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Ghost Hardware said:
100% agree, but realistically, what kind of role can we expect a 17 year old to play for a team trying to win the league and challenge in the CL. He's obviously a talent but I don't see how spending 40/50 mil of our transfer budget on him helps us win anything in the near future. Especially when we clearly need to make improvements to our starting lineup let alone our bench.
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My issue here is we really need a new starting LB, Sessegnon at best would be a rotational piece. This is a tough one for me because I would love to add him for the future but don't think it's our best allocation of resources in the meantime.
 
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dtxspurs said:
My issue here is we really need a new starting LB, Sessegnon at best would be a rotational piece. This is a tough one for me because I would love to add him for the future but don't think it's our best allocation of resources in the meantime.
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Except we don't because we've got one of the best in the league this season in Ben Davies. We need a reliable understudy, or perhaps genuine competition for him if Rose doesn't get back in the frame.
 
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glospur said:
Except we don't because we've got one of the best in the league this season in Ben Davies. We need a reliable understudy, or perhaps genuine competition for him if Rose doesn't get back in the frame.
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this is a key point....last season we were a strong second (beat a load of strong teams) with Davies playing v well at LB....this season we finished a tough season third (despite @Everlasting Seconds disagreement on that point) with terrific CL performances as well. He has proven he can be a starter for a team that could win the league BUT needs competition and rotation options
 
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glospur said:
Except we don't because we've got one of the best in the league this season in Ben Davies. We need a reliable understudy, or perhaps genuine competition for him if Rose doesn't get back in the frame.
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Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
 
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dtxspurs said:
Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
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Totally agree with this

It also made our CM players, who aren't always the best in their forward progressive passing, a lot more dangerous. There was always a 'wide' pass on, including over the top of the opposition fullback for Rose or Walker to run onto. And you don't need to be 100% precise with these balls, if your own players are speed demons.
 
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dtxspurs said:
Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
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I agree but let's be real, Sessegnon at 18 yrs old ain't the one we're looking for right now to make a difference next season. We need a more experienced player
 
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dtxspurs said:
Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
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In an ideal world we would do the following:

Ship out Rose and Davies

Bring in Tierney and Sessegnon

Ship out Trippier

Promote KWP or if Poch doesn’t deem him ready bring in Pereira whom we’ve once again been linked with.

This way we would have as close to like for like full backs and with a lot of flexibility given Sessegnon can play more advanced, all of them can play as a full back or wing back, and Aurier, KWP and Pereira can play as a left back too.
 
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If we're playing 3 at the back, would RS find it easier as they'd (presumably) another CB to help him if he gets caught out?

Going forward in attack I'm not too bothered about throwing a young kid into the mix; there have been plenty of 17, 18 and 19 year olds that have been brilliant when given a chance.
 
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FFS. He's 17 and has 21 goals and assists this season from LM or LB. That's mental. Who cares if he isn't lighting up every game.
 
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Ghost Hardware said:
100% agree, but realistically, what kind of role can we expect a 17 year old to play for a team trying to win the league and challenge in the CL. He's obviously a talent but I don't see how spending 40/50 mil of our transfer budget on him helps us win anything in the near future. Especially when we clearly need to make improvements to our starting lineup let alone our bench.
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It wouldn't really be 40/50m out of our budget though. If we sign him he'd be replacing someone else who we'd get money for. The club have to make a decision on how we sign the best players possible. We can't easily sign players who are already world class so the other option is need to sign players who can become world class. I don't really get the issue with playing a seventeen year old either. We signed Bale when he was the same age and he forced his way into the team. We may not of been in the CL or going for the title back then, but Sessegnon will be in a better overall team, with better players around him. And just look at Trent Alexander Arnold over at Liverpool. He's 19 years old and he's playing in their first team and has just played in a champions league semi final. And he's made 45 fewer appearances than RS.

dtxspurs said:
Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
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Players would be affraid of Sessegnon. He's fast at full speed, accelerates quickly and has scored 15 goals this season.
 
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wirE said:
I agree but let's be real, Sessegnon at 18 yrs old ain't the one we're looking for right now to make a difference next season. We need a more experienced player
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You need to take your opportunities when they come.

If Sessegnon is the right fit for us and as good as some think we need to make it happen.
 
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dtxspurs said:
Our fullbacks are a major weakness of our team. The difference in teams being able to shut us down this year vs last was massive and that is due to no one being afraid of Davies and Trippier so they stuffed the middle of the field. We have to get more dangerous on the flanks.

Jermaine Jenas was just saying this on the radio too so qualified people see this. The difference between Rose/Walker to Davies/Trippier was huge.
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Well if they're not they should be. He was right up there for assists and chances created for fullbacks this season. Besides, it's not really the FBs job to 'scare' the opposition. Davies is as solid as they come in this league in that position.

You might have a point at RB, although I still have faith that Aurier can be that guy, but we absolutely do not need to replace Davies and I would be staggered if we did so.

TEESSIDE1 said:
In an ideal world we would do the following:

Ship out Rose and Davies

Bring in Tierney and Sessegnon

Ship out Trippier

Promote KWP or if Poch doesn’t deem him ready bring in Pereira whom we’ve once again been linked with.

This way we would have as close to like for like full backs and with a lot of flexibility given Sessegnon can play more advanced, all of them can play as a full back or wing back, and Aurier, KWP and Pereira can play as a left back too.
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You can't be serious. Do that and our LB stocks are significantly weaker for next season.

Do you really think that a Scottish Prem player and a 17 year old from the Championship who doesn't even really play LB anymore are better than one of the best LBs in the Prem this season, and the LB from the TOTY the year before?
 
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glospur said:
Well if they're not they should be. He was right up there for assists and chances created for fullbacks this season. Besides, it's not really the FBs job to 'scare' the opposition. Davies is as solid as they come in this league in that position.

You might have a point at RB, although I still have faith that Aurier can be that guy, but we absolutely do not need to replace Davies and I would be staggered if we did so.


You can't be serious. Do that and our LB stocks are significantly weaker for next season.

Do you really think that a Scottish Prem player and a 17 year old from the Championship who doesn't even really play LB anymore are better than one of the best LBs in the Prem this season, and the LB from the TOTY the year before?
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Tierney is one of the most highly rated left backs about. I guess Wanyama is shit because he also used to play for Celtic? and Van Dijk too?

Sessegnon has played both left back and as a left sided front player this season.

We’ve suffered this season because neither Trippier or Davies can beat their man and they both run in treacle. Whereas Walker and Rose kept the opposition pinned back allowing our attacking players to run riot. If Poch really wants to revert to 352 then neither Tripps or Davies are good enough. Rose wants out.
 
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TEESSIDE1 said:
Tierney is one of the most highly rated left backs about. I guess Wanyama is shit because he also used to play for Celtic? and Van Dijk too?

Sessegnon has played both left back and as a left sided front player this season.

We’ve suffered this season because neither Trippier or Davies can beat their man and they both run in treacle. Whereas Walker and Rose kept the opposition pinned back allowing our attacking players to run riot. If Poch really wants to revert to 352 then neither Tripps or Davies are good enough. Rose wants out.
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Nice straw man.

I'm actually saying that replacing two top class LB's with a 17 year old winger (because that's exactly what he has been since about a third of the way through this season) from the Championship and a 20 year old who has only done it in the SPL would be utterly insane.

I wouldn't mind Tierney coming in to compete with Davies if Rose goes. In fact, he'd be near the top of my wishlist for that role, but we'd be mad to rely on him as our 1st choice with only a 17 year old winger as backup.

'Beating a man' is one of the most overrated stats there is, particularly for FBs. It's about 10th in the list of important traits for that position. Davies has barely beat a man all season, yet a lot of pundits and others chose him in their TOTY because he's solid as a rock defensively and he's smart with the ball, using it effectively, efficiently, and creatively.
 
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TEESSIDE1 said:
Tierney is one of the most highly rated left backs about. I guess Wanyama is shit because he also used to play for Celtic? and Van Dijk too?

Sessegnon has played both left back and as a left sided front player this season.

We’ve suffered this season because neither Trippier or Davies can beat their man and they both run in treacle. Whereas Walker and Rose kept the opposition pinned back allowing our attacking players to run riot. If Poch really wants to revert to 352 then neither Tripps or Davies are good enough. Rose wants out.
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Difference is they both proved it at a higher level in the Prem first.
 
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