Match Threads Bournemouth v Spurs - Match Thread

shelfmonkey · May 5, 2019

VancouverSpur said:
Will be happy when VAR comes in. Its not the be all and end all but it will give a degree of clarity to matters and support a group of referees who have been absolutely abysmal this season. It may have worked against us today with the penalty decisions Bournemouth could have had but I would have felt more comfortable with VAR than without it. With it we have a penalty at the end of the game regardless of any other decisions.

Pawsons refereeing was Sunday league level and I am being unkind to Sunday League refs. Not sure what has happened to the standard of refereering but they are presiding over multi-million pound decisions essentially as thats what is on offer for CL qualification. So to have those types of decisions in the hands of people who currently need to go to Specsavers is laughable.

VAR won't be a catch all or cure all but it will be at the very least a Guide dog or a white stick for the referees who seem otherwise blind.

Tbh I think losing 13 games will have more to do with our failure to qualify for CL than the abysmal state of our refereeing!

Doctor Dinkey · May 5, 2019

MR_BEN said:
Reaching the champions league final but not qualifying for next year would not help us attract players at top players want champions league football. Even average players do too...

Qualifying for CL has very little to do with recruitment IMO. Look at arsenal. Nope, it's all about the wages we can offer.

Indisguise · May 5, 2019

In light of Lerma's dreadful behaviour, I really hope we give some serious thought to appealing Son's red card.

daryl hannah · May 5, 2019

Soft reds from a bent ref

Son - push after violent stamp by Lerma.
Foyth - wasn't even two-footed and didn't make contact.

daryl hannah · May 5, 2019

Lerma is the league's new Douglas Costa

fishhhandaricecake · May 5, 2019

rupsmith said:
A great post.

I was devastated yesterday. When I saw Sonny being sent off I just knew it wasn't going to be our day. It's worrying because I don't know where the next goal will come from. The last one was against Brighton from Eriksen. West Ham, Ajax and Bournemouth - nothing.

But we have to keep hope. Two must win games. If the lads turn up we have a chance. Running on an empty tank now that is for sure. We need those three points from the Everton game. That is critical.

Thanks mate and agree with you but let’s keep the hope the boys have pulled off some remarkable results this season just a few more needed for a history making one

Joshua shepherd · May 5, 2019

fishhhandaricecake said:
100% spot on both of you.

I’m annoyed at the individual brain farts of all of Son, Dier, Foyth and Toby

COYS.

Toby??? Wtf did he do wrong? His yellow card was the right thing to do, city make challenges like that when a teams on the counter all the time, it stops the other team scoring. Besides he was only bailing out Eriksen who gave the ball away yet again (incidentally sissoko got one the exact same way).

Spurs 1961 · May 5, 2019

Indisguise said:
In light of Lerma's dreadful behaviour, I really hope we give some serious thought to appealing Son's red card.

If we appeal does that postpone the suspension until the appeal is heard?

pennywise · May 5, 2019

Joshua shepherd said:
Toby??? Wtf did he do wrong? His yellow card was the right thing to do, city make challenges like that when a teams on the counter all the time, it stops the other team scoring. Besides he was only bailing out Eriksen who gave the ball away yet again (incidentally diers first came the exact same way).

Eriksen had nothing to do with the sequence of play before Dier's yellow, if that's what you are trying to argue.

Tottenhamboy85 · May 5, 2019

Spurs 1961 said:
If we appeal does that postpone the suspension until the appeal is heard?

It would but I assume they would have it sorted this week regardless

Joshua shepherd · May 5, 2019

pennywise said:
Eriksen had nothing to do with the sequence of play before Dier's yellow, if that's what you are trying to argue.

My mistake, was the sissoko booking not dier.

Monkey boy · May 5, 2019

After seeing the team line ups this time yesterday it really is criminal what transpired after that. Just how did we manage to shoot ourselves in the foot so hard? I didn’t see the game because I was travelling and can’t bring myself to watch the highlights (contradiction in terms). Did we have any good chances before we decided to self destruct or was we our usual slow, laboured and uninventive selfs?

JarBirl · May 5, 2019

Monkey boy said:
After seeing the team line ups this time yesterday it really is criminal what transpired after that. Just how did we manage to shoot ourselves in the foot so hard? I didn’t see the game because I was travelling and can’t bring myself to watch the highlights (contradiction in terms). Did we have any good chances before we decided to self destruct or was we our usual slow, laboured and uninventive selfs?

We were creating enough chances and looked livelier than the past few games. Then Son got sent off, and all hell broke loose.

SPURSLIFE · May 5, 2019

MR_BEN said:
Clueless. The stadium is what gives us the funds to continue to compete at the top.

It’s also not like we had £1bn in cash we spunked on the stadium - about £700m of that was borrowed, so wouldn’t have been available for player transfers.

It also shows existing players and potential signings we are serious about becoming a massive force in the footballing world.

You need CL football to give you the extra funds and with out the players we can't get it stadium or no stadium. So if we don't get in the CL for next season the top players won't want to come here and some existing players would think of leaving. That leaves us with a slow re building job.
And for your information I'm not clueless I just have a different opinion to you which is shared by a lot of our supporters.

Up From Dover · May 5, 2019

Monkey boy said:
After seeing the team line ups this time yesterday it really is criminal what transpired after that. Just how did we manage to shoot ourselves in the foot so hard? I didn’t see the game because I was travelling and can’t bring myself to watch the highlights (contradiction in terms). Did we have any good chances before we decided to self destruct or was we our usual slow, laboured and uninventive selfs?

Yes we had several good chances. Their young keeper made saves from Lucas and Dele. At that stage it looked as if it would only be a matter of time before we scored. Either that or their keeper would play a blinder.
As it was he was MOTM which says a lot!

fishhhandaricecake · May 5, 2019

Monkey boy said:
After seeing the team line ups this time yesterday it really is criminal what transpired after that. Just how did we manage to shoot ourselves in the foot so hard? I didn’t see the game because I was travelling and can’t bring myself to watch the highlights (contradiction in terms). Did we have any good chances before we decided to self destruct or was we our usual slow, laboured and uninventive selfs?

We should’ve been 3-0 up at HT, we played pretty well but Lucas dele and son all missed a few chances and their 19yr old keeper made some good saves then son got sent off and we fell apart.

fishhhandaricecake · May 5, 2019

SPURSLIFE said:
You need CL football to give you the extra funds and with out the players we can't get it stadium or no stadium. So if we don't get in the CL for next season the top players won't want to come here and some existing players would think of leaving. That leaves us with a slow re building job.
And for your information I'm not clueless I just have a different opinion to you which is shared by a lot of our supporters.

I think most of our players would stay next season if we came 5th to be honest it’s more the financial impact of no CL footy that would be the issue for our already minimal transfer kitty.

JayB · May 5, 2019

Indisguise said:
In light of Lerma's dreadful behaviour, I really hope we give some serious thought to appealing Son's red card.

I think it will depend on what Pawson wrote in his match report. If he deemed it a red card because Lerma clutching his face made him believe there was contact to the head then I think we will have a leg to stand on, and Lerma will be charged with successful deception of the referee.

If, on the other hand, Pawson claimed the sending off was for the shove alone then I don't think we stand any chance of the decision being overturned. It's incredibly soft and virtually never given but a shove can reasonably be seen as violent conduct, so the decision would stand.

spursbhoy67 · May 5, 2019

Get in Brighton. We are effectively back in the Champions League.

Yakflange · May 5, 2019

So everyone that was 100% convinced that Man United and Arsenal wouldn't drop points and that we'd definitely fucked it up and definitely lost top four - please line up to eat some humble pie below this message...

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