The Mauricio Pochettino thread

Hazardousman · Dec 3, 2017

Bobbins said:
I would hardly regard my post as a “ridiculous low” - I’m quite happy with being a consistent top 6 side - it’s much better than where we were for the first 25 years of my life supporting Spurs - but I would really like us to make significant efforts to win the domestic cups as often as possible.

Not sure what’s so wrong about that?

Also, to add another point, I always wonder what people mean when they say they don't care about trophies or that trophies aren't a priority, it's the one thing I disagree with Poch on when he says that you can still be a great team and not win trophies.

It comes back to simple logic really, say if the PL removed any numerical value for league positions, there was no such thing as 1st, 2nd or 3rd, would any of us even bother watching football?

If trophies didn't exist and teams didn't win anything ever, would we even watch football?

We all watch in the hope, that one day, our team will win something, that's what keeps us glued, it's often the hope that kills you lol!

ebzrascal · Dec 3, 2017

LexingtonSpurs said:
Honestly - I don't think it is that simple. Just like its not as simple as Liverpool buying more defenders.

Tactically, we spend too much time standing still - not enough movement on or off the ball. That is a tactical issue that Poch must address - not a lack of players issue. We need to by quicker (not necessarily faster) in the attacking end - moving the ball, and making runs to pull defenders out of position.

I agree we need to be more aggressive in attack more players need to run from deep and go beyond Kane to get on the end of through balls... Dembele Winks Lamela Eriksen all need to be taking risks with forward runs.. to be fair Alli and Sissoko already do this.. Kane and Son also need to anticipate crosses better as we miss countless chances when the ball is flashed across the six yard box

ebzrascal · Dec 3, 2017

Hazardousman said:
Also, to add another point, I always wonder what people mean when they say they don't care about trophies or that trophies aren't a priority, it's the one thing I disagree with Poch on when he says that you can still be a great team and not win trophies.

It comes back to simple logic really, say if the PL removed any numerical value for league positions, there was no such thing as 1st, 2nd or 3rd, would any of us even bother watching football?

If trophies didn't exist and teams didn't win anything ever, would we even watch football?

We all watch in the hope, that one day, our team will win something, that's what keeps us glued, it's often the hope that kills you lol!

I cannot agree the progression of the club depends on champions league especially when it comes to keeping players and recruiting top players. Domestic Cups are nice days out but they won`t grow the Fan base to fill a 60000 seater stadium or get us bigger commercial deals..

Plus who wants to play on thursday nights?

Deleted member 27995 · Dec 3, 2017

I'll continue to have a chuckle at the musings of those who have accepted Spurs longterm 'position' in the league then for the foreseeable future.

Thing is, if this position has been accepted, why the hell are so many people complaining?

:ROFLMAO:

am_yisrael_chai · Dec 3, 2017

shelfboy68 said:
Brilliant brilliant post totally agree the only way I can see us compete with those two is if enic sell to mega wealthy Arabs, otherwise like you said we hit our ceiling the last two seasons and failed to win anything which is so us.
The new stadium whilst is very welcomed will only make us another version of arsenal which is EPL and CL are out of reach but 4th spot is what we play for every year our holy grail as it were.

I’m sorry but that is just nonsense. Firstly, the goons could compete with the Manc clubs if their owner wasn’t bleeding the club dry. Secondly, we will in time have an NFL franchise which will put us on a different planet financially to any of our competition. Of course the risk is at that point we aren’t bought by oil money but by a US private equity outfit that looks to bleed us dry too.

tiger666 · Dec 3, 2017

am_yisrael_chai said:
we will in time have an NFL franchise which will put us on a different planet financially to any of our competition.

Eh?

Mr Pink · Dec 3, 2017

Fuck me, some of the comments in this thread go beyond negative, it's fucking sad.

One poor/tough spell after two fabulous seasons and all of a sudden, we're just top 6 contenders, we've missed our chance and it's time to accept it lol

How about getting behind the team, and watching us bounce back.

Look forward to revisiting this thread when we're flying high again lol

am_yisrael_chai · Dec 3, 2017

tiger666 said:
Eh?

What bit of that is difficult to understand ? We are building the only stadium in Europe that has been designed to meet NFL requirements. We have a contract to host a number of NFL games. The NFL want a franchise outside of the US. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the franchise will be located at the new stadium. Take a look at the revenues in NFL and you’ll see how it dwarfs the EPL.

tiger666 · Dec 3, 2017

am_yisrael_chai said:
What bit of that is difficult to understand ? We are building the only stadium in Europe that has been designed to meet NFL requirements. We have a contract to host a number of NFL games. The NFL want a franchise outside of the US. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the franchise will be located at the new stadium. Take a look at the revenues in NFL and you’ll see how it dwarfs the EPL.

You're assuming an awful lot to think we're going to have finances on a different planet to the likes of City and Chelsea.

LexingtonSpurs · Dec 3, 2017

am_yisrael_chai said:
What bit of that is difficult to understand ? We are building the only stadium in Europe that has been designed to meet NFL requirements. We have a contract to host a number of NFL games. The NFL want a franchise outside of the US. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the franchise will be located at the new stadium. Take a look at the revenues in NFL and you’ll see how it dwarfs the EPL.

yeah, those are NFL revenues - not Spurs' revenues...

And, as I recall, the NFL negotiators already scoffed at Levy once, he is not in their league.

The NFL deal will help pay some of the stadium, but will not significantly impact Spurs operating budget...

am_yisrael_chai · Dec 3, 2017

LexingtonSpurs said:
yeah, those are NFL revenues - not Spurs' revenues...

And, as I recall, the NFL negotiators already scoffed at Levy once, he is not in their league.

The NFL deal will help pay some of the stadium, but will not significantly impact Spurs operating budget...

Time will tell. I’m not a huge Levy fan but one thing you can’t accuse him of is not understanding the numbers and he hasn’t materially increased the cost of the stadium to accommodate the NFL to see no return on that investment.

yankspurs · Dec 3, 2017

We've lost our edge. Our attack is not nearly as quick as it once was. We're not pressing. It's all gone a bit stale at the moment. We need to freshen up the team and the rotation. Same FB rotation make it obvious who is going to start what games which makes it very easy to plan for. Eriksen and Dele's horrible form make it worse. Switch up the FB rotation, drop Dele and/or Eriksen for a game or 2. Promote Edwards to the first team. Add some life. Do something to change it up.

Bus-Conductor · Dec 3, 2017

LexingtonSpurs said:
yeah, those are NFL revenues - not Spurs' revenues...

And, as I recall, the NFL negotiators already scoffed at Levy once, he is not in their league.

The NFL deal will help pay some of the stadium, but will not significantly impact Spurs operating budget...

What do you think we can realistically expect to make from the NFL tie up, at the various stages ?

coys200 · Dec 3, 2017

Don’t think we would ever be an NFL franchise. Although I think it’s likely we would host one. Obviously there’s a massive difference between owning the franchise and just renting out your ground. Still it would financially be very lucrative and hugely increase profile in states. I could see us being the 2nd biggest club revenue wise in years to come. But still behind city in the grand scheme with their nation wealth, and if Roman gets tired of Chelsea we could leapfrog them. Would leave us 3rd overall behind united and city.

coys200 · Dec 3, 2017

Apparently The average NFL stadium rent is £2m which seems small.
Average franchise is worth £1bn
Average revenue £200-250m

Maybe The eventual plan is to sell us to someone who already has an NFL franchise. As said I’m sure there is a bigger plan. Levy wouldn’t have gone to all that trouble to make a few million on rent.

LexingtonSpurs · Dec 4, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
What do you think we can realistically expect to make from the NFL tie up, at the various stages ?

I don't know any of the details - but I expect that Levy is thinking bigger picture here. He wants to generate as much revenue from the stadium - and surrounding development - which I think ENIC still has a large development plan to exploit in the surrounding property. And the more often the stadium is used for big events, the more Spurs can get for the naming rights.

But, it also depends on what the revenue share looks like. I assume the NFL wants all the ticket revenue - which would be in the neighborhood of £7M per game day. I think I read that ticket sales at Wembley were £10M with an average cost of £130/ticket. So maybe something around £1-2M per game - but that would also include the use of Spurs practice facilities during the week.

NFL contributed £12M towards the construction costs - presumably for the construction of the larger dressing rooms NFL teams will use.

steve · Dec 4, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
What do you think we can realistically expect to make from the NFL tie up, at the various stages ?

I see the NFL tie up as a way to increase the naming rights sponsorship and not a lot else but I don't know much about it.

riggi · Dec 4, 2017

A part of me dies everytime I remember this NFL stuff.

Yakflange · Dec 4, 2017

riggi said:
A part of me dies everytime I remember this NFL stuff.

Why?

If it's another revenue stream to ensure we can keep competing with richer clubs, what have you got against it?

In an ideal world, money wouldn't matter in football, but the sad reality is that it does and we have to do everything we can to compete.

riggi · Dec 4, 2017

Yakflange said:
Why?

If it's another revenue stream to ensure we can keep competing with richer clubs, what have you got against it?

In an ideal world, money wouldn't matter in football, but the sad reality is that it does and we have to do everything we can to compete.

Bingo.

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