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shelfboy68

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There is too much panic going around, we could pick up 12 points over this holiday period. We're only 3 points off 4th place ffs.

But if we win Tom we could go fifth a point behind Liverpool should the score stay as it is which is not bad considering we are not really at the race' this year.
 

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A tactically 'very poor' coach got us a third and two second place finishes in one of the most competitive and cash rich leagues in the world?

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Ah that's unfair. . He has a point.. some of the substitutions made by Poch are consistantly very poor.. in addition our record against the top six is pretty abysmal.. knowone is denying the good work he has done but there is plenty of room for improvement aswell
 

Khilari

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Ah that's unfair. . He has a point.. some of the substitutions made by Poch are consistantly very poor.. in addition our record against the top six is pretty abysmal.. knowone is denying the good work he has done but there is plenty of room for improvement aswell
Do you think Pochettino is very poor?
If so, please can you tell me who you feel are examples of abysmal, poor, ok, good, very good and superb.

I think some fans have lost the ability to be objective. Things don’t always have to be “brilliant” or “terrible”.

Suggesting Pochettino is very poor is surely just laughable?
 

Diarmuid

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Do you think Pochettino is very poor?
If so, please can you tell me who you feel are examples of abysmal, poor, ok, good, very good and superb.

I think some fans have lost the ability to be objective. Things don’t always have to be “brilliant” or “terrible”.

Suggesting Pochettino is very poor is surely just laughable?
I'm not saying he is poor.. I'm saying some of his subs at times are poor..huge difference between the two.. as I'm sure u kmow.. I'm not saying things are brilliant or terrible.. a lot is very good and there are a couple of aspects which could be improved upon
 

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I'm not saying he is poor.. I'm saying some of his subs at times are poor..huge difference between the two.. as I'm sure u kmow.. I'm not saying things are brilliant or terrible.. a lot is very good and there are a couple of aspects which could be improved upon
are his subs poor because he chose the wrong subs, the subs didnt improve the game, the subs didnt perform personally or he brought the subs into the club?
 

Diarmuid

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are his subs poor because he chose the wrong subs, the subs didnt improve the game, the subs didnt perform personally or he brought the subs into the club?
A lot of the time he leaves it very late to make changes....having said that the options available to him aren't exactly overwhelming...also u have to question some of the purchases.. I would like to see more of the academy players.. they can't have any less of an impact than the likes of nkoudou njie, Janseen. .
 

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I also wonder about people who think that selling Rose, Dier, Alderwiereld and Alli is a good idea and a way to move the club forward.
Seriously dude :eek:
Still, all about onions innit so whatever.
Ideally you wouldn't want to..however if City have been in Toby's peoples ear..Madrid in Deli..Utd in Dier & Rose. .what do you do..u either pay them & compete in transfer market which means ripping up your longterm plan for club.. refuse to sell & have players not fully 100% committed.. I don't want to see them go but if it was a choice of Poch or said players..I know what I'd be doing
 

milli.com

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A tactically 'very poor' coach got us a third and two second place finishes in one of the most competitive and cash rich leagues in the world?

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Ok I accept I might of been a bit harsh, I put that down to having a few that night.
But I still stand by my belief that tactically he is average to poor.
In the 5 seasons before Poch came we were 4th twice 5th twice and 6th so we were hardly relegation material.
A lot of fans talk about money spent and I agree Levy seems like his hard work.
But and this is a big But if you look at the tools that Poch has to work with he has some good Players.
I Think Kane, Son, Alderwereld (When Fit) , and Rose (When Fit ) would get into the Man City First Team.
Wanyama, Vertonghen, Ali, Sanchez, Ericksen and Aurier are good enough to get plenty game time over a full season for Man City.
Harry kane was free been the golden boot winner for the last two season 20 plus goals every full season and I would'nt bet against him doing it this year how much is he worth 150 mil minimum.

Is Poch a genius or is he the lucky Person to be Manager when Tottenham get their first World Class Striker in Ages?
 

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Ok I accept I might of been a bit harsh, I put that down to having a few that night.
But I still stand by my belief that tactically he is average to poor.
In the 5 seasons before Poch came we were 4th twice 5th twice and 6th so we were hardly relegation material.
A lot of fans talk about money spent and I agree Levy seems like his hard work.
But and this is a big But if you look at the tools that Poch has to work with he has some good Players.
I Think Kane, Son, Alderwereld (When Fit) , and Rose (When Fit ) would get into the Man City First Team.
Wanyama, Vertonghen, Ali, Sanchez, Ericksen and Aurier are good enough to get plenty game time over a full season for Man City.
Harry kane was free been the golden boot winner for the last two season 20 plus goals every full season and I would'nt bet against him doing it this year how much is he worth 150 mil minimum.

Is Poch a genius or is he the lucky Person to be Manager when Tottenham get their first World Class Striker in Ages?

Kane before pochettino was not that special. Kane has continuously talked about what a huge influence pochettino has been on his emergence as a top striker.
 

milli.com

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A tactically 'very poor' coach got us a third and two second place finishes in one of the most competitive and cash rich leagues in the world?

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Under Poch 5th 3rd and 2nd
 

SugarRay

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But surely Poch gets some credit for improving all them players bar Vertonghen? It’s not like he turned up and they were all here ripping it up. He brought in Toby Son and Wanyama

I think tactically Poch is still on the learning curve. He’s not fully settled. Someone who continuously reinvented himself as he went on over the years and was often criticised for lacking tactical nous was none other than Fergie himself. I think some coaches overcoach.
 

milli.com

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Kane before pochettino was not that special. Kane has continuously talked about what a huge influence pochettino has been on his emergence as a top striker.
Kane came in under Sherwood, Played about 10 games before he played his first full season under Poch so the majority of his 1st team career he has only played under Poch. As I said before I would definitely agree that Poch is a good coach that I am not questioning Rose especially for me improved vastly under Poch.
For me his Man Management and Tactics leave a lot to be questioned.
 

Khilari

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I'm not saying he is poor.. I'm saying some of his subs at times are poor..huge difference between the two.. as I'm sure u kmow.. I'm not saying things are brilliant or terrible.. a lot is very good and there are a couple of aspects which could be improved upon
Exactly. So you agree he’s not tactically “very poor”, which is an outrageous statement to make. He makes mistakes, like every single other manager in the world.
 

milli.com

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But surely Poch gets some credit for improving all them players bar Vertonghen? It’s not like he turned up and they were all here ripping it up. He brought in Toby Son and Wanyama

I think tactically Poch is still on the learning curve. He’s not fully settled. Someone who continuously reinvented himself as he went on over the years and was often criticised for lacking tactical nous was none other than Fergie himself. I think some coaches overcoach.
I disagree I think Vertonghen losted his mojo he was moaning like a girl anytime someone fouled him but I think when Poch Bought in Alderwereld He improved and he manned up. I think Poch is a good coach but to me average to poor Manager.
What irritates me the most he played players in crucial moments/games that are not up to the level. Anyone remember when Bentaleb and Mason were keeping Dembele out of centre midfield. for e.g. and Players who could contribute he would not play them.
 
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