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lukadownthelane

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Yes, because the players those clubs need to improve would not even make our bench, even injury crisis taken into account, and block the path of our youth players more than it already is.

Each club below us in terms of stature biggest signing this window:

Bournmouth: Diego Rico - who?
Brighton: Florin Andone - who?
Burnley: Ben Gibson - at best would be our 4th choice CB, we have highly talented Foyth for that
Cardiff: Josh Murphy - the shitter brother of the kid who can't make it at Newcastle
Crystal Palace: Max Meyer - Hugely unprofessional billy big balls who was banned from training by his own club - sounds ideal for Poch
Everton: Richarlison - not as good as any of our AMs and he cost £50m!!!!
Fulham: Alex Mitrovic - already flopped in this league/ Schurlle - already flopped in this league / Mawson - see Ben Gibson above
Huddersfield: Terence Kongolo - See Ben Gibson above
Leicester: James Maddison - not as good as any of our current AMs or as Grealish
Newcastle: Salomon Rondon - do I really need to go there?
Southampton: Mohamed Elyounoussi - scored 1 in 3 in the Swiss League for the best club there
Watford: Gerard Delofeu - wasn't good enough for Everton to activate a clause
West Ham: Felipe Anderson - go back to Richarlison
Wolves: Benik Afobe - well I guess he used to play with Harry Kane, god dammit we should've signed him!
Seri?
 

BringBack_leGin

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We are not the poor relation. We're owned by a billionaire, we're in the richest league in the world, we've been in the highest paying tournament in club football for three years. If we don't have money, then there's something wrong.

You narrow down targets - you think of what you need, you think of who you can get, and you go for them. That *no one* fit this category is either a failure of scouting, management or ownership, perhaps all three. It's not a one time thing either - Levy has previous with this. If you meet 'difficult negotiations' every summer, then maybe you're the issue.

If we want to play the "we can't compete" card, fine. Tell our class players and manager that, we can stop wasting their time.

Our manager and players can't be that class if we are so fucked now that we haven't made any signings. You can't have it both ways.

I know you have been given a lot of stick for your posts today and will probably get more for this but I have found it very refreshing amongst the back drop of everyone going mad and it is much appreciated by me if not anyone else.

Much appreciated, and this one post alone makes it all worthwhile :)

Also, I'm the hero Spurscommunity deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so they'll hunt me. Because I can take it, because I am not a hero.
But we done a big stadium tho. £1bn property dev.

Big ting. Serious!

No, seriously. It's quite a large thing. N17 postcode. Dashing it is; dashing.

I would get at least 30 spam ratings if I posted the same, so I'm glad you did :)

JJ on Twitter with a slightly different perspective:


Al Ⓥ
@VeryAngryVegan


@jetsetyid so nobody in at all then JJ what a disaster

The original JJetset
@jetsetyid


Depends on what constitutes a disaster and a success with our current squad however I’m not too bothered either way as knowing all details and facts it’s not as it appears and Poch is fine

Thanks for posting this! ValY was accused of being a mouthpiece by some recently banned member earlier, I wonder if anyone will repeat the trick with JJ, an ITK who has often been happy to have his say when he's been unimpressed with Levy. Unless his lack of damnation for Levy means he's no longer everyone's most trusted? I, for one, am happy for everything posted by @JJetset , @ValenciaYid , @Hercules , @Trix , @Grey Fox and @Breezer . They offer different insights from different angles and this window would not be the same without them, so thank you all.

You missed out Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea!!!

In what universe are we greater stature than those three clubs? Or did you not read my post correctly and think I was talking about league standings (you don't need to answer :) )

I do agree but this window was also a real chance to pull away from 4th/5th placed Chelsea and Arsenal who both have new managers and will likely need time and bridge the gap to UTD.

It’s an opportunity missed either way you look at it. For anyone that argues that we’re alrrady good, we should have strived to be even better, especially going into our brand new stadium.

I agree with this, and you've managed to say it in a constructive way. We should have strengthened this window, we should have done far better. But, we didn't, and it's okay because thankfully we weren't in dire straits to start with and there is still much to be optimistic about. That sad, you are right, we may well have missed a bit of a trick, but the reasons for that are far more complex than 'Levy is stingy', 'Levy has no ambition' or 'Levy is a slaphead midget ****'.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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So this is the Levy/Cullen post transfer rationalisation. We were cheap in the past and bought rubbish back ups who unsurprisingly failed so rather than repeat that again we are going to not buy anyone.

Of course the alternative would be we stop spending money on rubbish and buy fewer genuine quality players but that would be far too rational / expensive for ENIC.

I said it many months ago, the most important determinant of our spending this summer was getting a naming rights sponsor. This was Levy’s biggest / only job and he failed miserably.

Cue negative ratings from @tiger666 and the other BSoDL.


This isn't Football Manager. The top players who would walk into our side despite us being among the world's top 10 teams would be offered more money by anyone in the top 20, would be very difficult and expensive to prise away from their clubs, and in most cases already play for one of those top 20 teams and wouldn't see much reason to move to us. We've done the first part - stop spending money on rubbish/average squad options, we're past that stage as a club. Now it's on to the second, but that involves watching and waiting for the odd occasion when the right player becomes available and we can swoop in for him without any of the more moneyed clubs taking an interest.

There's also the fact that in recent years our transfer budget has been zero. What we bring in is funded by what we sell. There's no reason to think that's different, and we'd already spent on Lucas without funding it. Add a big name on top and you're talking £100m total. If we don't want to sell our big names and can't sell the squad, that's the situation.

As for naming rights, it's not just us struggling on that. There's very little appetite for such deals in Britain right now, we're not the only ones struggling on it. For obvious reasons there's a lot of long-term economic uncertainty and a risk to the country's "soft power" or cultural value too. There is nothing Tottenham can do about that. The choice was likely to take a sub-par deal this year, or hope for a better one next year - particularly if we're confident the NFL etc will be a success and assure the sponsor of a large audience outside anything to do with Britain. If we've chosen the latter I'd trust our judgement on it.
 

AJW

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I have no issue with not making signings if there were none of sufficient quality. I just wish we signed up some more promising 19/20 year olds in positions we know we will need soon and try to bring them through. They are likely not to expect immediate game time and can play in the u-23 but be fast tracked to the squad where possible. If we can’t shop with the big clubs - this should be the ideal market for us rather than waiting for them to make a name for themselves.
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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Aug 5, 2008
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We obviously had no strategy. Making a few stupid offers for Martial, Zaha etc doesn’t constitute proper effort. Under Levy and co you struggle to see us signing any player that other top 6 teams have an interest in in. We are not even at the table by all accounts.
 

greigo

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May 19, 2005
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Its like spoilt children. A god given right to continually spend cash while expecting the latest stadiums and training grounds. I would have liked some new players in to plug some wholes in the squad, but what we didn't need was another £30million panic buy like sissoko
 

vegassd

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Aug 5, 2006
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I could agree with that list if we were in competition with those clubs - The reality is that expectation from recent seasons makes us a top 4 club & minimum top 6, not a mid-table team - Irrelevant imo

I believe he was replying to a poster that was saying that the clubs below us were better at transfers than us because they all added at least one player. BBLG was basically saying that yeah, those clubs did make transfers but are any of those transfers the sort of quality that we would want.

So I agree that it's irrelevant, but it's the original poster whose statement was irrelevant.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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Yes that window really f_ed us right through to now and the future.

But it was also a window where we agreed a deal for bats, then levy screwed the deal try to be cheap. Poch also wanted zaha but levy went in with a FU offer that was so offensive that it killed any hope of a deal. We missed out on two wing forwards of decent quality, the player type we have been crying out for, and still are. We ended up paying big money for inappropriate players who weren't up to it.

That's one possibility. The other altogether more likely one is that Bats got offered far more more money by Chelsea, possibly an amount that put him on more even than our star players at the time. As for Zaha we've had a lot of ITK saying it was never on and we've had zero interest in him.
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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I don’t think this has been a failed window. But I guess that isn’t a popular narrative right now.

But the doom and gloom is ridiculous. Lighten up people.
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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And then if we're around 4th place or dare I say it challenging even higher than that come March/April you'll be asking if anyone has a spare ticket.

I think you misunderstood. I'll still go to games and bought a ticket for Fulham game but just don't see another way to make my voice heard so cancelling the monthly subscription is my way!
 
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