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£40-50m? That would be inconceivably low for the full value of a deal, but at the same time double or more what we're expecting per year - unless maybe it's also including a shirt sponsorship? In which case we're talking about the AIA Arena.@robMDK posting lots today. Seems itk from building side. Reckons handover on course for August 4th. Lots of stuff on his TL. Also backed up £40-50m for naming rights which I thought was fanciful. But if true is huge.
If that's just for the stadium naming rights, I really really really hope he's right. But again that does sound just impossibly big. If it's a 20 year deal that would literally pay for the stadium.£40-50m a year.
If that's just for the stadium naming rights, I really really really hope he's right. But again that does sound just impossibly big. If it's a 20 year deal that would literally pay for the stadium.
Yup that figure would be huge. But seen it mentioned a few times and tbh in the big picture £15m would now seem like chicken feed. The PL international TV coverage has grown massively if you then add in NFL plus 16 other events and our stadium will be getting ALOT of TV time, therefore £40-50m could seem plausible. Ultimately we are selling an advertising slot for a year with 3 different focuses PL NFL and general entertainment. The NFL deal may have been much more about exposure in USA than the actual NFL. If a London franchise ever did happen our revenue could become ridiculous and pushing United type figures.
@robMDK posting lots today. Seems itk from building side. Reckons handover on course for August 4th. Lots of stuff on his TL. Also backed up £40-50m for naming rights which I thought was fanciful. But if true is huge.
Ashley was asking for £300m to buy newcastle but couldn't get it. I'd be suprised if we got more than that for a naming rights sponsor. But what do i know?
I understand (and appreciate) your workings, but I have to say you are being super creative and in all likelihood probably way off. One way or the other. I can’t imagine 1 billion pounds of debt comes cheap either for example.I have no specialist knowledge but...
I’ll have another go. Assume cost of redevelopment is £1billion.
We have apparently already put £340m into it.
Running Total: £660m.
Average cost of a ticket is about £65 a game less VAT is £50. Should we subtract 30% for staffing and policing costs? Makes £35.
Average punter spends £15 on extras at game (although could be higher with corporate ??). Less vat is £12 divide by 3 to get profit is £4.
So £39 profit per person per game. Multiply by 60,000 and again by 25 games makes £58.5m. Now half that because at OWHL we had some revenue so the difference is about £30m extra.
That seems sensible as the slightly smaller Emirates makes £100m from match day revenue. Less VAT makes £80m. Policing costs do ALL London clubs combined are apparently only £6.7m so even Emirates likely to be less than £1m. So not a million miles off when other costs factored in...
If we have a guarantee of £400m from naming rights and NFL and concerts coming in over 10 years then that leaves £260.
Less the £200m from flats to be sold and that leaves £60m.
Which means two years stadium revenues should effectively pay off the stadium (!!)
I’m aware there are other costs to running a football club but there are many other revenue streams too and other windfalls we can expect to rise not included above e.g. increased commercial revenue + shirt sales etc. Also this is the additional costs and revenue the new stadium will provide as I halved the expected profit from matchdays.
This estimate really says that the stadium should have little to no impact on our ability to compete in the transfer market or wages, as the stadium pays for itself.
The large transfer kitty already being touted seems realistic!! In 3 or 4 years we could be a self sufficient club competing with big boys in transfer market !!!
Edit: if the stadium rights deal of £520m is correct (or anything above £460m) then match day revenue is irrelevant to these considerations as rights deal + housing (£200m) + money already put in (£340m) already covers full cost. Then we are minted from day 1...
Although I agree with you general point, I think you undervalue the potential that Newcastle represent. Good sized stadium, fanatical supporters, little local competition, relatively iconic image....they have great potential if they get the right owners. If I was looking to do a ManCity/Chelsea, I would consider them and Villa.There is a big difference between buying a depressed, failing football club and taking on its debt (with no realistic way to make serious money) that has no global or European exposure, and spending a similar amount to get global exposure from sponsoring a sports stadium with a global audience for NFL, EPL football, and concerts.
It’s a lot less than a billion pounds of debt. See this from a year ago: http://m.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/...uncement-new-stadium-scheme-financing-310517/I understand (and appreciate) your workings, but I have to say you are being super creative and in all likelihood probably way off. One way or the other. I can’t imagine 1 billion pounds of debt comes cheap either for example.
Although I agree with you general point, I think you undervalue the potential that Newcastle represent. Good sized stadium, fanatical supporters, little local competition, relatively iconic image....they have great potential if they get the right owners. If I was looking to do a ManCity/Chelsea, I would consider them and Villa.
There seems to be a lot less chat aboit the roof being designed and built using special material for atmosphere. Was that all BS in the end?