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Chelsea sign Michy Batshuayi

sparx100

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Yeah, it must be a really fucked up strategy that sees us finish above Chelsea (twice), ManUtd (twice) and ManCity (twice), Liverpool (numerous) whilst they all outspend and pay much vastly more in wages than us whilst we are finishing above them.
Agreed. Just want to see us address a definite light area with someone better than Shane Long or Berahino
 

Ossie85

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Our strategy is always to play the 'long game' in an attempt to shave a few quid off the deal. I'm not against this as it can and has worked for us, but Levy needs to realize that you cannot be doing that with goalscorers or exceptional attacking talent. It's a different ball game to trying to sign defenders and defensive midfielders, you need to move quickly with attacking talent, especially strikers..

Well, it's not a "few quid" :LOL:
But yeah, agree with you. With attacking talent you just have to pay up. It's difficult to play the long game. Quality attacking players hardly go unnoticed
 

Bus-Conductor

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I don't think 30m is actually crazy money for Batshuayi if he's going to start games for a team that will provide him the ammo every week. At 22yo I think he already has proved he has basics (ability/mentality/product), has had good progressive development and his potential to keep developing makes that 30m perfectly acceptable.

But he would not be a starter for us. We already have a player who has just won the golden boot at a similar age, offers goals, pressing and fulcrum play. We are not desperate or rich enough (and to be fair, with FFP, few are) to pay £30m for a player who will be second choice for nearly every important game that Kane is fit for.

Our biggest weakness is creating quality chances. I'd much rather we went and spunked some dough on someone like Draxler or Fekir, added a bit more wit to our attack and bought a cheaper back up option to Kane, either a young up and comer or even and oldy but goody. Because that's all that's needed for our striker situation.
 

glacierSpurs

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Is just a 100k/w wage chelscum willing to pay and we don't, quite simply isn't it? To chelscum that wage level is probably on the lower tier of their wage expenses.. The transfer fee is over-hyped.. £30mil is not impossible from us..

Batman is just too uncompromising and as far as I think, greedy, on this stance that Daniel and Poch totally cannot afford to disrupt our wage system and dressing room harmony by making him the best paid player immediately...

IMO he gambled into a win-win situation for himself from OM financial situation..
 

dagraham

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Is just a 100k/w wage chelscum willing to pay and we don't, quite simply isn't it? To chelscum that wage level is probably on the lower tier of their wage expenses..

Batman is just too uncompromising and as far as I think, greedy, on this stance that Daniel and Poch totally cannot afford to disrupt our wage system and dressing room harmony by making him the best paid player immediately...

IMO he gambled into a win-win situation for himself from OM financial situation..

According to the Standard he wants £70k a week.
 

Ossie85

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I don't think 30m is actually crazy money for Batshuayi if he's going to start games for a team that will provide him the ammo every week. At 22yo I think he already has proved he has basics (ability/mentality/product), has had good progressive development and his potential to keep developing makes that 30m perfectly acceptable.

But he would not be a starter for us. We already have a player who has just won the golden boot at a similar age, offers goals, pressing and fulcrum play. We are not desperate or rich enough (and to be fair, with FFP, few are) to pay £30m for a player who will be second choice for nearly every important game that Kane is fit for.

Our biggest weakness is creating quality chances. I'd much rather we went and spunked some dough on someone like Draxler or Fekir, added a bit more wit to our attack and bought a cheaper back up option to Kane, either a young up and comer or even and oldy but goody. Because that's all that's needed for our striker situation.

Draxler is too expensive, and Fekir would command a similar price to the one we just wouldn't pay for Bats.
There's still Boufal, but we should hurry up, or we will lose on that one too. I've just read that chelsea are also interested in him
 

Bus-Conductor

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Agreed. Just want to see us address a definite light area with someone better than Shane Long or Berahino

Honestly mate, I have never understood this striker fixation. Since Berbatov left it's been "all we need is a top drawer striker" we get a striker that score over 20 goals two seasons running and now its "we need two top drawer strikers".

Arsenal finish above us every season and have outscored us every year bar last year in the last 6, with one striker and often one that's been inferior or no better than ours, why ? because they have more intelligent players who create better quality chances that don't require the striker to be world class.

We should spend the money on players who improve our IQ, not our strength or speed.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Draxler is too expensive, and Fekir would command a similar price to the one we just wouldn't pay for Bats.
There's still Boufal, but we should hurry up, or we will lose on that one too. I've just read that chelsea are also interested in him

But Draxler or Fekir would improve our first team immediately, makes spending 30m much more viable than on a bench warmer.

I'd happily offload Chadli (and Son if needs be) spend 50m on Draxler/Fekir and Janssen. With the Townsend money we'd still be on break even and would have improved both first team and bench. Sell Trippier and promote Pritchard, Harrison and KWP all for nothing.
 

King of Otters

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Yeah, it must be a really fucked up strategy that sees us finish above Chelsea (twice), ManUtd (twice) and ManCity (twice), Liverpool (numerous) whilst they all outspend and pay much vastly more in wages than us whilst we are finishing above them.

How much of that was due to our transfer strategy? And how much was due to us stumbling upon a really fucking good manager?
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Honestly mate, I have never understood this striker fixation. Since Berbatov left it's been "all we need is a top drawer striker" we get a striker that score over 20 goals two seasons running and now its "we need two top drawer strikers".

Arsenal finish above us every season and have outscored us every year bar last year in the last 6, with one striker and often one that's been inferior or no better than ours, why ? because they have more intelligent players who create better quality chances that don't require the striker to be world class.

We should spend the money on players who improve our IQ, not our strength or speed.
OK, in which case we shouldn't get any striker at all. IF we don't need a GOOD striker, then it's not logical that we would need an inferior striker more, hence we shouldn't spend any money on any striker and spend all the money on a new player for the AM3.
 

Bus-Conductor

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How much of that was due to our transfer strategy? And how much was due to us stumbling upon a really fucking good manager?

Considering most of our best players have been brought in under a DOF system I think it's fair to say transfer strategy has played a major role in our success and few clubs, if any have played the market better than us for value.

We finished above Liverpool with various different managers, ManU with Poch and AVB/Serwood, ManC with Poch and Redknapp, Chelsea with Poch and Redknapp.
 
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