are they in any way 'poor'. They have a handful of very good players, a charismatic and tactically astute manager, and the experience of challenging the top 6-4 year in year out.

With the exception of the 'charismatic' manager, the above could equally apply to ourselves. We have big potential, but at this moment in time we're very much a work in progress. You think we're way ahead of Liverpool, but I just don't see it. I could definitely see us finishing above them, but I'm by no means confident about it. How anyone could be confident of finishing above them, or any of our direct competitors is a mystery to me. We've had a decent start to the season, that's it. I've seen better Spurs sides than this fail to make the top 4, so experience teaches me not to get carried away.

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King of Otters said:

Ironic, as that's exactly what you're doing. Instead of going overboard with the press and the RAWKites with the idea that world domination looms, you've gone in the opposite direction and convinced yourself that they're no threat, and that they've been poor since he took over, which, in my opinion, is incorrect. If we won 3-1 at the Bridge, and made Chelsea look ordinary in the process, you can bet your life you wouldn't be on here saying how 'poor' we were, and that the victory was due only to the fact that Chelsea were poorer. I believe in credit where its due, they weren't Brazil 1970, but they controlled the game from around 30 mins onwards, and scored three goals without ever looking like they were going to lose, or even draw.

They're not title challengers, as a minority in the media suggested after the game, but nor are they in any way 'poor'. They have a handful of very good players, a charismatic and tactically astute manager, and the experience of challenging the top 6-4 year in year out.

With the exception of the 'charismatic' manager, the above could equally apply to ourselves. We have big potential, but at this moment in time we're very much a work in progress. You think we're way ahead of Liverpool, but I just don't see it. I could definitely see us finishing above them, but I'm by no means confident about it. How anyone could be confident of finishing above them, or any of our direct competitors is a mystery to me. We've had a decent start to the season, that's it. I've seen better Spurs sides than this fail to make the top 4, so experience teaches me not to get carried away.

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Sir Henry said:

Ask me at the end of November. Right now were in a good position but November is a horrible month.

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dudu said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ottenham-haven-t-better-chance-make-four.html

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Shanks said:

This is a good article, honestly, I'm hoping to see less of them.

I quite like the fact that no-one is talking about us, and that fans are expecting their teams to beat us.

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Shanks said:

This is a good article, honestly, I'm hoping to see less of them.

I quite like the fact that no-one is talking about us, and that fans are expecting their teams to beat us.

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