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The Race to the Title

walton

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Last night was incredible, and we're on fire just now...however, I think it's too late and I'm slightly concerned at the potential orgy of bitter disappointment that will be witnessed on here if we finish second. Finishing second really is the stuff of dreams when you look at where we've come from...and it should be just the start. Carragher last night was waxing lyrical about how he now thinks that we have a squad that will go on challenging as opposed to being a flash-in-the-pan. Regardless of where we ultimately end up, we are on to something here - let's not forget it.
 

mark87

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Last night was incredible, and we're on fire just now...however, I think it's too late and I'm slightly concerned at the potential orgy of bitter disappointment that will be witnessed on here if we finish second. Finishing second really is the stuff of dreams when you look at where we've come from...and it should be just the start. Carragher last night was waxing lyrical about how he now thinks that we have a squad that will go on challenging as opposed to being a flash-in-the-pan. Regardless of where we ultimately end up, we are on to something here - let's not forget it.

Alot of people do recognise that we're building something and if we won all our remaining games and still didn't win the league then there's not much to be disappointed about as we did all we could do. Sure there will be a few idiots who say, "it was Leicester at home that cost us" or "it was Newcastle at home that cost us" but guess what, everyone loses games they're supposed to win, that's football, we wernt expected to beat city twice but we did.

So I for one will be immensely proud of our boys if we finish runners up, bearing in mind our aim at the start of the season was fourth and I will be thoroughly looking forward to next season.
 

Sevens

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Last night was incredible, and we're on fire just now...however, I think it's too late and I'm slightly concerned at the potential orgy of bitter disappointment that will be witnessed on here if we finish second. Finishing second really is the stuff of dreams when you look at where we've come from...and it should be just the start. Carragher last night was waxing lyrical about how he now thinks that we have a squad that will go on challenging as opposed to being a flash-in-the-pan. Regardless of where we ultimately end up, we are on to something here - let's not forget it.

The two games for me that are vital are them at home to Swansea and us away to Chelsea. If they fail to take maximum points against Swansea and we beat Chelsea then it's game on.

Either way I have a sneaky suspicion that the title race won't go down to the final day and it's going to come down to one of the two below scenarios.

Leicester draw against Swansea, lose against Utd and we beat WBA and Chelsea. We'll be league leaders on goal difference on the penultimate round of fixtures. In that scenario I wouldn't be at all shocked if Leicester completely went to pieces and lost against Everton at home, allowing a win for us against Southampton to clinch the title.

Alternatively they beat Swansea, lose to Utd. We beat WBA and draw or lose against Chelsea. That leaves us 4 or 5 pts behind them going into the Everton match, which they win to clinch the title.
 

Sevens

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Alot of people do recognise that we're building something and if we won all our remaining games and still didn't win the league then there's not much to be disappointed about as we did all we could do. Sure there will be a few idiots who say, "it was Leicester at home that cost us" or "it was Newcastle at home that cost us" but guess what, everyone loses games they're supposed to win, that's football, we wernt expected to beat city twice but we did.

So I for one will be immensely proud of our boys if we finish runners up, bearing in mind our aim at the start of the season was fourth and I will be thoroughly looking forward to next season.

It's an odd situation. Under normal circumstances we'd all be buzzing that we've almost certainly qualified for the Champion's League and look likely to finish ahead of the scum for the first time in 20 years. But, and I don't mean to disparage Leicester, potentially finishing second to Leicester City just makes it frustrating!
 

Jenko

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Still waiting for Leicester to lose a game though aren't we? That's why I'm still reeling from that stupid last minute peno against West ham.

They need to lose a game. It doesn't happen a lot. If we accept they're not gonna draw more than two of they're last four games then someone has to beat them.

I see Utd as the only team capable of it to be honest. Chelsea WILL roll over.
 

hellava_tough

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The two games for me that are vital are them at home to Swansea and us away to Chelsea. If they fail to take maximum points against Swansea and we beat Chelsea then it's game on.

Either way I have a sneaky suspicion that the title race won't go down to the final day and it's going to come down to one of the two below scenarios.

Leicester draw against Swansea, lose against Utd and we beat WBA and Chelsea. We'll be league leaders on goal difference on the penultimate round of fixtures. In that scenario I wouldn't be at all shocked if Leicester completely went to pieces and lost against Everton at home, allowing a win for us against Southampton to clinch the title.

Alternatively they beat Swansea, lose to Utd. We beat WBA and draw or lose against Chelsea. That leaves us 4 or 5 pts behind them going into the Everton match, which they win to clinch the title.

Although we'd be presented with the trophy against Newcastle because they'd still be a mathematical chance that Leicester could win the league (if they overturned a 16+ goal difference).
 

Nebby

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The two games for me that are vital are them at home to Swansea and us away to Chelsea. If they fail to take maximum points against Swansea and we beat Chelsea then it's game on.

Either way I have a sneaky suspicion that the title race won't go down to the final day and it's going to come down to one of the two below scenarios.

Leicester draw against Swansea, lose against Utd and we beat WBA and Chelsea. We'll be league leaders on goal difference on the penultimate round of fixtures. In that scenario I wouldn't be at all shocked if Leicester completely went to pieces and lost against Everton at home, allowing a win for us against Southampton to clinch the title.

Alternatively they beat Swansea, lose to Utd. We beat WBA and draw or lose against Chelsea. That leaves us 4 or 5 pts behind them going into the Everton match, which they win to clinch the title.

The nightmare scenario: Leicester implode, Arsenal close the gap, and we have to win away at Newcastle. Up steps a scorned Townsend and the whole thing goes tits up. No idea whether it's mathematically possible, but as nightmare scenarios go it's a doozy.
 

Gbspurs

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Still waiting for Leicester to lose a game though aren't we? That's why I'm still reeling from that stupid last minute peno against West ham.

They need to lose a game. It doesn't happen a lot. If we accept they're not gonna draw more than two of they're last four games then someone has to beat them.

I see Utd as the only team capable of it to be honest. Chelsea WILL roll over.

Think positively. If they lost against West Ham what are the odds of them suffering back to back defeats? Since it was only a draw there is still a loss on the cards. I know football isn't played in statistics but it helps to keep me positive.
 

stokesy

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Still waiting for Leicester to lose a game though aren't we? That's why I'm still reeling from that stupid last minute peno against West ham.

They need to lose a game. It doesn't happen a lot. If we accept they're not gonna draw more than two of they're last four games then someone has to beat them.

I see Utd as the only team capable of it to be honest. Chelsea WILL roll over.

Not necessarily. Win, Draw, Draw, Draw might not be enough for them.
 

arunspurs

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What a great night of football. So proud of the team & effort. I can't see us selling any players & I can't see Pochettino leaving us as well for next few seasons...Whatever happens from now on, this team will become only better.

Other teams like Chelsea, United, Liverpool & City would undergo transition. Couple of them will fall apart & two may get stronger as season progresses. But on other hand, our squad would know exactly whats expected of each one. As long as team is devoid of injuries & fatigue, I am expecting a even better season.
 

Legacy

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Now, for all those who cant see what difference it makes playing after Leicester every week, can you still not see that if we played WBrom BEFORE they play Swansea and cut the lead down to 2 pts that it would pile more pressure on them??? No??
Well fk it then I give up lol.
No, because they will be expecting us to beat West Brom, meaning they'll be going into the match 'knowing' that if they don't win their easiest match in the run in, we'll close the gap. Without us even playing, they'll have our next result in the back of their heads, which will affect them just as much as it would if we had played first and beat West Brom.
 

arunspurs

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Hoping Gylfi would do us a favour. Even a away draw for Swansea would put the pressure on Leicester going into Old Trafford.
 

Spurs 1961

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Let's hope we do a Danny Willett and come from behind in the final run in; let's hope that Leicester do a Speith and run out of luck against an opponent who will make no mistakes

Four games to go; no other distractions; a week to rest, train and prepare totally focused on the game plan. All this is a great place to be. It won't be easy but we have a clear path ahead; we need to win all games so go into every game with no thoughts about a draw being enough. So playing first or last makes no difference. On the other hand Leicester will be trying to hold what they have. Will a draw or two be enough? Will Spurs keep up the pressure?
 

Legacy

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Utd mate of mine said he's a Spurs fan for the title run in lol
United fan of mine has been supporting Spurs since the new year. Had another text from him this morning saying how jealous he is of Spurs at the moment. Reminds him of United in the 90s.
 

talkshowhost86

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I'm still not holding out much hope for Swansea getting much in that game, but there is a chance that if they play relatively defensively they may blunt Leicester, particularly if they don't have Vardy.

I just don't understand how so many teams have played into their hands this season by pushing up and letting them through on the break. Surely the 4 teams they have left to play will have learnt something?
 

arunspurs

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Leciester have been brilliant this season. Their brilliance is down to 4 players - Vardy, Mahrez, Drinkwater & Kante. But their entire game plan revolves around ability of one player -Vardy. Losing him 2 games is huge problem for them.

If Swansea turn up for the game & give them a fight, I can't see Leicester forcing a win with their usual 35% possession.
 

Kingellesar

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May 2, 2005
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Still a slim possibility Swansea could go down. They have an awful run in, Leicester, West Ham, Liverpool and City.

If Sunderland win the game in hand, they would be 7 behind whilst Norwich would be 9 behind. Pretty long shot but if I were Swansea you'd be wanting that extra point or 3 to make sure you're safe! Plus they could jump to mid table, thats a big incentive for some decent prize money.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I believe there must be an extra factor beyond Vardy being out for us to truly gain on them. As much as Vardy being out is a potentially huge, I wouldn't say it's a given that it will be vastly devastating to them.
Being so close to the title, Leicester will want to pull out all the stops, and IMO Ranieri has already once this spring adapted their game plane to a protective plan circling the title chances. He could manage even a new adaption. What will be vital in addition to Vardy being out is their opponents showing up, and having the patience West Ham had. Even 1 goal down, West Ham got back into the match. That's the sort of attitude needed. If their opponents apply a fierce devil may care attitude, it can get interesting.
 
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