The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[slartibartfast]

good morning

That gave me knob ache. I'm going to clean my bedroom

 

[muppetman]

Surely Pep can be a good coach and also be helped by the insane spending power City have?

Back on track - am reading his book and he has a couple of fairly (to me) wacky ideas - stuff about reading auras, but it's been interesting going so far. It's not the greatest piece of literature but is something to enjoy in short bursts.

I'm up to January at the moment and iirc the team are about to click and good things are going to start happening - hopefully this is an omen for us

 

[spursfan77]

Thoughts on this article?

The most interesting paragraph I've put underneath as I think it's something that could well be simmering under the surface. It's been touched on SC regularly over the last 2/3 months actually.

https://www.tifofootball.com/features/mauricio-pochettino-must-reclaim-tottenhams-culture/

"The solution is complex. Tactics, team-selections and transfers aren’t non-factors in this equation, but they are of less importance than the restoration of the previous culture. If that means allowing certain players to leave, then so be it. If that requires Spurs to rely on a particular type of pre-ego footballer – and to prioritise that virtue ahead of more obvious qualities – then that must be the way."

 

[longtimespur]

Thoughts on this article?

The most interesting paragraph I've put underneath as I think it's something that could well be simmering under the surface. It's been touched on SC regularly over the last 2/3 months actually.

https://www.tifofootball.com/features/mauricio-pochettino-must-reclaim-tottenhams-culture/

"The solution is complex. Tactics, team-selections and transfers aren’t non-factors in this equation, but they are of less importance than the restoration of the previous culture. If that means allowing certain players to leave, then so be it. If that requires Spurs to rely on a particular type of pre-ego footballer – and to prioritise that virtue ahead of more obvious qualities – then that must be the way."

I thought it was a good piece on THFC under Poch
It seems to offer a reasonable reason for our current poor performances. I feel our injuries to Toby and Victor have been a massive influence as well as some of our better players being off form.
Whether his summation of how to cure our problems is totally beneficial is open to conjecture.

I would back Poch if he wants to rid himself of those who no longer follow his philosophy and introduce our youth into the squad. Personally feel he has earned the right.

 

[whitelanefever]

Thoughts on this article?

The most interesting paragraph I've put underneath as I think it's something that could well be simmering under the surface. It's been touched on SC regularly over the last 2/3 months actually.

https://www.tifofootball.com/features/mauricio-pochettino-must-reclaim-tottenhams-culture/

"The solution is complex. Tactics, team-selections and transfers aren’t non-factors in this equation, but they are of less importance than the restoration of the previous culture. If that means allowing certain players to leave, then so be it. If that requires Spurs to rely on a particular type of pre-ego footballer – and to prioritise that virtue ahead of more obvious qualities – then that must be the way."

My thoughts are playing under Poccettinho is very demanding & this qroup of players have had 2 seasons of giving everything in pursuit of title..now if we had picked up a trophy of some sort then yes they would probably pick themselves up & go again giving everything..we didn't win a trophy & we see the drop off as a result..add in players recognising the signings we make aren't gonna bring us closer to winning lg...players want away... solution get rid of players that want to go & overhaul the squad..if that means a season out CL still do it..Poccettinho is the best thing that has happened this club in a longtime we have to find a way to give him more spending power if that means Rose, Toby, Dier & Deli been sold then do it

 

[spursfan77]

My thoughts are playing under Poccettinho is very demanding & this qroup of players have had 2 seasons of giving everything in pursuit of title..now if we had picked up a trophy of some sort then yes they would probably pick themselves up & go again giving everything..we didn't win a trophy & we see the drop off as a result..add in players recognising the signings we make aren't gonna bring us closer to winning lg...players want away... solution get rid of players that want to go & overhaul the squad..if that means a season out CL still do it..Poccettinho is the best thing that has happened this club in a longtime we have to find a way to give him more spending power if that means Rose, Toby, Dier & Deli been sold then do it

I do agree with you to a degree. It is a massive risk either way. Footballers dont need a reason to slack off at all we know that. But I struggle to see why they wouldn't want to run out at the new stadium, those that have been with us 3/4 years anyway. I know they aren't fans but they must be a little intregued to see what it would be like.

 

[ClonedFromSandrosBeard]

Thoughts on this article?

The most interesting paragraph I've put underneath as I think it's something that could well be simmering under the surface. It's been touched on SC regularly over the last 2/3 months actually.

https://www.tifofootball.com/features/mauricio-pochettino-must-reclaim-tottenhams-culture/

"The solution is complex. Tactics, team-selections and transfers aren’t non-factors in this equation, but they are of less importance than the restoration of the previous culture. If that means allowing certain players to leave, then so be it. If that requires Spurs to rely on a particular type of pre-ego footballer – and to prioritise that virtue ahead of more obvious qualities – then that must be the way."

This article effectively summed up my feelings on the team right now. The team looks like they've lost their sense of fun for the game and need to come together a bit.

It's why I can't understand wanting to keep Rose around. 'Taking a small backwards step to power a lunge forward' is a great way to put it. I just hope we fans can tolerate a season of (relative) transition.

 

[jurgen]

But if you take on a top team, do much better than your predecessors and beat the other billionaire clubs it is not an achievement. I just don't get it.

Erm Mancini and Pellegrini won the title with Shitty and Pep hasn’t yet so that’s a little over the top there...

 

[dontcallme]

Erm Mancini and Pellegrini won the title with Shitty and Pep hasn’t yet so that’s a little over the top there...

If you don'tsee the difference in the quality of play under City this season compared to under Mancini and Pelegrini then there is nothing left to say.

 

[Hakkz]

I do agree with you to a degree. It is a massive risk either way. Footballers dont need a reason to slack off at all we know that. But I struggle to see why they wouldn't want to run out at the new stadium, those that have been with us 3/4 years anyway. I know they aren't fans but they must be a little intregued to see what it would be like.

Well, some of them might be hoping that they will... dressed in United/city colours.

 

[slartibartfast]

My thoughts are playing under Poccettinho is very demanding & this qroup of players have had 2 seasons of giving everything in pursuit of title..now if we had picked up a trophy of some sort then yes they would probably pick themselves up & go again giving everything..we didn't win a trophy & we see the drop off as a result..add in players recognising the signings we make aren't gonna bring us closer to winning lg...players want away... solution get rid of players that want to go & overhaul the squad..if that means a season out CL still do it..Poccettinho is the best thing that has happened this club in a longtime we have to find a way to give him more spending power if that means Rose, Toby, Dier & Deli been sold then do it

Dont agree with that at all. First bit maybe. I think people are judging our form based on results rather than how we've been actually playing.
We've had a lot of poor results where we've absolutely outplayed and battered teams missing chance after chance after chance. I see no sign there of players 'dropping off' because of the last 2 seasons.
Its taken time to find our feet at Wembley and we have been decimated through injury.
Nobody could go what we've had to go through this season without a drop in form results wise.
Alli is not scoring but he's still putting a shift in imo. He's a bit off form granted. A few are but I don't think its for lack of trying.
I think far too many fans are looking for things that arent there on the back of the City performance.
We were always going to have a tough season while at Wembley.
Just 3 seasons ago we were thinking MAYBE we can sneak top 4, sneak being finishing 4th.
We had 2 very good seasons and now we seem to think we can play 38 away games and still get 2nd!!!
It was always going to be tough even without Rose, Lamela, Wanyama, Aldewiereld all being out for months on end.
Have faith.
This team thats given all it has, has want away players and is burnt out, which is kind of what you'r aluding to, just finished top of its CL group beating RM and BD ffs.
We aint done yet.
COYS

 

[ralvy]

Fuck, I swear the next step for some of you guys is to start washing Pep's genitals and drinking the left-over water afterwards.

 

[whitelanefever]

Dont agree with that at all. First bit maybe. I think people are building our form up based on results rather than how we've been actually playing.
We've had a lot of poor results where we've absolutely outplayed and battered teams missing chance after chance after chance. I see no sign there of players 'dropping off' because of the last 2 seasons.
Its taken time to find our feet at Wembley and we have been decimated through injury.
Nobody could go what we've had to go through this season without a drop in form results wise.
Alli is not scoring but he's still putting a shift in imo. He's a bit off form granted. A few are but I don't think its for lack of trying.
I think far too many fans are looking for things that arent there on the back of the City performance.
We were always going to have a tough season while at Wembley.
Just 3 seasons ago we were thinking MAYBE we can sneak top 4, sneak being finishing 4th.
We had 2 very good seasons and now we seem to think we can play 38 away games and still get 2nd!!!
It was always going to be tough even without Rose, Lamela, Wanyama, Aldewiereld all being out for months on end.
Have faith.
This team thats given all it has, has want away players and is burnt out, which is kind of what you'r aluding to, just finished top of its CL group beating RM and BD ffs.
We aint done yet.
COYS

I actually wonder if people are watching the same game we haven't been playing well at all in majority of games.. and worryingly we are getting out battled & clearly when City broke for their 4th the lack of effort to get back was visible..Rose stopped then jogged back..no wonder Poch hauled him off straight after..Dele hasn't been putting a shift in he's more interested in doing flicks & nutmegs that to me says he's playing for himself & not team.. Eriksen might be out of form but at least he is working hard..Dele needs to cop himself on

 

[Cravenspurs]

Fuck, I swear the next step for some of you guys is to start washing Pep's genitals and drinking the left-over water afterwards.

Pep doesn't sweat.

 

[whitelanefever]

I do agree with you to a degree. It is a massive risk either way. Footballers dont need a reason to slack off at all we know that. But I struggle to see why they wouldn't want to run out at the new stadium, those that have been with us 3/4 years anyway. I know they aren't fans but they must be a little intregued to see what it would be like.

It's a job at end of day...if you get paid more & have a better chance of success then it would turn any players head..they can always play at new stadium against us

 

[Khilari]

Poch Is a good coach, I do see an improvement in the players (I Put a lot of that down to him improving their fitness ) but TACTICALLY I think he is VERY POOR

A tactically 'very poor' coach got us a third and two second place finishes in one of the most competitive and cash rich leagues in the world?

Ok. Thanks for identifying yourself as another poster I can safely ignore.

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

Good stuff guys, very productive.

 

[slartibartfast]

A tactically 'very poor' coach got us a third and two second place finishes in one of the most competitive and cash rich leagues in the world?

Ok. Thanks for identifying yourself as another poster I can safely ignore.

Did he?
Shit I missed one lol.
I'm only jesting mate, sure it was a typo

 

[slartibartfast]

I actually wonder if people are watching the same game we haven't been playing well at all in majority of games.. and worryingly we are getting out battled & clearly when City broke for their 4th the lack of effort to get back was visible..Rose stopped then jogged back..no wonder Poch hauled him off straight after..Dele hasn't been putting a shift in he's more interested in doing flicks & nutmegs that to me says he's playing for himself & not team.. Eriksen might be out of form but at least he is working hard..Dele needs to cop himself on

I also wonder about people who think that selling Rose, Dier, Alderwiereld and Alli is a good idea and a way to move the club forward.
Seriously dude
Still, all about onions innit so whatever.

 

[Mullers]

There is too much panic going around, we could pick up 12 points over this holiday period. We're only 3 points off 4th place ffs.