I love Poch

Pellshek · Oct 3, 2016

Interesting comment on Red Cafe that it isn't Real we need to worry about pinching Poch - their Galactico philosophy is the opposite of Poch's approach - but rather Bayern after Ancelotti's stint there. Seems a much more natural fit; Poch's style is not unlike Germany's, and his stable, level-headed, unfussy demeanour seems suited to Bayern's culture.

BPR_U16 · Oct 3, 2016

He may go but only after creating a legacy here.

All the building blocks are coming into place, the players can see his vision.

Think (hope) he will stay to see it come to fruition.

newbie · Oct 3, 2016

He said he wants to be here for 20 years fingers crossed

yido_number1 · Oct 3, 2016

There were comments from him saying he wasn't interested in the Real job due to the head chopping but I think it would be hard to turn down. After seeing him demolish Pep's (all be it early phase) side yesterday Barca must be talking.

Hopefully the opportunity to win a title with us, see us out into the new stadium and have a legacy will be more appealing. If he repeated his first season with us at Barca or Real he would be gone.

CornerPinDreamer · Oct 3, 2016

Francis Gibbs said:
Worrying thing is that pretty soon he is going to be able write his own chq for any club in the world

the Lamela Fan Club?

Mullers · Oct 3, 2016

It's a good start to the season for him, the exception being the Monaco hiccup. I'm not saying he is a top manager yet that the likes of Real or the other top teams would go for. If we could have a bit of a run on the CL while qualifying for the CL again this season it would be a big achievement.

HildoSpur · Oct 3, 2016

Mullers said:
It's a good start to the season for him, the exception being the Monaco hiccup. I'm not saying he is a top manager yet that the likes of Real or the other top teams would go for. If we could have a bit of a run on the CL while qualifying for the CL again this season it would be a big achievement.

I think it's fair to say that this is better than just a good start for him. It's the best start for the club in about 50 years or something crazy - yes the Monaco result was disappointing but we also went to Russia and won which was fantastic.

Poch is the real deal.

Mullers · Oct 3, 2016

HildoSpur said:
I think it's fair to say that this is better than just a good start for him. It's the best start for the club in about 50 years or something crazy - yes the Monaco result was disappointing but we also went to Russia and won which was fantastic.

Poch is the real deal.

I think that says more about our past failures then it does about Poch. To be the real deal you have to be winning things. Keeping things in perspective, we picked up a point against Everton and against Liverpool and win yesterday. We aren't blazing a trail our rivals are still very much in it. There is 4 points between us and Chelsea, that's nothing at all. Go to places like Anfield and Stamford Bridge where we haven't won for 26 years. He has to seriously overachieve before I can consider him the real deal, at the moment he is a good manager not a great manager.

HildoSpur · Oct 3, 2016

Mullers said:
I think that says more about our past failures then it does about Poch. To be the real deal you have to be winning things. Keeping things in perspective, we picked up a point against Everton and against Liverpool and win yesterday. We aren't blazing a trail our rivals are still very much in it. There is 4 points between us and Chelsea, that's nothing at all. Go to places like Anfield and Stamford Bridge where we haven't won for 26 years. He has to seriously overachieve before I can consider him the real deal, at the moment he is a good manager not a great manager.

You are judging him on games we havent even played yet. I agree that it is still too early to judge at the moment but the signs are very positive. Let's chat again at Christmas and see how we go.

thelak · Oct 3, 2016

What I like about Poch in no particular order:

Seems like a nice,humble, hard working person with a huge work ethic and not much ego - wants to sign players with similar attitudes and therefore generally creates a unique collective spirit

Alli yesterday talked about him with lots of respect. That he wants to help players become better people and not just footballers.

Has a tough, ruthless side to him too. Doesn't suffer fools or any challenge to authority

Seems to be a loyal guy. And seems to have staff and figures in the game that all speak v highly of him as a warm guy

Seems to have perfected the balance therefore of having genuine authority but also respect and admiration. A great friend and ally but not someone to cross

Has a genuine style of football that takes that collective spirit, creates a team more than the some of its parts and somehow inspires players to run through brick walls for him

Cares about Youth development and legacy and seems to understand what a clubs ethos and fans stand for and how important it is to keep them connected to the club

Seems to appreciate that success is sweeter if you don't just throw loads of $$$ at the problem

thelak · Oct 3, 2016

Mullers said:
I think that says more about our past failures then it does about Poch. To be the real deal you have to be winning things. Keeping things in perspective, we picked up a point against Everton and against Liverpool and win yesterday. We aren't blazing a trail our rivals are still very much in it. There is 4 points between us and Chelsea, that's nothing at all. Go to places like Anfield and Stamford Bridge where we haven't won for 26 years. He has to seriously overachieve before I can consider him the real deal, at the moment he is a good manager not a great manager.

But you make no accounting for the fact that he is delilvering this with a wage and transfer budget way smaller than all of the clubs you have just listed bar Everton (and even they now have a minted owner). If it was a level playing field financially you would have a reasonable point but I would describe the last 12-18 months as overachievement big time vs expectations at that time

Going into last season people were worried about dropping out of the top 6 and now we are being considered credible title challengers for the second season in a row - long way to go of course.

2 years ago he took over a team and dressing room in disarray and has turned us into one of the most dynamic clubs in the league with the youngest squad, amazing team spirit whilst spending very little money relative to those around us

Maybe not a great manager in that he hasn't won 3 champions leagues etc but he is amongst the very top in the world given what he has done in two years here with the resources he has and given the starting point which was 2-3 years of dross under AVb and Sherwood

rocklink · Oct 3, 2016

Pellshek said:
Interesting comment on Red Cafe that it isn't Real we need to worry about pinching Poch - their Galactico philosophy is the opposite of Poch's approach - but rather Bayern after Ancelotti's stint there. Seems a much more natural fit; Poch's style is not unlike Germany's, and his stable, level-headed, unfussy demeanour seems suited to Bayern's culture.

Hopefully Bayern will take Klopp because of the nationality connection...

yankspurs · Oct 3, 2016

¡Viva la revolución!

chinaman · Oct 3, 2016

thelak said:
But you make no accounting for the fact that he is delilvering this with a wage and transfer budget way smaller than all of the clubs you have just listed bar Everton (and even they now have a minted owner). If it was a level playing field financially you would have a reasonable point but I would describe the last 12-18 months as overachievement big time vs expectations at that time

Going into last season people were worried about dropping out of the top 6 and now we are being considered credible title challengers for the second season in a row - long way to go of course.

2 years ago he took over a team and dressing room in disarray and has turned us into one of the most dynamic clubs in the league with the youngest squad, amazing team spirit whilst spending very little money relative to those around us

Maybe not a great manager in that he hasn't won 3 champions leagues etc but he is amongst the very top in the world given what he has done in two years here with the resources he has and given the starting point which was 2-3 years of dross under AVb and Sherwood

When we win anything with Poch leading, there will be the added satisfaction that it is achieved through hard work and ingenuity. I don't want the sort of bought success of a Klopp, pep , and least of all Maureen.

ComfortablyNumb · Oct 3, 2016

I think he'll stay for at least the first season in the new stadium. Levy knows he has to sell about 20,000 extra season tickets, so I'm expecting a major signing in one of the windows leading up to that season, and i'll bet that Levy has made big promises to Poch about that.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Levy has but feelers out to Bale. It'll be someone that big. Bound to be. Wouldn't it? Oh, come on...

Mullers · Oct 3, 2016

thelak said:
But you make no accounting for the fact that he is delilvering this with a wage and transfer budget way smaller than all of the clubs you have just listed bar Everton (and even they now have a minted owner). If it was a level playing field financially you would have a reasonable point but I would describe the last 12-18 months as overachievement big time vs expectations at that time

Going into last season people were worried about dropping out of the top 6 and now we are being considered credible title challengers for the second season in a row - long way to go of course.

2 years ago he took over a team and dressing room in disarray and has turned us into one of the most dynamic clubs in the league with the youngest squad, amazing team spirit whilst spending very little money relative to those around us

Maybe not a great manager in that he hasn't won 3 champions leagues etc but he is amongst the very top in the world given what he has done in two years here with the resources he has and given the starting point which was 2-3 years of dross under AVb and Sherwood

We are only 7 games into the season, it's where you finish that matters. Last season was unique because of Leicester winning the title and our rivals put on a substandard performance, what we achieved was great but Arsenal piped us to second place when that was ours for the taking.

We got to the quarter finals and got our highest points total under AVB. I'm not going to go through all the history and other stuff but when he wanted Ade out he couldn't get him out, he didn't have the set up that Poch had nor the trust of the board despite that he still over achieved.

When Poch took over, he took over a club who finished 6th place. Yeah Sherwood wasn't the greatest man manager to put it mildly but at the end of day to get us to 6th when he had no experience was a very good achievement. He also gave Kane his chance. He wasn't able to clear out players he didn't want.

Redknapp and MJ both got their sides to overachieve and who knows what would have happened if they were given a bit more extra help in the transfer market.

To put Poch as one of the very top managers the same as Ancilloti, Pep etc when he has achieved 5th and 3rd on 71 points is going over the top.

Dougal · Oct 3, 2016

ComfortablyNumb said:
I think he'll stay for at least the first season in the new stadium. Levy knows he has to sell about 20,000 extra season tickets, so I'm expecting a major signing in one of the windows leading up to that season, and i'll bet that Levy has made big promises to Poch about that.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Levy has but feelers out to Bale. It'll be someone that big. Bound to be. Wouldn't it? Oh, come on...

Big signing... Former Spurs player... Got Peter Crouch written all over it.

Everlasting Seconds · Oct 3, 2016

I still think he is learning, and has some way to go. There is nothing wrong with that. That being said, over the last weeks, he has successfully implemented a tweak in his system which is the closest we've been to the sort of football I enjoy since the very best of AVB (and yes, we did have a few really good matches under him). Step by step, Pochettino is sorting out weaknesses, in the squad, in him self, and in many of the players. I don't LOVE Pochettino, but I do love the latest improvements.

Luka Van der Bale · Oct 3, 2016

Mullers said:
We are only 7 games into the season, it's where you finish that matters. Last season was unique because of Leicester winning the title and our rivals put on a substandard performance, what we achieved was great but Arsenal piped us to second place when that was ours for the taking.

We got to the quarter finals and got our highest points total under AVB. I'm not going to go through all the history and other stuff but when he wanted Ade out he couldn't get him out, he didn't have the set up that Poch had nor the trust of the board despite that he still over achieved.

When Poch took over, he took over a club who finished 6th place. Yeah Sherwood wasn't the greatest man manager to put it mildly but at the end of day to get us to 6th when he had no experience was a very good achievement. He also gave Kane his chance. He wasn't able to clear out players he didn't want.

Redknapp and MJ both got their sides to overachieve and who knows what would have happened if they were given a bit more extra help in the transfer market.

To put Poch as one of the very top managers the same as Ancilloti, Pep etc when he has achieved 5th and 3rd on 71 points is going over the top.

You're strange.

newbie · Oct 3, 2016

Us Spurs Fans are a tough crowd come on the Guy deserves a massive amount of respect we are really lucky to have him, its down to Poch we are in the position we are in and lets be honest we have tried and tested a lot of managers.

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