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Metalhead

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If he leaves, he leaves. I'm optimistic we'll still improve. Gross is going to shit himself when he find out we've got Oyster cards now.
F**k that, he doesn't even need to use an oyster card - he can just go contactless on his card!
 

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Do you lot get worried when you find out when your partners boss is substantially more attractive, successful, wealthy, intelligent and wittier than you are?
 
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If the Independent story is true, its going to be a real struggle, pardon the pun....

If Real's number 1 target is Poch, they push for him, its going to be very difficult for us. I hope one way or other , Poch clarifies situation straight away. Last thing we need is uncertainity
Why would he have an informal agreement with Levy about the Madrid job knowing the job could have become available 3 days after he signed a new contract? He would have just waited until after that point ...

My fucking god, I wouldn't mind but half of this report is by a man that did a 180 in just under 24 hours about Gareth Bales possible non return/return to Spurs.

Shitty clickbate from a broad sheet.
 

Univarn

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If the Independent story is true, its going to be a real struggle, pardon the pun....

If Real's number 1 target is Poch, they push for him, its going to be very difficult for us. I hope one way or other , Poch clarifies situation straight away. Last thing we need is uncertainity
I would bet Poch is on a beach in Barcelona right now chilling out with his family. Doubt we get anything from him. Most likely Spurs PR team will brief the usual crew he is not available at any price (true or a negotiation tactic) and you'll see that get a run around in the papers over the next couple of days.
 

arunspurs

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Why would he have an informal agreement with Levy about the Madrid job knowing the job could have become available 3 days after he signed a new contract? He would have just waited until after that point ...

My fucking god, I wouldn't mind but half of this report is by a man that did a 180 in just under 24 hours about Gareth Bales possible non return/return to Spurs.

Shitty clickbate from a broad sheet.

Lets get one thing correct...Even the Madrid media got a shocker today. No one expected his decision that was announced today. So, its not like Zidane would have called Poch to give him a lead time so he doesnt sign the contract.

And again, most Spurs including me also believes Poch will stay. But when you have the best European club making you the number 1 target and you have a ambition to manage them, its not a easy decision. Considering we lost Bale after months of propaganda, we cannot take this easily.

Unless Poch comes out tomorrow & says no thanks, this story has the merit. More days Poch isnt going to talk about it, more the speculation will grow. Unfortunately this is off season, so we cannot know what he thinks quickly.

This is the last thing we need this summer. Like it or not, its going to be difficult few days/weeks ahead for us
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Why would he have an informal agreement with Levy about the Madrid job knowing the job could have become available 3 days after he signed a new contract? He would have just waited until after that point ...

My fucking god, I wouldn't mind but half of this report is by a man that did a 180 in just under 24 hours about Gareth Bales possible non return/return to Spurs.

Shitty clickbate from a broad sheet.
I would ask the complete opposite question. Why would he not have a gentleman's agreement, however unlikely it is that both parties actually intended to behave like gentlemen.
Pochettino is a loyal guy, but to a point. He also is undoubtedly highly ambitious on behalf of him self (as well as on behalf of the club he manages). If I were to guess, I would say that Madrid would appoint an interim/short term alternative and seek to hire Pochettino in the not so distant future. Fully I believe that Pochettino could do well with one more year of experience elsewhere before taking over such a club.
 

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If he continues his good work here, he'll get the chance to take over Real Madrid every other year, no rush doing it this summer. How many managers have they burned through the last decade? Even the successful ones don't last long.

That said, I'll never say 'he won't go to Real'. I was 100% sure Bale would stay at Spurs, but alas...
 

THFCSPURS19

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Lets get one thing correct...Even the Madrid media got a shocker today. No one expected his decision that was announced today. So, its not like Zidane would have called Poch to give him a lead time so he doesnt sign the contract.

And again, most Spurs including me also believes Poch will stay. But when you have the best European club making you the number 1 target and you have a ambition to manage them, its not a easy decision. Considering we lost Bale after months of propaganda, we cannot take this easily.

Unless Poch comes out tomorrow & says no thanks, this story has the merit. More days Poch isnt going to talk about it, more the speculation will grow. Unfortunately this is off season, so we cannot know what he thinks quickly.

This is the last thing we need this summer. Like it or not, its going to be difficult few days/weeks ahead for us
I think he’s saying that’s Zidane could’ve lost his job if they’d lost the CL final, which Poch knew.
 

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I have faith in Poch's integrity. Even if the Pope himself came calling I don't think he'd break a contract just weeks after signing it.
 

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I would ask the complete opposite question. Why would he not have a gentleman's agreement, however unlikely it is that both parties actually intended to behave like gentlemen.
Pochettino is a loyal guy, but to a point. He also is undoubtedly highly ambitious on behalf of him self (as well as on behalf of the club he manages). If I were to guess, I would say that Madrid would appoint an interim/short term alternative and seek to hire Pochettino in the not so distant future. Fully I believe that Pochettino could do well with one more year of experience elsewhere before taking over such a club.

Having a gentleman's agreement where you might break a contract you signed within weeks of signing it is bad for the club's reputation and ability to perform in the market. Rumors spread and Spurs look weak. With three years left on his contract, there was no reason Poch needed to urgently sign an extension. Poch bears no ill will to Spurs, and if Levy knew Poch wanted RM, it would be in Levy's best interest to at least wait to see the results of the CL final and ZZ's job status before having him sign the new contract.

If Poch was going to RM, why would he want to improve the bargaining power of Spurs at the expense of his new club when there would already be a good offer to bring him on?

The timing on the contract extension only makes sense if Pochettino has no interest in leaving Tottenham for Real Madrid this summer.
 

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If it’s not this time then it’ll be 2 years time. Either we need to compete properly or he will be on his way at some point. Daniel - ball is in your court still.
 

Metalhead

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If he continues his good work here, he'll get the chance to take over Real Madrid every other year, no rush doing it this summer. How many managers have they burned through the last decade? Even the successful ones don't last long.

That said, I'll never say 'he won't go to Real'. I was 100% sure Bale would stay at Spurs, but alas...
Yeah but wasn't it common knowledge that playing for Real Madrid was a boyhood dream for Bale? Can't say that I was surprised that he wanted to go. Not saying that Poch isn't ambitious but I am not sure that Bale and Poch merit a comparison.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Having a gentleman's agreement where you might break a contract you signed within weeks of signing it is bad for the club's reputation and ability to perform in the market. Rumors spread and Spurs look weak. With three years left on his contract, there was no reason Poch needed to urgently sign an extension. Poch bears no ill will to Spurs, and if Levy knew Poch wanted RM, it would be in Levy's best interest to at least wait to see the results of the CL final and ZZ's job status before having him sign the new contract.

If Poch was going to RM, why would he want to improve the bargaining power of Spurs at the expense of his new club when there would already be a good offer to bring him on?

The timing on the contract extension only makes sense if Pochettino has no interest in leaving Tottenham for Real Madrid this summer.
As he himself has said, (Pochettino), you never know in football. I believe that Zinedane's latest decision was a huge bomb, and it would be naive to think that it doesn't change thing. The fact that it's just a week since a contract signing is only arbitrary and nostalgic, it holds no practical meaning. This changes things, and we have to accept that.

I have faith in Poch's integrity. Even if the Pope himself came calling I don't think he'd break a contract just weeks after signing it.
It's not "breaking" a contract. It's being bought out of a contract, which is something completely different. Breaking a contract would be not carrying out his job. Mutually ending a contract for a fee is a completely different question.
 

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Real Madrid to launch all-out onslaught to hire Mauricio Pochettino from Tottenham Hotspur this summer

The Independent understands the Argentinian would be allowed to leave for Madrid owning to an informal agreement with Daniel Levy – providing the price is right

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...o-tottenham-hotspur-daniel-levy-a8378011.html


Signing those deals appeared to end any questions about Pochettino’s immediate future at the club, and Tottenham pointed on Thursday afternoon to the fact that Pochettino had signed a new deal just one week ago.

Any advance from Real Madrid would be firmly rejected by Tottenham.

That contract is thought to not include a release clause, strengthening Spurs’ ability to say no to Real Madrid, but those close to the Argentinean believe he would be allowed to leave for Madrid owing to an informal agreement struck between coach and club.



Riiigghtt.

I'm sure Levy went to the trouble of getting his legal team to draw up a contract worth over £40mil to keep Poch at the club, didn't include a release clause and then, with himself & Poch both needing to read and sign the contract that ensures Poch doesn't leave the club in the immediate future (that the article says is protected) they both informally agree that it'll be OK to leave if Madrid come in, even if it's after just 1 week.

Sounds perfectly feasible.
 

lazypoodle

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As he himself has said, (Pochettino), you never know in football. I believe that Zinedane's latest decision was a huge bomb, and it would be naive to think that it doesn't change thing. The fact that it's just a week since a contract signing is only arbitrary and nostalgic, it holds no practical meaning. This changes things, and we have to accept that.

I could agree with your position if the circumstances leading up to the CL final showed Zidane's position to be secure, but since they bombed in La Liga this season and his job was at risk, the actions taken by Pochettino in response to that situation matters quite a bit. ZZ's job was at risk going into the CL final, and Poch could have waited 3 more days to sign the contract and see the outcome of that match. With that new knowledge, he could take a stance that would ease his ability to go to RM. The only reason to not do so is if he had no intention of leaving, and wanted to take actions to quell the rumors that would suggest he would go to RM. One takes this course of action if they intend on staying and need to show a position of power.

Could Levy totally sour his relationship with Poch and the resulting fracas lead to Poch leaving? Certainly. But such an event would be a new situation, new circumstances. Under the current path we're seeing from Poch and Levy, anyone who puts even a shiny button on the betting line of Poch to RM is casting it into the wind.
 

Metalhead

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Signing those deals appeared to end any questions about Pochettino’s immediate future at the club, and Tottenham pointed on Thursday afternoon to the fact that Pochettino had signed a new deal just one week ago.

Any advance from Real Madrid would be firmly rejected by Tottenham.

That contract is thought to not include a release clause, strengthening Spurs’ ability to say no to Real Madrid, but those close to the Argentinean believe he would be allowed to leave for Madrid owing to an informal agreement struck between coach and club.



Riiigghtt.

I'm sure Levy went to the trouble of getting his legal team to draw up a contract worth over £40mil to keep Poch at the club, didn't include a release clause and then, with himself & Poch both needing to read and sign the contract that ensures Poch doesn't leave the club in the immediate future (that the article says is protected) they both informally agree that it'll be OK to leave if Madrid come in, even if it's after just 1 week.

Sounds perfectly feasible.
Exactly. I suspect that any 'informal agreement' and 'those close to the Argentinian' are quite possibly figments of imagination.
 
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