The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[LexingtonSpurs]

Yeah, but most (all?) of the ITK we got was positive he was staying.

It all came from Sherwood...

 

[Chris Flynn]

Do you lot get worried when you find out when your partners boss is substantially more attractive, successful, wealthy, intelligent and wittier than you are?

Never happened mate, my mum says im the most hansome man in middle management. My wife refuses to play hypotheticals......oh

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Worried, how many people turn down Real Madrid?

It's like turning down the hottest girl at school.

Which is easy if you're already in a really nice relationship. She may be the hottest girl in school, she'll be great to start with, she'll tickle your balls for a bit and you'll think it's awesome. But you know full well that she'll instantly kick you square in the bollocks and out the door as soon as someone else gets her attention.

I think Poch much prefers a nice relationship to a quick fling with a hot girl.

 

[King of Otters]

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It's not "breaking" a contract. It's being bought out of a contract, which is something completely different. Breaking a contract would be not carrying out his job. Mutually ending a contract for a fee is a completely different question.

Semantics. The only way Madrid get Poch is if he decides to up sticks and leave. I don't see him doing that weeks after singing a new contract.

 

[Lilbaz]

Ok i'll say my piece. How much was arnesen on when chelsea had to pay £10m compensation for him?
Poch has just signed a new £8.5m deal till 2023. Levy will hold them to ransom.

There are far cheaper alternatives that have won a lot more.

The madrid presidential elections are next year. Perez needs instant results to win. How quickly do you think the fans will turn on a manager who has never won anything that has just replaced a manager who won 3 cl's on the trott.

Poch will take time to get his ethos across and perez doesn't have time.

Can't see it happening. Could be wrong, if so we deal with it then. I aint losing any sleep over it.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

There might not be anything to provide any ITK on. Bearing in mind that Poch and our top players will ALWAYS be linked to other clubs, I think that people just need to stop getting flustered about it.

But to me it’s logical he really is the only stand out candidate

The other option is Wenger and wait until poch is available

 

[stormfly]

Shall we just have a merger with Madrid? Tottenham Madrid forever!

 

[Univarn]

I think we're going to ger a lot of he said/she said popping around this

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Poch for Bale - then Levy hires Redknapp, and he lets them all just run around a bit.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Semantics. The only way Madrid get Poch is if he decides to up sticks and leave. I don't see him doing that weeks after singing a new contract.

It's not semantics. I agree with you that I don't really think he will leave this summer, but it's not because a new contract was signed a few days ago. That's just inventing reasons just because we want to believe it. It matters not. It's just a business paper than can be teared apart for the right fee. There is no more sense of duty because the time frame is so short, those arguments are just emotional bullshit.

 

[C0YS]

Poch would be an awful choice for Madrid. Imagine how there players will react when Poch tells them to do laps round the training ground in his first session. I hope both parties take the logical conclusion that its not the right move at this time and we move on super quick.

 

[rawhide]

He’s here until he’s not. I’m at peace with that.

 

[lazypoodle]

There is no such thing as a contract that ensures that a manager doesn't leave a club. Contracts can be bought out at any time.

Hypothetically, let's say that Poch was aware that he was Perez's top choice for the Madrid job if Zidane were to leave, and told Levy that he wanted assurances he'd be allowed to take the job if it came open or else he wouldn't sign the contract. In the eventuality that Poch signed the contract but still went to Madrid, Spurs would stand to get something like 42m more from the buyout of the new contract than the buyout of the old.

You really think Daniel Levy is going to risk Poch not renewing his contract, and potentially forgo 42 million pounds, over a stubborn refusal to give Poch his word that he can leave for a job he would have taken regardless?

I don't know what you've read on this to suggest he has a buyout clause, but a contract can be written such that without agreement from one party, the other party can not engage in work for a competitor. We don't know the terms of this contract Poch signed. Assuming RM can just buy the contract out for the £42.5m is a really big assumption.

This is why I think there is no gentleman's agreement. If Poch needed a contractual reassurance that he could leave for PSG or RM, DL could easily insert such a buyout clause that stipulates those specific organizations with an outlandish buyout clause, and no buyout clause for any other organization. There doesn't need to be "an understanding", there can be agreed to terms that then support such an understanding.

A contract can have all manner of stipulations and requirements in it. Anything that is not specified in the contract will mean Spurs have exclusive rights to work in football as a manager with no way out other than agreement from the club for transfer, based on what Levy is willing to negotiate.

Losing Pochettino would have substantial financial penalties for Spurs going into the new stadium. Ones that I believe are so severe, that the negative impacts of letting him go to RM are such that it would be worth forcing Pochettino to do nothing for 5 years if he refused to manage the club after making this agreement.

If Poch leaves, the money from RM will be enough and more to offset the financial damages of letting him leave. This means accounting for the damages of losing your stars, harming your growing fan base (both domestic and internationally) and right when you're about to take on a major market risk with one of the newest, greatest stadiums ever built.

You know what? Forget the willingness, the dreams, the desires, the interest. Re-reading what I've written here, the reason I don't see Pochettino to Real Madrid? I don't think Real Madrid can afford to pay Spurs the cost of losing Mauricio Pochettino this summer.

 

[King of Otters]

It's not semantics. I agree with you that I don't really think he will leave this summer, but it's not because a new contract was signed a few days ago. That's just inventing reasons just because we want to believe it. It matters not. It's just a business paper than can be teared apart for the right fee. There is no more sense of duty because the time frame is so short, those arguments are just emotional bullshit.

In Pochland, I think a contract signed by him and his entire coaching staff represents a commitment beyond a mere piece of 'business paper'.

I may be wrong, but that's just the impression I get of him. We'll see I guess.

 

[L-man]

 

[yankspurs]

Shall we just have a merger with Madrid? Tottenham Madrid forever!

Well there is the one way special relationship where we give Madrid everyone

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Yeah fine. Was wondering why it was nostalgic.

You just enjoy disagreeing with me for the sake of it. Which I in turn enjoy, because then I know I'm right.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Do you lot get worried when you find out when your partners boss is substantially more attractive, successful, wealthy, intelligent and wittier than you are?

That is so superficial! What about the size of his dick?

 

[C0YS]

It's not semantics. I agree with you that I don't really think he will leave this summer, but it's not because a new contract was signed a few days ago. That's just inventing reasons just because we want to believe it. It matters not. It's just a business paper than can be teared apart for the right fee. There is no more sense of duty because the time frame is so short, those arguments are just emotional bullshit.

I mean you are right, but when was the last time someone left right after signing a contract. Ultimately, its a sign of commitment. It rarely happens that someone leaves in those circumstances. Only reason it should change is if Levy has really shown that he is not prepared or unable to stick to his side of the bargain.

 

[lazypoodle]

But to me it’s logical he really is the only stand out candidate

The other option is Wenger and wait until poch is available

We can't sit here and discuss Real Madrid being willing to pay a king's ransom for Pochettino and also suggest no one else is available to take the role at Real Madrid. If they're willing to pay Daniel Levy for what Pochettino will cost under the current market conditions, they're willing to pay for anyone.