TheHood
.................................
- Jan 17, 2006
- 1,671
- 2,104
The signed him on loan In the January window which is the beggars window. Different scenario come the summer.
Player Watch : Vincent Janssen
- Thread starter tototoner
- Start date
The signed him on loan In the January window which is the beggars window. Different scenario come the summer.
muppetman
Well-Known Member
- Jul 29, 2011
- 9,086
- 25,354
Surprised so many are against him, I think perhaps some have unrealistic expectations of what is achievable for someone trying to slot into our system.
I think he will improve as he gets used to playing with Son, Dele, Eriksen etc and they get used to him. There was one against Watford where Trippier flashed it across the goalmouth and he wasn't there - as he gets to know the players he will know what Trippier will do and so already be moving to get into place.
I like him and I think he occupies defenders which leaves space for Son, Dele etc if nothing else. Hope we persevere.
I think he will improve as he gets used to playing with Son, Dele, Eriksen etc and they get used to him. There was one against Watford where Trippier flashed it across the goalmouth and he wasn't there - as he gets to know the players he will know what Trippier will do and so already be moving to get into place.
I like him and I think he occupies defenders which leaves space for Son, Dele etc if nothing else. Hope we persevere.
lol
Well-Known Member
- Aug 31, 2008
- 6,652
- 6,083
i think he has the brain to become a good striker, seeing how he wins positions like the chance he had, where he rolled over the defender for a shot. that should have been a goal but gomes did well to keep it out.
alot of people says if he had better instinct he would have scored more, true to a certain extent, but i would say his fitness played a bigger part.
i feel his body could not react as fast as his brain could, so he always reach the balls a fraction late. having the fitness to actually do that plays a huge part. on top of that i dont think he'd ever played with a squad that plays with such speed during attack/counter attack.
give him one full off season and i think he will improve by alot
alot of people says if he had better instinct he would have scored more, true to a certain extent, but i would say his fitness played a bigger part.
i feel his body could not react as fast as his brain could, so he always reach the balls a fraction late. having the fitness to actually do that plays a huge part. on top of that i dont think he'd ever played with a squad that plays with such speed during attack/counter attack.
give him one full off season and i think he will improve by alot
Monkey boy
Well-Known Member
- Jun 18, 2011
- 6,436
- 17,139
As my old PE teacher said to me once after I had missed a similar chance. Boy, I could have put that in with my cock. mmmm yeah, cheers sir
thebenjamin
Well-Known Member
- Jul 1, 2008
- 12,302
- 39,050
Is it ok to expect a decent first touch? Or to be able to score a goal from a yard?
TheVoiceofReason
Well-Known Member
- Feb 5, 2005
- 6,330
- 15,715
As my old PE teacher said to me once after I had missed a similar chance. Boy, I could have put that in with my cock. mmmm yeah, cheers sir
With a hard or soft cock? Soft cock would be extremely difficult I would imagine
Khilari
Plumber. Sort of.
- Jun 19, 2008
- 3,461
- 5,287
I think he'll be better next term and should stay but depending on who else is available, I suspect we may well sell him if we find an upgrade. No room for sentiments here.
LexingtonSpurs
Well-Known Member
- Aug 27, 2013
- 13,456
- 39,042
I am just looking at it through a different prism.
You see positions: "striker" and think "goal scorer", thus a striker who does not score is worthless.
Instead of positions, I see roles. So, instead of thinking as our front 3 or 4 as a striker and Attacking Midfielders, I think of them all as a collective group of attacking players, with different responsibilities. Those roles include "scorer" "creator" "player-off-the-ball" and "hold-up player" those roles can be covered any number of ways by the attacking players, as long as someone is playing each role.
Kane can obviously fill more roles than Janssen right now, but that does not mean Janssen can not be effective performing one of the roles, while Dele, Eriksen, and Son play the remaining roles.
The other thing that stands out for me is that he was called out very publicly by Poch, and he has clearly responded to the criticism in the right way. I think the goals will come, and as long as he keeps filling a role, and working hard, there will be a place for him.
jonathanhotspur
Loose Cannon
- Jun 28, 2009
- 10,292
- 8,250
With you all the way, ralph. He has the agility of a scarecrow.
muppetman
Well-Known Member
- Jul 29, 2011
- 9,086
- 25,354
Decent first touch?
https://streamable.com/5un7e
I personally think people have been spoilt by Kane and now think he is the standard and therefore why can't we get someone similar? Kane is a freak, he'd cost us easily £50M in today's market but we should just go and buy someone similar on our budget - behave!
millsey
Official SC Numpty
- Dec 8, 2005
- 8,735
- 11,504
Unrealistic expectations? If you has said at the start of the season after we bought him he would score not a single prem goal bar penalty and one goal in all comps, what would you have said? This for the 2nd best team in the league.
millsey
Official SC Numpty
- Dec 8, 2005
- 8,735
- 11,504
No, just someone that can score a few goals. Son has 18 this season
muppetman
Well-Known Member
- Jul 29, 2011
- 9,086
- 25,354
I think he will score a few goals - other than pens. I also think he will be much better next season with more exposure to the rest of the team.
Out of interest, if you'd sell him, who would you replace him with?
Hoops
Well-Known Member
- Mar 15, 2015
- 3,650
- 6,363
I hate that response. The club has lots of scouts. I dont care who they bring in as long as they can score goals.
EQP
EQP
- Sep 1, 2013
- 8,022
- 29,846
Here's the thing though....those same scouts looked at Janssen....so really who would you look to bring?
Shadydan
Well-Known Member
- Jul 7, 2012
- 38,247
- 104,143
Hoops
Well-Known Member
- Mar 15, 2015
- 3,650
- 6,363
And brought in Alli, Dier Lloris, Alderweireld etc....They are allowed a mistake dont you think?
SpursDave88
Well-Known Member
- Aug 31, 2012
- 2,193
- 5,831
Let's ne honest here, he was a punt and it hasn't worked. I'm don't know if we need to sell him next season. But would anyone be happy if we went in to next season without buying another striker???
Shadydan
Well-Known Member
- Jul 7, 2012
- 38,247
- 104,143
Well that's kinda the point...Bringing in a striker who will be able to hit the ground running isn't just a formality. If people struggle to name a replacement to Janssen who is garanteed to be better do you think our scouts will find it easy to replace him?
