Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

southlondonyiddo · Mar 13, 2018

Led's Zeppelin said:
I'm no fan of exploitation, but I can't agree that £10-£20m pa is small beer or a sign of penny-pinching. In any financing model that type of revenue is likely to be valued at up to 10X face value, so between £100 & £200m. Possibly more. That's enough to cover 25% of the stadium costs on its own and will probably have been a key condition to securing the level of finance required.

I know lots of people don't believe that Spurs will increase player expenditure in line with revenues, and we'll have to wait and see, but if we want to have any chance of competing at the next level up we have to expect this sort of thing. The realistic alternatives were either a lower-spec stadium which, by the way, would have been no easier to finance because of the reduced revenues it would have generated, or pay for a higher space stadium by reducing the footballing budget, which we should hope the club never took seriously.

I wish it we're possible to follow the German model but it simply isn't, in the UK.

Why is it not possible to keep ST for loyal supporters at a very reasonable price in the UK??

You are talking nonsense of course it is possible but the fact is no owners etc are willing to do so.

Also the football authorities in this country are so spineless and the Premier League are so uber money driven

I imagine this is the same type of argument as to why we cant pay the bankers much much less in bonuses because they will all leave and go elsewhere

Well let them fuck off somewhere else . It would also be lovely to keep football for normal working people and not just Oligarchs and the super rich as a play thing and something they can dip in and out of when they choose

adamsky · Mar 13, 2018

beats1 said:
The cost of construction has risen but this is hugely offset by the cost of steel dropping compared to when arsenal built their stadium

Has also been mentioned many times, that the massive TV money would also offset the construction cost increase. I don’t think anyone was expecting a price freeze but surely there was a middle ground. The removal of the cup games is frankly ridiculous.

shelfboy68 · Mar 13, 2018

beats1 said:
We have always been more expensive than the goons, as they get 7 cup games included in their season tickets

There you go so not really a surprise certainly not for me I expected this.

shelfboy68 · Mar 13, 2018

WiganSpur said:
A lot of fans won't have that choice now though. There will be many who would happily pay the going rate if they could actually afford it!

Of course as with anything it will a personal choice whether someone decides to go or not.

dagraham · Mar 13, 2018

samspurs92 said:
In what world did the club think it would be a good idea to now have the most expensive season tickets in the PL/world.

Seems like a massive fuck up made by highly paid people that are out of touch with the normal, paying public.

It’s greed. They do what they think they can get away with.

Happy to decimate the East stand whilst going on about the “shelf experience” and other fluff like the floor being made out of aggregate from old WHL. I’m sure many of you will be in the new stadium and turn to your mates and say “ you know what, I’m so glad the floor is made from old bits of WHL, it gives me a real good feeling. Now excuse me while I go get my £10 shelf burger.”

beats1 · Mar 13, 2018

Led's Zeppelin said:
I'm no fan of exploitation, but I can't agree that £10-£20m pa is small beer or a sign of penny-pinching. In any financing model that type of revenue is likely to be valued at up to 10X face value, so between £100 & £200m. Possibly more. That's enough to cover 25% of the stadium costs on its own and will probably have been a key condition to securing the level of finance required.

I know lots of people don't believe that Spurs will increase player expenditure in line with revenues, and we'll have to wait and see, but if we want to have any chance of competing at the next level up we have to expect this sort of thing. The realistic alternatives were either a lower-spec stadium which, by the way, would have been no easier to finance because of the reduced revenues it would have generated, or pay for a higher space stadium by reducing the footballing budget, which we should hope the club never took seriously.

I wish it we're possible to follow the German model but it simply isn't, in the UK.

The thing is, with stadiums the money maker isn't the seats but the hospitality

In the US, the stadiums have a shelf life of around 20-30 years, because they are constantly trying to increase their hospitality revenue. The club initially didnt have much hospitality as our rivals and has slowly trying to increase that in order to compete.

When chelsea complete their stadium they will be able to have lower prices and seats but have a higher stadium revenue due to their stadium having more hospitality

The NFL conversion/changes are a waste of money unless the stadium does find NFL team land there in the next decade

RichieS · Mar 13, 2018

Does anyone know why the middle 2 blocks of the East lower are unavailable? Not that I'd be going for a half way line seat anyway!

The General · Mar 13, 2018

Rob said:
Who did you talk to?

Can you outline here exactly what mistake they made with you and whether they admitted it?

I feel like we should be collecting these examples together and kicking up a fuss.

The person I spoke to was on the renewal line number they gave on the email they sent out. I actually thought that was the ticket office, but perhaps not if people are getting a different response from them. Foolishly I did not take a name, but am expecting a call back within 48 hours

The mistake they made is that my dad and I have had our season tickets since 2004, but for some reason they have him down as having had the ticket for less time. They were certainly in our own names when we first got the tickets. I think perhaps what might have happened is that we had two tickets but with the same reference number (as someone highlighted earlier) and then one season they decided to give my dad his own reference number and thus only have him down as having had the ticket since then. Problem is it’s difficult for me to prove and they indicated even if I could prove they’ve made a mistake they would not correct it.

But rest assured i’ll fight it. I don’t tolerate incompetence and won’t tolerate injustice. What happened at the Olympic stadium at the weekend will seem very tame in comparison to what I will do to Daniel Levy if this is not corrected. The club will feel my full wrath.

Saoirse · Mar 13, 2018

RichieS said:
Does anyone know why the middle 2 blocks of the East lower are unavailable? Not that I'd be going for a half way line seat anyway!

Corporate seating I believe. Interestingly the only way a normal fan can buy on the half way line now is to either sit right at the top, or be disabled.

RichieS · Mar 13, 2018

Saoirse said:
Corporate seating I believe. Interestingly the only way a normal fan can buy on the half way line now is to either sit right at the top, or be disabled.

Ah, I assumed that would all be in the west stand like the old days. Weirdly the half way line blocks in there are available to the average punter (apart from a very small bit right in the middle which I would guess are the "Tunnel Club" seats).

southlondonyiddo · Mar 13, 2018

RichieS said:
Ah, I assumed that would all be in the west stand like the old days. Weirdly the half way line blocks in there are available to the average punter (apart from a very small bit right in the middle which I would guess are the "Tunnel Club" seats).

None of the pricings we have got are for the best seats and most certainly none are available for the average punters

All those packs and seats and presentations are reserved for the best seats and areas in the ground which we (the hoi polloi)are not privy to

All the seats available to us are lower or upper seats, not the best seats in the middle (which used to be occupied by people in the middle upper shelf and in the west stand, not including the 100 club lot)

THFCSPURS19 · Mar 13, 2018

RichieS said:
Does anyone know why the middle 2 blocks of the East lower are unavailable? Not that I'd be going for a half way line seat anyway!

Tunnel Club?

dagraham · Mar 13, 2018

RichieS said:
Does anyone know why the middle 2 blocks of the East lower are unavailable? Not that I'd be going for a half way line seat anyway!

It’s all corporate mate. As well as the whole middle tier and a couple of blocks which form part of the away allocation. In the whole of the lower and middle tiers of the East there are only 3 blocks ( plus one tiny corner bit ) available to the average fan.

Such an important part of the stadium which contributes to the atmosphere and theve decimated it. Even if you’re happy to swallow the huge price increases there what they’ve done to the stand is just sad and a big mistake imo.

Obviously I feel more strongly as that’s where I sit, but I’ve stood and sat in every part of the ground ( other than the West stand) at some point in the last 30 odd years and I’d feel it was just as big of a mistake even if I sat somewhere else.

dagraham · Mar 13, 2018

THFCSPURS19 said:
Tunnel Club?

Tunnel club is in the West Lower. East Lower they’ve just decided to stick another huge corporate block in. Along with obviously all the middle bits, Sky Lounge etc etc.

dagraham · Mar 13, 2018

Saoirse said:
Corporate seating I believe. Interestingly the only way a normal fan can buy on the half way line now is to either sit right at the top, or be disabled.

Yep. In their infinite wisdom they seem to have decided that fans form the following categories :

1)People who are so desperate to be in the stadium they’ll sit anywhere, even if it costs well over a grand.
2) people who want to stand to watch the football
3) children
4) disabled people
5)rich people

Apparently, those adult fans who can walk, are quite happy to sit down in the stadium, want a half decent view and aren’t minted are thin on the ground.

benski · Mar 13, 2018

everywhere I've been looking it's around £900 quid which I don't think is too bad. If anyone actually thought it would be in line with WHL tickets then they must have missed how mr levy has been such a good businessman over the years. was never gonna happen.

I understand people are upset with the cost increase but I just don't understand how anyone is surprised.

shelfboy68 · Mar 13, 2018

It's looking like we may end being the most expensive team to watch which will then present itself with another problem, and that is the expectation on us from fans and media to win big prizes.

southlondonyiddo · Mar 13, 2018

shelfboy68 said:
It's looking like we may end being the most expensive team to watch which will then present itself with another problem, and that is the expectation on us from fans and media to win big prizes.

I think we'll all be happy with a worthington cup every 10 or 15 years

Saoirse · Mar 13, 2018

With those prices people won't even settle for consistent Champions League football and the occasional domestic cups. They'll expect Premier League and Champions League titles, never ever selling a first XI player, big name signings, and entertaining football too. All while we'll still only be the 6th richest team in the league. It's setting us up to fail. Glory is now no longer an ambition, it's an annual expectation people are paying huge amounts to see us deliver.

Bruts · Mar 13, 2018

I really fancied an 1882 seat but having read some comments on twitter and here I’m starting to think if I dare turn up a minute late to my seat after half time I’ll be lynched!

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