Gareth Bale

bat-chain · May 20, 2019

bigfrooj said:
Sorry all but if anyone on here is doubting the wisdom of re-signing Gareth Bale after the spell he had for us previously really needs to think about following another sport. As for finances I have no interest, I will leave that to Daniel Levy because frankly he knows what he is doing with the clubs money a lot better than me. Bring Gareth home.

Not as simple as just looking at a players ability.

Our squad and their success is built on togetherness and a willingness to work harder for less than they could get at another club. However much Bale did for us on the pitch he did not want to stick around as soon as he got a better offer.

He enjoyed being part of the Tottenham 'project' and was a great contributor but did he really believe in it?

Kane could have done the same, so could Hugo but they didn’t, they are still here working their tits off to bring us glory, Bale won’t be coming back for that he'll be coming back because Real have abandoned him.

I don’t think I want that at the heart of the club, I actually think our existing players deserve better.

ronspurs · May 20, 2019

Considering we bought back Robbie Keane after he actually betrayed us for his “boyhood club” I don’t think anyone at the club will have an issue with bringing back a world class player who moved to the biggest club in the world for a record transfer fee

dagraham · May 20, 2019

bat-chain said:
Not as simple as just looking at a players ability.

Our squad and their success is built on togetherness and a willingness to work harder for less than they could get at another club. However much Bale did for us on the pitch he did not want to stick around as soon as he got a better offer.

He enjoyed being part of the Tottenham 'project' and was a great contributor but did he really believe in it?

Kane could have done the same, so could Hugo but they didn’t, they are still here working their tits off to bring us glory, Bale won’t be coming back for that he'll be coming back because Real have abandoned him.

I don’t think I want that at the heart of the club, I actually think our existing players deserve better.

Lol. Has Kane even been seriously pursued by a huge club? And by the time Kane was even on the radar of the top clubs we were already beginning to be regular top four players. You can’t compare us as a club to then.

As for Bale being a great contributor , but not “believing”. Would you believe if you were Bale and saw us consistently losing our best players and the realisation that you were carrying the entire team? Even my missus could tell he was way too good for us and she knows fuck all about football.

As for players deserving better, go ask them if they’d like the idea of having Bale in the squad. Obviously a hypothetical situation, but I would be very surprised if their reaction was not “yes fucking please”, as opposed to “oh no, Bale didn’t believe and I did, I don’t want that unbelieving pussy anywhere near our team. We deserve better”

You clearly don’t like how Bale left on an emotional level still, which is fair enough, but let’s not dress it up with players deserve better and ruining “the project”. The only thing that will ruin the project is if we go backwards on the pitch, losing the likes of Eriksen and Toby, not investing and improving the squad and Poch eventually departing.

EastLondonYid · May 20, 2019

Bale and his agent are playing a blinder.
By saying he will see out his contract and just play golf even if he doesn't play is a master stroke.
That is the last thing RM wants any interested party to be hearing, his value will plummet if Bale sits tight and doesn't blink Zidane is stuck with a player he doesn't want on 600k a week, that will hit his plans big time what with fair play he will be had by the bollocks and Bales transfer price will drop big time just to get him off the books
A loan deal they would have to consider and I would snatch their hands off, anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy, Bale is WC.

Wheeler Dealer · May 20, 2019

ronspurs said:
Considering we bought back Robbie Keane after he actually betrayed us for his “boyhood club” I don’t think anyone at the club will have an issue with bringing back a world class player who moved to the biggest club in the world for a record transfer fee

Keane coming back was a panic buy by Redknapp, as we were floundering in the relegation zone with only Pavlyuchenko and Bent as our only recognised strikers. Defoe came back at similar time.

lol · May 20, 2019

SpartanSpur said:
Some of his highlights from a the last year or so. Life in the old dog yet!

haven seen him play for so long. feels so heavy when i see him run nowadays. seems to have lost that agility he used to have

DFF · May 20, 2019

Ordinarily I think Bayern would be the logical destination, especially now they’ve bid farewell to Robben and Ribery.

However, it seems either he or the media have ruled him out of going to a different country outside of Spain or England.

SpartanSpur · May 20, 2019

lol said:
haven seen him play for so long. feels so heavy when i see him run nowadays. seems to have lost that agility he used to have

I know what you mean, he's no longer got that blistering pace he had, but he's not slow either (goal vs Girona where he latches on a through ball showed that). Still has an absolute weapon of a left foot regardless!

bat-chain · May 20, 2019

dagraham said:
Lol. Has Kane even been seriously pursued by a huge club? And by the time Kane was even on the radar of the top clubs we were already beginning to be regular top four players. You can’t compare us as a club to then.

As for Bale being a great contributor , but not “believing”. Would you believe if you were Bale and saw us consistently losing our best players and the realisation that you were carrying the entire team? Even my missus could tell he was way too good for us and she knows fuck all about football.

As for players deserving better, go ask them if they’d like the idea of having Bale in the squad. Obviously a hypothetical situation, but I would be very surprised if their reaction was not “yes fucking please”, as opposed to “oh no, Bale didn’t believe and I did, I don’t want that unbelieving pussy anywhere near our team. We deserve better”

You clearly don’t like how Bale left on an emotional level still, which is fair enough, but let’s not dress it up with players deserve better and ruining “the project”. The only thing that will ruin the project is if we go backwards on the pitch, losing the likes of Eriksen and Toby, not investing and improving the squad and Poch eventually departing.

It genuinely isn’t emotional, I love Bale but I don’t think signings player on huge wages who have already left the club and whose best years are behind them will create the right atmosphere in the club. Mentally I don't think it would quite work. On a emotional level I'd love Bale and Modric, it’s my brain that wouldn’t.

No one in our squad has 'dropped down' to play for us and I think that gives as an edge, an edge we will lose if we start to mix that up. Look at how Ozil struggles post Madrid at Arsenal or Di Maria at Man Utd.

Players are human, they will struggle to motivate themselves to climb the mountain a second time. That’s why ours give so much in my opinion they are still on a mission, Bale isn’t.

You have a different opinion and you may be right but it's not emotional to think you need a hungry motivated squad.

theShiznit · May 20, 2019

EastLondonYid said:
Bale and his agent are playing a blinder.
By saying he will see out his contract and just play golf even if he doesn't play is a master stroke.
That is the last thing RM wants any interested party to be hearing, his value will plummet if Bale sits tight and doesn't blink Zidane is stuck with a player he doesn't want on 600k a week, that will hit his plans big time what with fair play he will be had by the bollocks and Bales transfer price will drop big time just to get him off the books
A loan deal they would have to consider and I would snatch their hands off, anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy, Bale is WC.

Thought the golf stuff was made up twitter BS?

lol · May 20, 2019

SpartanSpur said:
I know what you mean, he's no longer got that blistering pace he had, but he's not slow either (goal vs Girona where he latches on a through ball showed that). Still has an absolute weapon of a left foot regardless!

is it his weight? his stride seems to have a downward momentum nowadays. that puts more pressure onto his knee. he used to run with a much more upright posture ( what CR does ).

EastLondonYid · May 20, 2019

theShiznit said:
Thought the golf stuff was made up twitter BS?

The total disrespect shown by ZZ I would think there might be some truth in it just to piss them off.
Their relationship has broken completely so the gloves are off.

dagraham · May 20, 2019

bat-chain said:
It genuinely isn’t emotional, I love Bale but I don’t think signings player on huge wages who have already left the club and whose best years are behind them will create the right atmosphere in the club. Mentally I don't think it would quite work. On a emotional level I'd love Bale and Modric, it’s my brain that wouldn’t.

No one in our squad has 'dropped down' to play for us and I think that gives as an edge, an edge we will lose if we start to mix that up. Look at how Ozil struggles post Madrid at Arsenal or Di Maria at Man Utd.

Players are human, they will struggle to motivate themselves to climb the mountain a second time. That’s why ours give so much in my opinion they are still on a mission, Bale isn’t.

You have a different opinion and you may be right but it's not emotional to think you need a hungry motivated squad.

Fair enough. I do know whet you mean, even though I don’t agree with you regarding this situation. If we were in a position to sign world class or close to world class players still entering their peak years I might well agree with you, but we’re not.

We are simply not going to be able to sign anyone remotely near Bale’s level.

I agree that a squad needs hunger and we don’t want players just phoning their performance in, but have you considered that Bale just wants to be able to enjoy his football again and possibly show Zidane and Real they were wrong? I think that’s enough motivation in itself.

JamieSpursCommunityUser · May 20, 2019

bat-chain said:
Not as simple as just looking at a players ability.

Our squad and their success is built on togetherness and a willingness to work harder for less than they could get at another club. However much Bale did for us on the pitch he did not want to stick around as soon as he got a better offer.

He enjoyed being part of the Tottenham 'project' and was a great contributor but did he really believe in it?

Kane could have done the same, so could Hugo but they didn’t, they are still here working their tits off to bring us glory, Bale won’t be coming back for that he'll be coming back because Real have abandoned him.

I don’t think I want that at the heart of the club, I actually think our existing players deserve better.

Ditto @dagraham

I also think there's been some mis-perception, revised, or distorted memory about his character.

Fed perhaps by his wealth, how his image has been projected by Marca (Real's mouthpiece), and because he doesn't speak the language or go out for Paella at 1am.

Everyone in football who knows him always says he's an unassuming and top man, as he was with us.

SpartanSpur · May 20, 2019

lol said:
is it his weight? his stride seems to have a downward momentum nowadays. that puts more pressure onto his knee. he used to run with a much more upright posture ( what CR does ).

I suspect it may be the case. Probably copied Ronaldo's training regimen. Certainly seems a lot more muscular now.

TC18 · May 20, 2019

bat-chain said:
It genuinely isn’t emotional, I love Bale but I don’t think signings player on huge wages who have already left the club and whose best years are behind them will create the right atmosphere in the club. Mentally I don't think it would quite work. On a emotional level I'd love Bale and Modric, it’s my brain that wouldn’t.

No one in our squad has 'dropped down' to play for us and I think that gives as an edge, an edge we will lose if we start to mix that up. Look at how Ozil struggles post Madrid at Arsenal or Di Maria at Man Utd.

Players are human, they will struggle to motivate themselves to climb the mountain a second time. That’s why ours give so much in my opinion they are still on a mission, Bale isn’t.

You have a different opinion and you may be right but it's not emotional to think you need a hungry motivated squad.

I can see your argument to a certain extent but some examples you gave aren't quite true. Ozil was great for Arsenal, its only the past 2 seasons that he's really dropped off with injuries and a manager that doesn't see him in his plans. Same as Sanchez, you could say that he dropped down when joining Arsenal. Van der Vaart definitely dropped down when he joined us, I didn't see any lack of motivation from him.

What I'm trying to get at here, is that players don't suddenly loose motivation after leaving the best teams in the world, especially when they haven't won a PL before themselves.

I'm sure Bale would love to have a chance of winning the PL, hopefully it's with us.

EastLondonYid · May 20, 2019

bat-chain said:
It genuinely isn’t emotional, I love Bale but I don’t think signings player on huge wages who have already left the club and whose best years are behind them will create the right atmosphere in the club. Mentally I don't think it would quite work. On a emotional level I'd love Bale and Modric, it’s my brain that wouldn’t.

No one in our squad has 'dropped down' to play for us and I think that gives as an edge, an edge we will lose if we start to mix that up. Look at how Ozil struggles post Madrid at Arsenal or Di Maria at Man Utd.

Players are human, they will struggle to motivate themselves to climb the mountain a second time. That’s why ours give so much in my opinion they are still on a mission, Bale isn’t.

You have a different opinion and you may be right but it's not emotional to think you need a hungry motivated squad.

Bale is a proven winner, I'm sure he would love to have a PL winner medal to go for, I'm sure he would bust a gut for that and us.
Plus we would no way pay his current wages RM would have to pay a large chunk of it.
He isn't that old, and he is a great lad, don't believe all the Spanish media crap, they are shocking when they are bored of someone they have no class

lol · May 20, 2019

SpartanSpur said:
I suspect it may be the case. Probably copied Ronaldo's training regimen. Certainly seems a lot more muscular now.

agree. Cr added strength to his speed, but bale added strength and lost his speed. he adopted cr regime but not his posture. i hope he lose that weight and relieves some pressure off his legs. basically do a lebron.

SpartanSpur · May 20, 2019

lol said:
agree. Cr added strength to his speed, but bale added strength and lost his speed. he adopted cr regime but not his posture. i hope he lose that weight and relieves some pressure off his legs. basically do a lebron.

Seems to be an issue in the modern game. Seen similar suggestions about Kane recently. Could even help both of their injury records.

HodisGawd · May 20, 2019

Kane, Bale and Dele in the same team would terrify teams.

Eriksen (I hope) and Son as well, and hopefully Sess.

Just think about that for a minute...

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