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New Kit 18-19
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rambu
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Actually would like that better than plain white; don't like white shirt + white shorts, personal preference and all that.
This year's kits are pretty much perfect- simple, understated, classic and easy on the eyes. The home kit is almost as good as it gets considering the disgusting red "AIA" the designers are stuck with, the away kit is just gorgeous- basic wonderful navy blue and white shirt- and our third kit looks amazing, with the "chance" they took with the underlying pattern working out to perfection. Despite some minor quibbles (I'm not a fan of the shield, I could have done without the white piping up the sides of the away kit, etc.) I still give Nike extremely high marks for what they produced: a solid 9/10 for me.
However, next year's kits are just disgusting. The home kit starts out perfectly but then ends ridiculously. The away kit starts out ridiculously and then ends perfectly, but unless you cut the sleeves off the end result is an assault on the eyes. The third kit I haven't seen, but based on the first two offerings I'm not exactly hopeful...
What I don't get is: why are we always the one club out of the "big six" (or perhaps "Big 7," if you want to include Everton, which would make sense in some ways) who- almost always (again: with the exception of this season) end up with these over-the-top, naff designs? Like yeah, sure, Chelsea and Liverpool (for instance) sometimes have, say, a horrendous, laughable 3rd shirt or whatever-- yet their home and away kits are usually quite solid-- nothing too over-the-top, just a tweak here and there (in fact, all Liverpool changed was the color of their shirt, which they actually improved by introducing a darker, richer shade of red). Same with Ars*nal, Manure and Shitty: their home and away kit(s) are usually pretty sound, design-wise, differentiating themselves just slightly from the previous year's template, year after year. Same, even with Everton: whatever absurdity their 3rd kit may be, their home and away looks are basically uniform, with a minor alteration added to differentiate it from the previous season (a different collar for example).
Whereas with us, it's a perpetual grab bag- a wild, "holy shit- will you have a look at that!"-bit of craziness, year after year after year...everything from the piss-yellow-stripe home/sailor-suit away look (the first season we made the Champions League) to the Oriental tea-server home/tire-tracks skid mark away kit of Poch's first season...and everything in between.
Indeed, why do we always have to be the team to "push the envelope" style-wise? Why can't we just "slightly" tweak what is obviously a good looking kit (as in: this season's), making small changes, a la City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, Man U, etc.? It seems like we perpetually have to reinvent the wheel, as opposed to simply sticking with what works. Again: this season's kit was close to perfect; so the idea would be to alter it just enough next season for it to be different- sure- but not so much that it looks like someone spilled a can of paint on it...
And before the inevitable "Mate, we have to change our shirts every season- lest no one purchase them because they're not differentiated enough from last season" I say: well what about Everton and/or Liverpool and/or Chelsea and/or City and/or United, etc., etc.? They don't make wholesale, ridiculous changes to their kit(s)- indeed, all they do is tweak them slightly- and yet somehow, someway they seem to manage to actually sell their new, only-slightly-different-from-last-season's-design kits just fine! They don't seem compelled to make wild swings in design each and every season-- the kind that we Spurs fans have to suffer through seemingly every year!
I honestly thought that this yearly, "radically-altered-template-with-each-new-season"-thing was, perhaps, an Under Armour quirk; that, because they were a relative newcomer to kit-making, possibly they felt compelled to go a bit hog-wild each and every year and try new, experimental things. And hey, sometimes it worked! That diagonal blue stripe on our home kit from two seasons ago did- admittedly- look kind of nice, as it distracted the eye from the odious red AIA! But, unfortunately, most of their offerings were pretty poor- especially regarding our home kit(s).
That's why when Nike came on board I was actually kind of relieved...I mean, now we're hooked up with good 'ole Nike-- giant, corporate, conservative, good looking, tasteful Nike...and boy did they ever prove that to be the case this season! And yet now I see that next season they're pulling an Under Armour on us(!), just basically throwing some shit on there in order to be "innovative," "original" and "different."
The result is a clown show; our home kit makes no sense, while our away kit is, literally, appalling.
And why now? Our first season in our new stadium and our kits look like they've been designed by an 8-year-old using MS Paint?!? I just think it's sad that whomever designs our kits gets it "right" maybe two or three times a decade, whilst the rest of the time we're made to suffer through kits that look like garbage. It's a fact: we have had many, MANY ugly kits over the past decade.
And the saddest part is that all you have to do with our home and away kits is keep it simple. Don't add "flair" just to feel like you've done something. Less is more. You can change our kit without altering it to the point of ridiculousness. You can redesign a shirt that differentiates itself from the previous year's model and yet still remains classy, understated, and- well- Tottenham.
Lastly: who the fuck signs off on this stuff? How can the same person who ok'd this season's gorgeous looks take a gander at next season's dreadful offerings and say "yup- these look brilliant- let's do it!"
The mind boggles.
However, next year's kits are just disgusting. The home kit starts out perfectly but then ends ridiculously. The away kit starts out ridiculously and then ends perfectly, but unless you cut the sleeves off the end result is an assault on the eyes. The third kit I haven't seen, but based on the first two offerings I'm not exactly hopeful...
What I don't get is: why are we always the one club out of the "big six" (or perhaps "Big 7," if you want to include Everton, which would make sense in some ways) who- almost always (again: with the exception of this season) end up with these over-the-top, naff designs? Like yeah, sure, Chelsea and Liverpool (for instance) sometimes have, say, a horrendous, laughable 3rd shirt or whatever-- yet their home and away kits are usually quite solid-- nothing too over-the-top, just a tweak here and there (in fact, all Liverpool changed was the color of their shirt, which they actually improved by introducing a darker, richer shade of red). Same with Ars*nal, Manure and Shitty: their home and away kit(s) are usually pretty sound, design-wise, differentiating themselves just slightly from the previous year's template, year after year. Same, even with Everton: whatever absurdity their 3rd kit may be, their home and away looks are basically uniform, with a minor alteration added to differentiate it from the previous season (a different collar for example).
Whereas with us, it's a perpetual grab bag- a wild, "holy shit- will you have a look at that!"-bit of craziness, year after year after year...everything from the piss-yellow-stripe home/sailor-suit away look (the first season we made the Champions League) to the Oriental tea-server home/tire-tracks skid mark away kit of Poch's first season...and everything in between.
Indeed, why do we always have to be the team to "push the envelope" style-wise? Why can't we just "slightly" tweak what is obviously a good looking kit (as in: this season's), making small changes, a la City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, Man U, etc.? It seems like we perpetually have to reinvent the wheel, as opposed to simply sticking with what works. Again: this season's kit was close to perfect; so the idea would be to alter it just enough next season for it to be different- sure- but not so much that it looks like someone spilled a can of paint on it...
And before the inevitable "Mate, we have to change our shirts every season- lest no one purchase them because they're not differentiated enough from last season" I say: well what about Everton and/or Liverpool and/or Chelsea and/or City and/or United, etc., etc.? They don't make wholesale, ridiculous changes to their kit(s)- indeed, all they do is tweak them slightly- and yet somehow, someway they seem to manage to actually sell their new, only-slightly-different-from-last-season's-design kits just fine! They don't seem compelled to make wild swings in design each and every season-- the kind that we Spurs fans have to suffer through seemingly every year!
I honestly thought that this yearly, "radically-altered-template-with-each-new-season"-thing was, perhaps, an Under Armour quirk; that, because they were a relative newcomer to kit-making, possibly they felt compelled to go a bit hog-wild each and every year and try new, experimental things. And hey, sometimes it worked! That diagonal blue stripe on our home kit from two seasons ago did- admittedly- look kind of nice, as it distracted the eye from the odious red AIA! But, unfortunately, most of their offerings were pretty poor- especially regarding our home kit(s).
That's why when Nike came on board I was actually kind of relieved...I mean, now we're hooked up with good 'ole Nike-- giant, corporate, conservative, good looking, tasteful Nike...and boy did they ever prove that to be the case this season! And yet now I see that next season they're pulling an Under Armour on us(!), just basically throwing some shit on there in order to be "innovative," "original" and "different."
The result is a clown show; our home kit makes no sense, while our away kit is, literally, appalling.
And why now? Our first season in our new stadium and our kits look like they've been designed by an 8-year-old using MS Paint?!? I just think it's sad that whomever designs our kits gets it "right" maybe two or three times a decade, whilst the rest of the time we're made to suffer through kits that look like garbage. It's a fact: we have had many, MANY ugly kits over the past decade.
And the saddest part is that all you have to do with our home and away kits is keep it simple. Don't add "flair" just to feel like you've done something. Less is more. You can change our kit without altering it to the point of ridiculousness. You can redesign a shirt that differentiates itself from the previous year's model and yet still remains classy, understated, and- well- Tottenham.
Lastly: who the fuck signs off on this stuff? How can the same person who ok'd this season's gorgeous looks take a gander at next season's dreadful offerings and say "yup- these look brilliant- let's do it!"
The mind boggles.
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mickdale
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How do you know what has been seen online is actually going to be next years kit?
RichieS
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You are aware that our home kit this season is exactly the same as Man City's and that our away and third are the same as theirs and Chelsea's? The only deviation between the 3 clubs is Chelsea's home kit (not sure why Nike tweaked it for those ****s). Next season, if our players are running around looking like bell ends then theirs will be too (along with a good number of teams at the World Cup I expect).
Every year someone asks this and every year the leak turns out to be exactly what the kit really is. These aren't fakes- these are next year's home and away kits, leaked.
Be that as it may- even if what you're saying is true, if you look at City's and Chelsea's home and away kits over the last, say, five years, you'll notice that the kit itself basically stays the same- with a few minor tweaks- whereas ours varies WILDLY from season to season. That's my point.
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mickdale
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Lol
There’s loads of different fakes each year, there’s only one site with integrity, when they give details out - there’s another load of fakes out.
“The leak” is total bollocks, there’s always multiple leaks
tiger666
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And every year people fall for it. From this one thread alone:
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-21#post-5464831
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-12#post-5420637
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-7#post-5400557
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-8#post-5403464
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-11#post-5415851
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-15#post-5430033
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/new-kit-17-18.127495/page-18#post-5461582
Usually the leaks are pretty solid I find. You are right in that sometimes they're "off," but Nike is doing that "spilled-paint"-look with other kits already so it stands to reason. Ok how about this: what do you wanna bet that next season's kit will be objectively worse than this season's? I know- beauty is in the eye of the beholder- but let's define beauty as "not putting something on the kit that detracts from the overall look." If you use that as your yardstick, then you can say that the badge they included this season- which most of us are not fond of (we would pretty much all prefer our modern cock-on-ball look, as opposed to the old-school/new school mishmash of our current shirts)- while not an addition and something that could certainly be improved upon (i.e., as I just said: simply having our normal symbol adorning the right side of the shirt, sans badge)- it doesn't, in fact, ruin anything. It's not great, but the shirt is nice enough to overcome it.
Whereas if those leaked shirts are indeed next season's kit- then the blue striping at the bottom of the home shirt ruins it as does the "spilled paint" at the top of the away shirt. That's what I would call a fatal flaw, and we seem to almost always have one (e.g., that "tire-tracks"-away kit from two years ago would've been perfect- without the tire tracks).
Look man I hope I'm overreacting to a fake and that our kit(s) next season are gorgeous- I really do. I'm just not too hopeful. It seems that every year either we have a terrible design or an ugly sponsor- and some years, both.
Why can't we have, say, Chang be our sponsor? Imagine two blue elephants facing each other on a white kit with only our cockerel insignia on the right and the Nike swoosh symbol on the left- that would be sex. Instead, we get (red, ugly) Mansion, red AIA, etc. Just once I want a beautiful sponsor (obviously I'd prefer no sponsor, but that ain't happening) on a simple white shirt- job done.
tiger666
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I want the sponsor that pays us the most money.
I agree brother- I really do- I just wish it looked good, too. Samsung looked wonderful. Yokohama Tires not so much. But the vermin had Samsung for years...
We just almost always seem to have ugly sponsors...
Hewlett Packard is a gorgeous sponsor- but they teased us for just one year. The AIA logo isn't ugly- in fact I actually kind of like it- but it's RED, which never, ever goes with our home kit. Think of the home kits over the last, say 10 years that have been objectively beautiful: HP, Investec (2X), and, well, that's it. Every other home kit we've had has had an ugly sponsor- or in the case of AIA a bright red one. Yeah, sure, they pay us well but I have to look at it! Haha at least it's not Chevrolet lol- but still- it's red-- and red on a Spurs kit is like steak sauce on a chocolate chip cookie.
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SpunkyBackpack
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I think you might be overthinking it, its a polyester shirt made to sell advertising space on children/idiots, just relax and don't buy one if you don't like it. Think of it like Lewis Hamilton's hat, are you annoyed about Lewis Hamilton's hat? I'm not, it's just a hat.
riggi
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I got this today. I usually get the home tops for the gym plus it's abit of a habit.
https://shop.tottenhamhotspur.com/product/mens-training-t-shirt-2017-2018/nkmt0117
Lovely top. Tight on the arms but that because I'm built like a Greek god.
https://shop.tottenhamhotspur.com/product/mens-training-t-shirt-2017-2018/nkmt0117
Lovely top. Tight on the arms but that because I'm built like a Greek god.
VinVega
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Not sure why im being referenced in that list.. at no point do i 'claim' or 'fall for' this being the new kit.
TottenhamMattSpur
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At a glance I thought it was missing the detail around the collar as us and Man City have a contrasting colour (navy and white respectively) there. On closer inspection it seems that they have it too, just in a blue much closer to the main colour.
I agree but will you grant me that most of the "top tier" squads: Man City, Chelscum, Ars*nal, Liverpool, Manure, Everton, etc. don't really do a "scattergun approach" with their home kit? I'm not saying that those teams sport the exact same kit every year-- of course they don't, everyone changes their kits a bit- they have to- but if you look back at any of those teams kits it's usually a minor tweak (again: to their home kit-- I am NOT talking about away, third, etc.) but nothing crazy. Like think of Chelscrotum with Samsung-- they wouldn't change much except like the collar would be different or whatever. Same with City: "Etihad" on a solid, light blue home kit end of. Liverpool, Ars*nal, Everton (with "Chang"): same thing. Whereas we go hog wild and trip the light fantastic year in and year out. Instead of being like this year's version (which is as good as it gets with that odious red "AIA"), the designer always gets "crazy" with us-- stripes, chevrons, arms one color/shirt another, "oriental"-stye design (our first "AIA" year), and so on and so on and so on. My point is that I wish we we more conservative with our home kit: white shirt, sponsor, crest, done. Change the collar, change the fit-- whatever-- but stop "grab bagging" it all the time. Because most of the time the "What's behind curtain # 3?"-approach is just plain UGLY.
Again, for examples of what I thought wasn't ugly: Investec shirts, HP shirt, this year's shirt- nice, conservative designs where the kit maker didn't try and reinvent the wheel.
Look- not the end of the world, I know-- I'm just making the point that we seem to be the only MAJOR club that goes "mystery box" with our home kit- and I hate that.
