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Gb160

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This is all very well and good but we arnt going to replace loris on the back of it...
In the Hugo thread people are saying we should've bought Pickford and replaced him.
And also that first goal was his fault as well, he should've saved it....it's funny stuff.
 

Gb160

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Yep it's annoying and probably we are all pissed off by it but at some point this year we will all be bigging lloris up for saving our bacon, it has to be balanced off with remembering that.
It won't though mate, the people giving him shit will be the same ones kissing his arse later on in the season...it's either feast or famine for some.
 

Gbspurs

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Wanyama gave the ball away non stop today so its fitting that it was him giving it away that cost us the game. Frustrating match.
 

hellava_tough

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A very closely contested game with both sides going at it and a silly mistake at the end giving them the 3 pts

Just one of those days to be honest

Time to focus on Burnley
 

riggi

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In the Hugo thread people are saying we should've bought Pickford and replaced him.
And also that first goal was his fault as well, he should've saved it....it's funny stuff.

He's the least of our worries.
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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what was it like queuing for the trains after the match - any issues with both sets of fans all together?

Didn't see any trouble myself. The trains weren't bad but long queues to get in to the station. Wembley Park station is quite well run though so once you're in the station, you're on a (not very packed) train and away. Police were letting people in to the station in bursts, to manage it
 

riggi

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nugsie

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Marcos Alonso.

In 2011 he Killed a 19 year old girl by driving with nearly twice the legal limit of alcohol in his system.

He was driving nearly twice the speed limit.

He payed €60,000 as a fine and was served a 3 year driving ban.
 
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Tiberius Gracchus

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Agree on both points. Alli is young and will be inconsistent but I do think Poch needs to sub him some times. He shouldn't be regarded as untouchable at the moment.

I didn't think Dele was too bad, him and Kane (plus Son when he came on, late) looked like the only Ines able to create anything. Dele usually gets more space because our fullbacks pull defenders out of the way. But Dele was surrounded every time he got the ball and at least tried to do positive things with it
 

spursfan77

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Thoughts on the refs performance?

I thought it was poor. Not the worst I've seen but he missed continuous fouls by them and Jan was lucky not to get a red from where I was sitting. No idea what it looked like on tv.
 

lukespurs7

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Just got back from the game, ultimately gutting and not a good start to Wembley but performance was fairly good, if we'd taken our chances and not made mistakes we'd not have lost that.

However...I did notice a few real weaknesses which were apparent and I'm hoping Poch realises this and any further new signings address these:
1) Pace: We've all been banging on about it,especially the need for a Mane type wide forward of real quality to stretch teams. Now while I'd welcome a player like that I'm not sure it's vital as our gameplay vs Chelsea worked reasonably well we just weren't clinical, but where we did miss pace was from our fullbacks, it's hard to admit it but we missed Walker and Rose's athleticism. If we're going to play with 3 at the back or one of the DM's dropping in then we need our full backs to get in behind teams and too often Davies and Trippier would stop, pass back or cross. I like both of them but i think we clearly need to replace walker and an Aurier type RB would be ideal. If not then we really do need to look at a pacey attacking option who is closer to the first XI than sissoko or GKN.
2) Trippiers height: From their goal kicks, or our goal kicks wide or our diagonal switches of play if it was lofted Trippier had no chance vs Alonso and we lost possession, one thing which was underrated was how Walker used to win a lot of these header duels, sometimes even doing a flick on to start an attack. Trippier has a good delivery but this lack of height given how we play can be a weakness at times, I saw how Dier kept switching with him to try and win the header.
3) Dier : I love Eric Dier, brilliant character and constantly improving as a player however he got the run around from Kante and Bakayoko today, he's not got much pace and he's not amazing on the ball, sure he's a decent DM but with him and Wanyama there (who uncharacteristically had an awful game by his standards) this made us a Little predictable and slow.
4) Dembele replacement : Not sure if The plan would be for Barkley to cover AM and Moussa but if he's just for AM if he get him then I think we maybe need another CM possibly next summer if Winks doesn't step up another level.

All in all, a very disappointing and frustrating result, it's a shame also as now the 'Wembley whoodoo/curse' will carry on in the media, today was a big chance to 'end' that but take that away and also the fact we hate Chelsea, they are last years champions and hazard aside that was actually their best team, we dominated them for most of the match and one piece of quality and a mistake from us has given them the win, I'm afraid that is premier league football for you against any top team, we had 15+ corners and 18 shots, we hit the post and their keeper made some good saves but ultimately if you don't take your chances you can lose games vs top top sides and Chelsea I'm afraid are a top top side and are very well drilled, it was always going to be a close game, last seasons was also but we got the first goal and in games like that when we both defend so well the first goal is vital.

That aside I hope Poch has realised these weaknesses and that any new signings address these. I'm sure he has and will but if not these small things could be the difference between us challenging for the title again and going far in the CL and coming 5-7th and going out in CL group stages.

We can move on from today and hopefully can beat burnley to get a win under our belt at Wembley next weekend but we do need to realise a few weaknesses which Chelsea exposed today.
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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Marcos Alonso.

In 2001 he Killed a 19 year old girl by driving with nearly twice the legal limit of alcohol in his system.

He was driving nearly twice the speed limit.

He payed €60,000 as a fine and was served a 3 year driving ban.

In 2001 when he was 11?
 

spursfan77

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Not once did we try a deep cross to Alli on the far post. Scored 3 goals against them last season doing that yet why didn't we do it once today?
 
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