Paul Mitchell and recruitment in the future.

mill · Feb 7, 2017

yido_number1 said:
All good players listed but in reality if a scout is good he will identifying lesser known players the mainstream aren't aware of.

I think the mainstream is pretty much aware of everyone these days, as soon as they come on the scene or from young

ardiles · Feb 7, 2017

yido_number1 said:
All good players listed but in reality if a scout is good he will identifying lesser known players the mainstream aren't aware of.

To be fair, if he has identified lesser known players that the msm aren't aware of, then we won't see their reports too (until they become aware of, that is

). So the scout could still be identifying unknowns and reporting back to the club.

But anyway, these are young lads and I'd be happy if we sign any one of them.

yido_number1 · Feb 8, 2017

neilp said:
Whilst I agree with what you are saying, and all scouts would be aware of these three players, perhaps his skill is in actually getting the players to sign for us?

Quite possible but I would of thought scouts wouldn't be in direct contact with the players to avoid claims of tapping up. Legally and I appreciate its far from the case I would of thought everything went predominantly chairman to chairman or at least DOF to DOF.

Maybe there is some element of talking through agent, friends and family etc that happens.

JJetset · Feb 8, 2017

Doubt there will be a DOF and all positions are now in place.
Great move getting Steve Hitchen back

Hercules · Feb 8, 2017

JJetset said:
Doubt there will be a DOF and all positions are now in place.
Great move getting Steve Hitchen back

Isn't it remarkable that i said how highly rated and connected he is, from what I know and heard and got laughed out and negged by a couple posters.

Col_M · Feb 8, 2017

Hercules said:
Isn't it remarkable that i said how highly rated and connected he is, from what I know and heard and got laughed out and negged by a couple posters.

I wasn't thinking Remarkable myself. More like, Mildly Interesting.

Kiedis · Feb 8, 2017

Bitchin Hitchen. Like the sound of this guy.

Bus-Conductor · Feb 8, 2017

Cravenspurs said:
Thought this might fit in here. This is what the Famous Monchi has to say about Sevilla's model and their belief in Ligue 1. Interesting little snippet on their network of scouts and how pragmatic Monchi is.

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Been saying the same for years.

Bus-Conductor said:
France is the second highest exporter of footballers after Brazil I believe, and that is possibly skewed in Brazil's favour by the amount they export all over their own continent, whereas French footballers are generally being exported to the strongest leagues in Europe (and ergo the world).

Firstly, on a basic level, French footballers benefit from that thing that other european nations do, that Simon Kuper refers to in his book Soccernomics, in that it (football) is not just the preserve of the poorly educated. This is not unique to France, but it means the average IQ level of French (and many other nations) footballers is already an advantage - and this shows at all levels of ability, it makes an ordinary footballer better than an ordinary stupid one, good ones better than good stupid ones etc. French kids will often be taught a language like English/Spanish/German to a decent standard.

Secondly french football is renowned for educating it's footballers well, not just technically but tactically. Generally they have been educating and teaching their kids the brand of football the spurs academy has been doing in the last few years under McDermott. There is no such thing as long ball in France, everything is about passing, pressing and being tactically aware and disciplined. It's an incredibly tactically diverse league. Today I watched Toulouse play a 4321 (christmas tree) against St Etienne playing a 3421 (with our old friend Ekotto as LWB). PSG play 433, Monaco 4231, Lyon 41212 / 4312, etc etc.

They nurture and value talented individuals but also try to make all the footballers they educate useful, able to play to a decent standard tactically. French football is played at a decent tempo, always on the ground and there is always a heavy tactical element. This means they can assimilate well into other leagues.

The french generally seem to have much less problem giving younger players game time.

You also have a diverse cultural blend, as well as being bordered and influenced in a footballing sense by the Italians, Spanish, Germans, Dutch, Belgians you have the african and north african influences too.

Lastly, is the economic circumstances, you have the third most abundant football gene pool floating around in a very impoverished league. A top French player playing for Lyon or Marseille will probably earn about 20-30k a week tops. Ayew can earn more playing for Swansea than he can for Marseille.

What you have is perfect social/economic/football shitstorm. Reasonably intelligent, technically and tactically decent footballers who don't earn enough.

Lemon · Feb 8, 2017

Hercules said:
Isn't it remarkable that i said how highly rated and connected he is, from what I know and heard and got laughed out and negged by a couple posters.

Mate, I got pelters for saying the squad looked exhausted (even though spates of injuries followed), they didn't stop even when Poch said the same...

Bus-Conductor · Feb 8, 2017

Not sure you'll read this as you have possibly put me on ignore, but here goes:

Trix said:
I'm sure he did have a part to play in some of them, just not as much as you might think. Number crunching is useful in the modern game but it's only a top up to good old fashioned using your eyes scouting.

To be fair, whatever I've managed to read or listen to analysts/scouts saying (The Scout7 podcast is a good recent discovery - Rob McKensie - who is an "analyst" as well as scout I think - was in there recently talking about scouting Janssen for Spurs) most analysts say the same - that they appreciate it is just part of the process, and exists to supplement the other facets of scouting (watching players and doing background etc).

Trix said:
The manager has the final say in who comes in, so in that sense he is heading things up. We have plenty of scouts watching plenty of players all the time, nothing at all has changed, except how the data is being crunched.

Is it possible to elaborate on this Trix ? How has the process changed ? Genuinely fascinated.

jonathanhotspur · Feb 8, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Been saying the same for years.

And there I was, labouring under the impression that Ligue 1 was shite.

Bus-Conductor · Feb 8, 2017

jonathanhotspur said:
And there I was, labouring under the impression that Ligue 1 was shite.

I dare say if you watched a mid-low table game in ligue 1 you'd not be thrilled with the "entertainment" in the classic English sense, but if you can suck the merit from what is often a youthful, energetic, tactically diverse game of chess, invariably lacking in fully developed uber star player appeal but high on energy and emphasis on teamwork, you'd survive it.

danielneeds · Feb 8, 2017

Hercules said:
Isn't it remarkable that i said how highly rated and connected he is, from what I know and heard and got laughed out and negged by a couple posters.

It was just a joke, fella. Why so touchy?

Hercules · Feb 8, 2017

danielneeds said:
It was just a joke, fella. Why so touchy?

I can fella. In doses lol. I react when i get spam, and discrediting remarks

AdamYoung · Feb 8, 2017

Is the consensus that Hitchen replaces Mitchell and therefore the positions are filled or Hitchen has replaced Mackenzie/Broomfield and we have added someone else to replace Mitchell?

Shadydan · Feb 8, 2017

Hercules said:
Isn't it remarkable that i said how highly rated and connected he is, from what I know and heard and got laughed out and negged by a couple posters.

Because people don't take you seriously, I think that's your problem here.

JJetset · Feb 8, 2017

AdamYoung said:
Is the consensus that Hitchen replaces Mitchell and therefore the positions are filled or Hitchen has replaced Mackenzie/Broomfield and we have added someone else to replace Mitchell?

No that's not the case. It will all come out when it's official.

jonathanhotspur · Feb 8, 2017

The Scarecrow said:
Stambouli wasn't that bad imo. We even managed to sell him at a profit.

The guy was unable to run.

AdamYoung · Feb 8, 2017

JJetset said:
No that's not the case. It will all come out when it's official.

Thanks for the info!

sammyj · Feb 8, 2017

Don't forget Kenny jacket

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