Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

thefierycamel · Oct 17, 2016

If there's any doubt then give him a break

mattie g · Oct 17, 2016

Blake Griffin said:
it's vorm's house.

AndyReid_N17 · Oct 17, 2016

Kristoff Terreur on twatter:

Toby Alderweireld will undergo a scan today. Possibly one of the nerves in his knee took a heavy knock. No full diagnosis yet though.

spursfan77 · Oct 17, 2016

AndyReid_N17 said:
Kristoff Terreur on twatter:

Toby Alderweireld will undergo a scan today. Possibly one of the nerves in his knee took a heavy knock. No full diagnosis yet though.

That's what the Times are saying too. Better news than the Guardian article.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alderweireld-worry-for-pochettino-wf7j59wqz

Although I await the SC Nerve Damage Specialists to comment before I get too excited!

worcestersauce · Oct 17, 2016

Must be the first time we are all hoping for a knee jerk reaction!

Kiedis · Oct 17, 2016

Probably not related, seeing as the guy will be getting top notch treatment, but some [edit] fornicator once insisted on playing football with metal studs on an artificial pitch and landed on top of my big toe. It led to nerve damage, and for a month it felt like my wrist was being blown clean off with a shotgun every time i tried kicking a ball.

The doctor told me that playing football wouldn't be dangerous, I just had decide whether it the fun outweighed the feeling of the foot being shot off thing.

Still guessing, but one could probably ease the pain through local anestesia if it's "just" nerve damage.

spursfan77 · Oct 17, 2016

Kiedis said:
Probably not related, seeing as the guy will be getting top notch treatment, but some [edit] fornicator once insisted on playing football with metal studs on an artificial pitch and landed on top of my big toe. It led to nerve damage, and for a month it felt like my wrist was being blown clean off with a shotgun every time i tried kicking a ball.

The doctor told me that playing football wouldn't be dangerous, I just had decide whether it the fun outweighed the feeling of the foot being shot off thing.

Still guessing, but one could probably ease the pain through local anestesia if it's "just" nerve damage.

Some injections should get him through the games then. Guess it depends how freely the club administer that kind of pain relief though.

Romulus · Oct 17, 2016

absolutely fantastic if its weeks rather than months. very vrucial we bring him back asap

CosmicHotspur · Oct 17, 2016

thefierycamel said:
If there's any doubt then give him a break

Please don't use that word.

thefierycamel · Oct 17, 2016

CosmicHotspur said:
Please don't use that word.

Fracture his schedule up then

DJS · Oct 17, 2016

Man I wish I was a professional footballer, do a bit of training (keeping nice and trim to impress the laydees) and then go home to play video games...

(Also get well soon Toby

).

Shea · Oct 17, 2016

spursfan77 said:
That's what the Times are saying too. Better news than the Guardian article.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alderweireld-worry-for-pochettino-wf7j59wqz

Although I await the SC Nerve Damage Specialists to comment before I get too excited!

He could have had direct trauma to his Saphenous nerve considering the impact was to the anterior (front) aspect of the knee and potentially medially (closer to midline)

After the initial pain on impact and resultant inflammation/swelling it would probably present like patellofemoral pain syndrome

Could take a while to actually heal itself, especially in his line of work with the continuous impacts and explosive movements during matches and training but it would probably/hopefully reduce enough for him to comfortably return to action sooner rather than later (even if he requires some pain management to comfortably play and train in the mean time)

We have a run of fixtures before the NLD where it would be reasonable to rest him if necessary anyway so hopefully this won't be too negative an issue for the player or us

AndyReid_N17 · Oct 17, 2016

Shea said:
He could have had direct trauma to his Saphenous nerve considering the impact was to the anterior (front) aspect of the knee and potentially medially (closer to midline)

After the initial pain on impact and resultant inflammation/swelling it would probably present like patellofemoral pain syndrome

Could take a while to actually heal itself, especially in his line of work with the continuous impacts and explosive movements during matches and training but it would probably/hopefully reduce enough for him to comfortably return to action sooner rather than later (even if he requires some pain management to comfortably play and train in the mean time)

We have a run of fixtures before the NLD where it would be reasonable to rest him if necessary anyway so hopefully this won't be too negative an issue for the player or us

Take it you are in the building trade?

arunspurs · Oct 17, 2016

Shea said:
He could have had direct trauma to his Saphenous nerve considering the impact was to the anterior (front) aspect of the knee and potentially medially (closer to midline)

After the initial pain on impact and resultant inflammation/swelling it would probably present like patellofemoral pain syndrome

Could take a while to actually heal itself, especially in his line of work with the continuous impacts and explosive movements during matches and training but it would probably/hopefully reduce enough for him to comfortably return to action sooner rather than later (even if he requires some pain management to comfortably play and train in the mean time)

We have a run of fixtures before the NLD where it would be reasonable to rest him if necessary anyway so hopefully this won't be too negative an issue for the player or us

I rememeber him holding his back of the knee just below thighs

Shea · Oct 17, 2016

AndyReid_N17 said:
Take it you are in the building trade?

I was a plasterer before doing my physiotherapy degree

arunspurs said:
I rememeber him holding his back of the knee just below thighs

I'd need to watch it again but I thought the commentator suggested he was hit by Vertonghen as Jan landed

My initial thought was that tobi was Jan and had been injured as he landed

The replay I saw was very difficult to identify a cause as tobi seemed to be stationary before he went down and at most there seemed to be a coming to together between him and Jan (with Jan being in front of tobi)

There are of course branches of the sciatic nerve that run behind the knee so it doesn't rule out nerve damage if the pain was from behind but the cause of the symptoms from what I saw in the video would become more of a mystery

If the impact was on the outside of his knee it's possibly that the common peroneal nerve was damage and that innovates muscles in the area you describe him holding so it could still be a nerve issue to be fair

Edit: plus if you had pain on the outside of your knee you may naturally wrap your hands around the back too as you grab the painful area

HailKingLevy · Oct 17, 2016

So... Someone starts a thread comparing Toby and Ledley, and then his knee falls off.

spursfan77 · Oct 17, 2016

Is the info from coys on here yet?

3 hours ago, mnemonic111 said:
It was a close friend of mine that took the photo of the boys playing call of duty.

The problem is Toby cant feel his foot at the moment due to blow from Jan !

Out for tomorrow but they are hopeful he will be fit for Saturday but we will know soon

Kiedis · Oct 17, 2016

Would drag my member through a mile of broken glass for that to be true.

npearl4spurs · Oct 17, 2016

Kiedis said:
Would drag my member through a mile of broken glass for that to be true.

I've never seen someone so desperate to ensure someone got credit for the photos they've taken....

mil1lion · Oct 17, 2016

Kiedis said:
Would drag my member through a mile of broken glass for that to be true.

I'm not sure that's really necessary.

Wait, you've done it already haven't you?

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