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kitchen

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Well, fair play to the Arsenal fan saying we're in the mix, especially in front of all the other Arsenal fans...
But we won't.

A title winning team takes the three points and ultimately all these draws from winning positions is what will cost us a genuine chance. Its nice to even be talking about it, but the season isn't even half way yet, so I am certainly not getting carried away over anything.

All being said, we are still 5 points off the top and thus remain one bad weekend away from being 8points adrift and so on. THis was our chance to close the gap and make teams really look over their shoulders. We didn't quite take it and despite the positives I really feel that this is an opportunity missed and by the looks of it, so do the players.

This.

We could go on a lengthy unbeaten run but it's no use unless we take 3 points rather than 1 from the majority of games. We still lack that killer instinct. It will come with time though, and as this team grow together we'll learn to kill teams off.

What dawned on me reading these comments from other fans and a bit of positivity for once is that we've not actually been outplayed by anyone. All season.

Not once have we gone away thinking we got the draw but were lucky not to lose, it's always we were unlucky not to win. Even against utd, we got the loss but deserved a draw I felt. We've been the better team in nearly every game we played, and that makes me proud.
 

tdk101

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This.

We could go on a lengthy unbeaten run but it's no use unless we take 3 points rather than 1 from the majority of games. We still lack that killer instinct. It will come with time though, and as this team grow together we'll learn to kill teams off.

What dawned on me reading these comments from other fans and a bit of positivity for once is that we've not actually been outplayed by anyone. All season.

Not once have we gone away thinking we got the draw but were lucky not to lose, it's always we were unlucky not to win. Even against utd, we got the loss but deserved a draw I felt. We've been the better team in nearly every game we played, and that makes me proud.
Ironically Sunderland game was the one I think we barely deserved 1, let alone 3 pts.
 

jakuba

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Ironically Sunderland game was the one I think we barely deserved 1, let alone 3 pts.
Especially after them being the only team I feel we dominated home and away last season. Christ that means we're surely going to lose at the lane to them this season.
 

King of Otters

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From the comments section in the Daily Mail (sorry) match report

El_Pibe, Santa Marta, Colombia, 20 hours ago

Spurs are a proud English club who promote English youth. They were unlucky not to beat Arsenal at the Emirates. They should finish top 4. Pibe has spoken. #pibe.


El_Pibe, Santa Marta, Colombia, 20 hours ago

And people said Kane was a 1 season wonder... Hahaha. Those people are just jealous that their clubs don't produce talent like Kane and Dier. And Alli has the tools at Spurs to become world class. Pibe has spoken. #pibe.


All hail #pibe
 

barry

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From the comments section in the Daily Mail (sorry) match report

El_Pibe, Santa Marta, Colombia, 20 hours ago

Spurs are a proud English club who promote English youth. They were unlucky not to beat Arsenal at the Emirates. They should finish top 4. Pibe has spoken. #pibe.


El_Pibe, Santa Marta, Colombia, 20 hours ago

And people said Kane was a 1 season wonder... Hahaha. Those people are just jealous that their clubs don't produce talent like Kane and Dier. And Alli has the tools at Spurs to become world class. Pibe has spoken. #pibe.


All hail #pibe

Fucking love Valderama
 

Lighty64

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what I fail to understand is Wenger mentioned they have 10 players in the treatment room, and the gooner fans are moaning about their injury list along with having a tough schedule

on physioroom.com they only have 7 listed

and their schedule = 3 games in 8days from Swansea to Bayern over 96hrs from finishing to starting the next fixture, from Bayern to us over 80hrs

we played 3 games in 6days with less than 72 hrs from Villa to Anderlect and less than 72hrs before playing them. no wonder we tired the last 15mins.
 

Jgplk1

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A lot of talk on redcafe about buying Kane and who has more talent, him or martial.

  1. One season wonder they said.

  2. Yesterday at 16:37

    Mister_StubbsFull Member
    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.

  3. Yesterday at 16:38

    UzzFull Member
    He's very endearing.

  4. Yesterday at 16:40

    AmadaeusOoh, rock me!

    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.
    It takes a lot of balls to admit you were wrong. You were not the only one that called Kane a one season wonder on here. Nevertheless, it looks like he is finding form and Martial still have a long way to have a season as comparable as his last term.

  5. Yesterday at 16:44

    K2KFull Member

    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.
    I'm another that is looking rather foolish..Class finish that was, perhaps should be England's no. 1

  6. Yesterday at 16:50

    charlenefanFar less insightful than the other Charley
    Sign him up in the summer, whatever the cost

  7. Yesterday at 16:55

    SpockFull Member

    Sign him up in the summer, whatever the cost
    Agreed, Kane would be a fantastic buy but if we do surely it would have to be the end of Rooney at OT. But with Roo's 300k/week contract what club would buy him?

  8. Yesterday at 16:58

    RaeesFull Member
    You can't sign Kane if you have Martial. It would hinder Martials progress.

  9. Yesterday at 17:00

    Rowemgently, down the stream
    The Kane Train is back on track!

    I think he will continue to prove people wrong who scoff at him. Whether or not he will ever be a world class striker is yet to be seen but he is certainly more than an over - hyped kid who went on a purple patch of form, as some people are intent on pidgeon-holing him as.

  10. Yesterday at 17:03

    KagFull Member
    I'm not sure what the doubters were watching, to be honest. Kane has a lot of the necessities needed to play well up top and a little drought was never going to change that.

    I'd still like to see the club bring him in next summer.

  11. Yesterday at 17:03

    AdisaFull Member
    If it means Martial on the wings then NO. As much as I like him. But I think LVG will love him as the second striker. In that case, he will retire Rooney.

  12. Yesterday at 17:04

    BrwnedHave you ever been in love before?

    You can't sign Kane if you have Martial. It would hinder Martials progress.
    I think they can play together and take turns dropping deep like Rooney and Martial have done in the last two matches. He certainly isn't out of place dropping deep and linking up the play. Plus he offers that aerial threat and hold up play that Fellaini offers us along with a whole lot more on top of that.

  13. Yesterday at 17:04

    bosnian_redWorst scout to ever exist
    Marital is more talented then Kane. If we get Kane then we'd probably play Martial on the left (left of a front 3 could work brilliantly though). But then what do you do with Memphis? See if he develops as a right sided player? Or we just use a 4-4-2 type formation for most games with Kane and Martial up top, and in the tough games, switch to a 4-3-3 with Martial on a wing.​
  14. Yesterday at 17:05

    KagFull Member

    If it means Martial on the wings then NO. As much as I like him. But I think LVG will love him as the second striker. In that case, he will retire Rooney.
    I think Kane and Martial could easily drift between one another. As you imply, Kane is more than capable of dropping off the main forward​
  15. Yesterday at 17:07

    RaeesFull Member

    I think they can play together and take turns dropping deep like Rooney and Martial have done in the last two matches. He certainly isn't out of place dropping deep and linking up the play. Plus he offers that aerial threat and hold up play that Fellaini offers us along with a whole lot more on top of that.
    I have no doubt they could do well in a 442 together but ideally you want the side to become a 433 side like the majority of top teams in Europe. Martial has the potential to be the best number 9 in the world.. Kane is merely a top class premier league striker who I don't think has the ability that Martial potentially could get to.

    I'd focus on strengthening other areas of the side rather than get ourselves into a difficult situation where we might have to drop a top striker for key games. It wouldn't be fair on either of them.​
  16. Yesterday at 17:09

    2 Man MidfieldModern Woman
    No thanks. Would cost way too much, and we need Martial leading the line. Would rather invest in a proper wide forward/winger.​
  17. Yesterday at 17:11

    KagFull Member

    No thanks. Would cost way too much, and we need Martial leading the line. Would rather invest in a proper wide forward/winger.
    I think we need to look at bringing in both.​
  18. Yesterday at 17:11

    AmadaeusOoh, rock me!

    Marital is more talented then Kane. If we get Kane then we'd probably play Martial on the left (left of a front 3 could work brilliantly though). But then what do you do with Memphis? See if he develops as a right sided player? Or we just use a 4-4-2 type formation for most games with Kane and Martial up top, and in the tough games, switch to a 4-3-3 with Martial on a wing.
    Bring back the old days and give 4-4-2 a shot or a more modern 4-2-2-2

    De Gea
    Darmien - Smalling - Blind - Shaw
    Lingard/Mata - Schneiderlin - Schweinstiger - Flipe Anderson
    Kane - Martial​
  19. Yesterday at 17:13

    NinjaFletchFull Member
    I don't really see the point of signing him.

    I'm sure he'd do alright, but for the money we can and should be looking at world class tier talent, not just very good.​
  20. Yesterday at 17:22

    bosnian_redWorst scout to ever exist

    Bring back the old days and give 4-4-2 a shot or a more modern 4-2-2-2

    De Gea
    Darmien - Smalling - Blind - Shaw
    Lingard/Mata - Schneiderlin - Schweinstiger - Flipe Anderson
    Kane - Martial
    At first I thought we didn't need him at all but thinking about it, it makes sense. Martial can work well either as the lone man or with a partner, same with Kane. They can both take turns to drop deep and act as a 10, and in tough games, we switch to a 4-3-3 and put Martial on the wing as a wide forwrad where he's just as good as he is up top probably (just needs to improve his crossing really). We get 2 reliable goalscorers in the team and if one gets on a drought, we have the other, same if one gets injured.​
  21. Yesterday at 17:26

    KagFull Member

    At first I thought we didn't need him at all but thinking about it, it makes sense. Martial can work well either as the lone man or with a partner, same with Kane. They can both take turns to drop deep and act as a 10, and in tough games, we switch to a 4-3-3 and put Martial on the wing as a wide forwrad where he's just as good as he is up top probably (just needs to improve his crossing really). We get 2 reliable goalscorers in the team and if one gets on a drought, we have the other, same if one gets injured.
    Exactly. Two strikers can work when they're strikers like Kane and Martial. Both lads can hold it up, Martial can dribble, Kane has an eye for a pass and can knock one in from distance. What one lacks the other has in abundance and if we're looking for a couple of attackers I'd be looking to Kane as one of them.​
  22. Yesterday at 17:27

    golden_blunderDreaming of a return to 4-4-2
    All aboard!

    Form is temporary, class is permanent

    This boy is undeniably class​
 

rossdapep

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what I fail to understand is Wenger mentioned they have 10 players in the treatment room, and the gooner fans are moaning about their injury list along with having a tough schedule

on physioroom.com they only have 7 listed

and their schedule = 3 games in 8days from Swansea to Bayern over 96hrs from finishing to starting the next fixture, from Bayern to us over 80hrs

we played 3 games in 6days with less than 72 hrs from Villa to Anderlect and less than 72hrs before playing them. no wonder we tired the last 15mins.
It's just typical of them. An excuse, a whinge, an excuse, a whinge, an excuse ....... it started with Wenger all them years ago and seems to be the mindset from manager to fans now. We have been showing them a thing or two about preparation since poch came in, which if they weren't too arrogant to realise would likely help them lift the prem trophy.
 

Lufti

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Hey @DazzaAFC_ it's called Photoshop, mate. Bloddy hell. Is this the stone age or something?

What do you mean, he's clearly mastered that software..

CTYfdYIXAAAZ2SO.jpg:large
 

Jgplk1

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Also a fair bit of love for Pochettino

  1. Yea perhaps. Tottenham was perhaps an ideal managerial position for him. The gap between Southampton and Tottenham is not as huge as the gap between Manchester United and Southampton. Perhaps, if he continues to impress, he may take over lvg and bring Kane with him :lol:.

  2. Yesterday at 16:38

    AmadaeusOoh, rock me!
    I am a big fan of his and I would love him here at United. This season seems like a great chance to have Tottenham break into the top four.

  3. Yesterday at 16:48

    Oo0AahCantonaFull Member
    He just does management the right way. Gives local talent a chance and builds from the foundation up. tactically astute and without drama.

  4. Yesterday at 16:49

    horsechokerFull Member
    If he's still doing well with Tottenham at the end of next season would anyone consider him for United manager?

  5. Yesterday at 16:54

    BrwnedHave you ever been in love before?
    He should stay at Spurs until he feels he's taken them as far as he can rather than as soon as a big club comes calling. He's building a very competitive team in the right way.

  6. Yesterday at 17:00

    BD94technologically challenged
    I like him, but if he's to be considered good enough for us (or any club bigger than Spurs) in a few years, he should be getting top four with Spurs this year.
  7. Yesterday at 17:04

    DWelbz19Full Member
    He really is a good manager. He has built a hard-working very young Spurs side. I said they'd be my pick for top 4 and I think they'll do it.
  8. Yesterday at 17:05

    AdisaFull Member
    Second option to Guardiola.
  9. Yesterday at 18:02

    KMI’m afraid I just blue myself
    I'm a big fan of what he's done at Spurs. Haven't spent too much money, get rid of the dross and have built a very young squad with quality.​
 

Matrix

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Yesterday FB was very quiet in regards to the Goons getting their draw. Today they seem to be out in force moaning about injuries and us bringing out a dvd. Obviously it's taken them just over 24hrs to find a retort to how flimsy they looked.
Sometimes they are quite embarrassing. If we are shit, how comes the just about got a point off us in their back yard.
 

rossdapep

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Yesterday FB was very quiet in regards to the Goons getting their draw. Today they seem to be out in force moaning about injuries and us bringing out a dvd. Obviously it's taken them just over 24hrs to find a retort to how flimsy they looked.
Sometimes they are quite embarrassing. If we are shit, how comes the just about got a point off us in their back yard.
I'd say it's a natural reaction to being scared. They are looking over their shoulders as they weren't expecting us to be so strong. Since the start of the season my cousin has been giving it the "one season wonder" Kane, after the game yesterday, silence. They are definitely concerned.
 

THFCSPURS19

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A lot of talk on redcafe about buying Kane and who has more talent, him or martial.

  1. One season wonder they said.

  2. Yesterday at 16:37

    Mister_StubbsFull Member
    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.

  3. Yesterday at 16:38

    UzzFull Member
    He's very endearing.

  4. Yesterday at 16:40

    AmadaeusOoh, rock me!

    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.
    It takes a lot of balls to admit you were wrong. You were not the only one that called Kane a one season wonder on here. Nevertheless, it looks like he is finding form and Martial still have a long way to have a season as comparable as his last term.

  5. Yesterday at 16:44

    K2KFull Member

    I was one of those who last season said it was just a golden period for the lad but the way he has been performing these recent weeks and the goals he's scored I'm happy to admit I was badly wrong.
    I'm another that is looking rather foolish..Class finish that was, perhaps should be England's no. 1

  6. Yesterday at 16:50

    charlenefanFar less insightful than the other Charley
    Sign him up in the summer, whatever the cost

  7. Yesterday at 16:55

    SpockFull Member

    Sign him up in the summer, whatever the cost
    Agreed, Kane would be a fantastic buy but if we do surely it would have to be the end of Rooney at OT. But with Roo's 300k/week contract what club would buy him?

  8. Yesterday at 16:58

    RaeesFull Member
    You can't sign Kane if you have Martial. It would hinder Martials progress.

  9. Yesterday at 17:00

    Rowemgently, down the stream
    The Kane Train is back on track!

    I think he will continue to prove people wrong who scoff at him. Whether or not he will ever be a world class striker is yet to be seen but he is certainly more than an over - hyped kid who went on a purple patch of form, as some people are intent on pidgeon-holing him as.

  10. Yesterday at 17:03

    KagFull Member
    I'm not sure what the doubters were watching, to be honest. Kane has a lot of the necessities needed to play well up top and a little drought was never going to change that.

    I'd still like to see the club bring him in next summer.

  11. Yesterday at 17:03

    AdisaFull Member
    If it means Martial on the wings then NO. As much as I like him. But I think LVG will love him as the second striker. In that case, he will retire Rooney.

  12. Yesterday at 17:04

    BrwnedHave you ever been in love before?

    You can't sign Kane if you have Martial. It would hinder Martials progress.
    I think they can play together and take turns dropping deep like Rooney and Martial have done in the last two matches. He certainly isn't out of place dropping deep and linking up the play. Plus he offers that aerial threat and hold up play that Fellaini offers us along with a whole lot more on top of that.

  13. Yesterday at 17:04

    bosnian_redWorst scout to ever exist
    Marital is more talented then Kane. If we get Kane then we'd probably play Martial on the left (left of a front 3 could work brilliantly though). But then what do you do with Memphis? See if he develops as a right sided player? Or we just use a 4-4-2 type formation for most games with Kane and Martial up top, and in the tough games, switch to a 4-3-3 with Martial on a wing.​
  14. Yesterday at 17:05

    KagFull Member

    If it means Martial on the wings then NO. As much as I like him. But I think LVG will love him as the second striker. In that case, he will retire Rooney.
    I think Kane and Martial could easily drift between one another. As you imply, Kane is more than capable of dropping off the main forward​
  15. Yesterday at 17:07

    RaeesFull Member

    I think they can play together and take turns dropping deep like Rooney and Martial have done in the last two matches. He certainly isn't out of place dropping deep and linking up the play. Plus he offers that aerial threat and hold up play that Fellaini offers us along with a whole lot more on top of that.
    I have no doubt they could do well in a 442 together but ideally you want the side to become a 433 side like the majority of top teams in Europe. Martial has the potential to be the best number 9 in the world.. Kane is merely a top class premier league striker who I don't think has the ability that Martial potentially could get to.

    I'd focus on strengthening other areas of the side rather than get ourselves into a difficult situation where we might have to drop a top striker for key games. It wouldn't be fair on either of them.​
  16. Yesterday at 17:09

    2 Man MidfieldModern Woman
    No thanks. Would cost way too much, and we need Martial leading the line. Would rather invest in a proper wide forward/winger.​
  17. Yesterday at 17:11

    KagFull Member

    No thanks. Would cost way too much, and we need Martial leading the line. Would rather invest in a proper wide forward/winger.
    I think we need to look at bringing in both.​
  18. Yesterday at 17:11

    AmadaeusOoh, rock me!

    Marital is more talented then Kane. If we get Kane then we'd probably play Martial on the left (left of a front 3 could work brilliantly though). But then what do you do with Memphis? See if he develops as a right sided player? Or we just use a 4-4-2 type formation for most games with Kane and Martial up top, and in the tough games, switch to a 4-3-3 with Martial on a wing.
    Bring back the old days and give 4-4-2 a shot or a more modern 4-2-2-2

    De Gea
    Darmien - Smalling - Blind - Shaw
    Lingard/Mata - Schneiderlin - Schweinstiger - Flipe Anderson
    Kane - Martial​
  19. Yesterday at 17:13

    NinjaFletchFull Member
    I don't really see the point of signing him.

    I'm sure he'd do alright, but for the money we can and should be looking at world class tier talent, not just very good.​
  20. Yesterday at 17:22

    bosnian_redWorst scout to ever exist

    Bring back the old days and give 4-4-2 a shot or a more modern 4-2-2-2

    De Gea
    Darmien - Smalling - Blind - Shaw
    Lingard/Mata - Schneiderlin - Schweinstiger - Flipe Anderson
    Kane - Martial
    At first I thought we didn't need him at all but thinking about it, it makes sense. Martial can work well either as the lone man or with a partner, same with Kane. They can both take turns to drop deep and act as a 10, and in tough games, we switch to a 4-3-3 and put Martial on the wing as a wide forwrad where he's just as good as he is up top probably (just needs to improve his crossing really). We get 2 reliable goalscorers in the team and if one gets on a drought, we have the other, same if one gets injured.​
  21. Yesterday at 17:26

    KagFull Member

    At first I thought we didn't need him at all but thinking about it, it makes sense. Martial can work well either as the lone man or with a partner, same with Kane. They can both take turns to drop deep and act as a 10, and in tough games, we switch to a 4-3-3 and put Martial on the wing as a wide forwrad where he's just as good as he is up top probably (just needs to improve his crossing really). We get 2 reliable goalscorers in the team and if one gets on a drought, we have the other, same if one gets injured.
    Exactly. Two strikers can work when they're strikers like Kane and Martial. Both lads can hold it up, Martial can dribble, Kane has an eye for a pass and can knock one in from distance. What one lacks the other has in abundance and if we're looking for a couple of attackers I'd be looking to Kane as one of them.​
  22. Yesterday at 17:27

    golden_blunderDreaming of a return to 4-4-2
    All aboard!

    Form is temporary, class is permanent

    This boy is undeniably class​

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Matrix

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I'd say it's a natural reaction to being scared. They are looking over their shoulders as they weren't expecting us to be so strong. Since the start of the season my cousin has been giving it the "one season wonder" Kane, after the game yesterday, silence. They are definitely concerned.
TBH i think its been like that the last 5 years. When they were steam rolling everyone during the Henry Era, we hardly got a mention as we were not that great. They saw Man U, Liverpool and Chelsea as their games of the season. Now all they do is go on about us day in day out. Def signs of being scared.
 

olliec

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Bluddy 'ell, i fort he was spurs thru and thru but he just loves arsenal dunt he, that pic from years ago all makes sense now. 'e just finks we're bluddy spuds

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Even Arsenal fans will be embarrassed by this fan. It's so embarrassing to know that a grown ass man spent time putting this together makes me cringe!
 

Shadydan

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Was snooping around on Redcafe this morning and found this:

"If Poch has sorted out the mentality of this Spurs side, they're in with a good chance. Every time I think to myself I want Spurs to finish 4th, I see Glaston post and I think Feck that and pray for Leicester or West Ham."

GlaatonSpur still being a nob then :D
 

Col_M

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I find it astonishing that football fans fall for the spin that clubs and media put out. And then repeat it to anyone within earshot. It's like they are incapable of reaching a conclusion by themselves. That solicitors guy after the Chelsea Liverpool game who spoke about the Conspiracy against Chelsea, these Arsenal fans who talk about fatigue, Man Utd fans who think Martial is the best player in the world because they paid so much money for him and Liverpool fans full stop. Don't get me wrong, we're just as bad.
 
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