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yankspurs

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Sports editor: "Any news on Spurs transfers"?
Hack: No nothing, not a thing, nada!
Sports editor: Right run the Barkley wage story again, it ain't true but it'll get them clicking.
Ah so since its a negative about the Spurs/Barkley transfer saga, its not true? Is that how this works? We probably leaked the damn thing. It's likely true.
 

Kiedis

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Ah so since its a negative about the Spurs/Barkley transfer saga, its not true? Is that how this works? We probably leaked the damn thing. It's likely true.

Wouldn't make sense for Barkley to suddenly start demanding to be our top earner two weeks after having denied those claims though.
 

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worcestersauce

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Ah so since its a negative about the Spurs/Barkley transfer saga, its not true? Is that how this works? We probably leaked the damn thing. It's likely true.
It was bollocks three weeks ago and it is bollocks now.
People keep saying we have leeked this but for the life of me can't see why we would want to, I know you would like to believe any negative story about Barkley in the hope that he doesn't come but I am sceptical about all paper stories not just negative ones.
 

yankspurs

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Wouldn't make sense for Barkley to suddenly start demanding to be our top earner two weeks after having denied those claims though.
So we lied to the press and rehashed an old story despite it being in the Liverpool press for a while? Why would we do that? It's likely true and was leaked to get Barkley and his agent to come off it. But also to get the fan base ready if they dont come off it
 

Kiedis

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So we lied to the press and rehashed an old story despite it being in the Liverpool press for a while? Why would we do that? It's likely true and was leaked to get Barkley and his agent to come off it. But also to get the fan base ready if they dont come off it

I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense.

The Barkley camp cathegorically denied the notion that he expects to be our top earner and even threw in a line about him wanting to work with Poch after getting glowing reviews from our England contingent.

I'm just not seeing why that stance would change.
 

yanno

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The only reason I can see that Barkley's stance may have changed is if there's been an approach by one of manure, chavski or the goons, and they've offered him £140k.

His agent may then have tried his luck with us, and asked if we'll match that offer despite already having terms agreed in principle at a significantly lower figure.

The leak to the hacks would then constitute Levy telling the agent to go whistle (to steal a buffoon's phrase), and confirming that Spurs wouldn't be upping their salary offer.
 

1882andallthat

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As has been said previously though - the £p/w Spurs are reported to pay is never the end of the deal with Levy contracts - players can and do earn far more than their basic wage through a generous and complex series of bonuses and incentives, both personal and club-wide.

Barkley won't get anything close to £100k p/w basic, but he will be offered a set of bonus payments which will allow him to almost certainly earn more than that if he does well.

All this talk of our wage structure restricting the players we can buy is simply not accurate. If a player is willing to work hard and achieve things at Spurs he will be very well rewarded financially.
I am not suggesting that Barkley will actually be offered £100k per week, what is probably closer to the truth is that whatever he is asking for does not or may not be matched by what we are offering, bonus payments and incentives included.

I would much prefer it if your theory is correct and I am indeed inaccurate because fundamentally there would be no fault with our current wage structure, and within this statement I include a wage structure that incorporates potential performance bonuses, if my theory is correct then it does need addressing going forward and it is currently a cause for concern, but I do not believe that our lack of any signings thus far into the window is entirely down to our own choosing. It would be a big concern if our wage structure inclusive of performance bonuses is not even at parity or above Everton's structure, I'm not myself suggesting that this is the case because I am not in possession of the facts and inside knowledge, but lets speculate for one moment, if it actually is the case, it would surely have to be a cause for concern.

I am not suggesting that we could in any way shape or form match Man City Chelsea or even Man Utd's wage structure because those figures are clearly astronomical, but it needs to at least be near the rest who are competing at or near the top.

I guess the proof in the pudding will arrive sooner rather than later when the window closes and when we can then truly assess it. I would like to at least hazard a guess that we nearly all agree that we do need one or two new quality additions for squad depth and at first team level. (I don't mean mercenaries who are demanding sky high wages, but it's clear that they have to be of a reasonable quality to be able to stand a chance of hitting the ground running). If these much needed additions do not materialise then it adds unwanted credence to my theory or causes of concern, it already is a cause for concern that these additions have not happened already, if it then correlates to us not being quite prepared to improve on our points gain during the first 6 to 8 games this season when compared to previous seasons, again we will have to wait and see on that one.
 

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So we lied to the press and rehashed an old story despite it being in the Liverpool press for a while? Why would we do that? It's likely true and was leaked to get Barkley and his agent to come off it. But also to get the fan base ready if they dont come off it

Where's your evidence we leaked it?
 

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dace

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Maybe Levy has an agreement with Sky for a transfer deadline story !
Sky are love a last minute deal as does our Daniel ....
 

kaz Hirai

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Can't imagine he'd ask for 100k or more. He's inferior to that lot below who can play where he does and I'm sure most if not all of them are below 100k

Eriksen
Alli
Son
Lamela
Dembele
 

Tucker

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Can't imagine he'd ask for 100k or more. He's inferior to that lot below who can play where he does and I'm sure most if not all of them are below 100k

Eriksen
Alli
Son
Lamela
Dembele

At the risk of starting a debate about Daniel Levy and Spurs ongoing wage structure...That would be a valid argument if we paid our players the market value. Unfortunately we don't, and we've had ITK to say as much.

It's wishful thinking to expect incoming players to be happy to come to us and earn less if they have the option to go elsewhere and earn more. Some players could be tempted by the lure of Poch, but most will have their agents pushing them towards people with more financial clout than us.

Look at Zaha, apparently he was one of our main targets, but he was happy to sign a new contract at palace because they would pay him more.

Saying that, I think this whole 140k story is just click bait bollocks. I expect us to get Barkley by the end of the window.
 

kaz Hirai

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At the risk of starting a debate about Daniel Levy and Spurs ongoing wage structure...That would be a valid argument if we paid our players the market value. Unfortunately we don't, and we've had ITK to say as much.

It's wishful thinking to expect incoming players to be happy to come to us and earn less if they have the option to go elsewhere and earn more. Some players could be tempted by the lure of Poch, but most will have their agents pushing them towards people with more financial clout than us.

Look at Zaha, apparently he was one of our main targets, but he was happy to sign a new contract at palace because they would pay him more.

Saying that, I think this whole 140k story is just click bait bollocks. I expect us to get Barkley by the end of the window.

Well he wouldn't be interested in spurs at all if he wanted 'market value wages.' Must be well known by all that we are tight.
So in that case where's the interest, must be 1 sided.
If he signed he'd be getting sissoko money. Least he came off the back of impressing on the world stage.
Barkley has really done fack all apart from being English.
Never scored that much, never assisted that much, never done much for England, never won anything, just potential and that tag is wearing out quick at his age
 

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People keep saying we have leeked this but for the life of me can't see why we would want to...
I guess that there's a possibility that it's a message to the squad (and their agents) that we won't be breaking our wage structure to get Barkley. The thought that there might be upcoming wage inflation at the club could perhaps be one of the things holding up Toby's new contract.
 

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I guess that there's a possibility that it's a message to the squad (and their agents) that we won't be breaking our wage structure to get Barkley. The thought that there might be upcoming wage inflation at the club could perhaps be one of the things holding up Toby's new contract.
Precisely this, it's not necessarily anything to do with Barkley, we may have players that need assurance, plus it warns future targets not to mess about.

To others, I think the reason people assume a leak is that all journalists relating the story seemed to have links to Spurs and all release the info around the same time.
 

worcestersauce

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I guess that there's a possibility that it's a message to the squad (and their agents) that we won't be breaking our wage structure to get Barkley. The thought that there might be upcoming wage inflation at the club could perhaps be one of the things holding up Toby's new contract.
I guess that is possible, I really couldn't see a reason directly connected to the Ross Barkley situation.
I think there will be upcoming wage inflation by the way, once we are in our spanking new stadium it is going to be inevitable though funnily enough I think Daniel Levy will accept that, you can't buck the market and he'll know that.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I always thought it could be tricky getting Barkley to come in on less than Eriksen's 70k-80k a week. He just doesnt fit into our wage structure as it stands currently IMO.
 

nickspurs

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I always thought it could be tricky getting Barkley to come in on less than Eriksen's 70k-80k a week. He just doesnt fit into our wage structure as it stands currently IMO.
I think it's more complicated than a basic wage though. I know the press talk about simple basic wages (cos it's easy) but with bonuses it's very different. I'm not saying that we're paying £150K all around but I suspect the ability to earn way more for our players is much bigger than most clubs (and probably the trigger points/thresholds feel quite achievable. As a player you'd consider all of that when assessing your package. Fairly sure an ITK said as much this window.
 
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