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SargeantMeatCurtains

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Mate, English cricket fans have been getting pissed at test matches for donkeys years.
I’ve already said as much in reply. However it has never, ever been to this extent.

As I’ve said, the fans getting smashed whilst the players get pummelled into a first Ashes home loss in quite a while just doesn’t sit right with me. The players should be held accountable and the ones who have every right to do it are the ones who’ve paid to support them.
 

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I’ve already said as much in reply. However it has never, ever been to this extent.

As I’ve said, the fans getting smashed whilst the players get pummelled into a first Ashes home loss in quite a while just doesn’t sit right with me. The players should be held accountable and the ones who have every right to do it are the ones who’ve paid to support them.
But surely they have every right to make the best of the weather and enjoy themselves.
Just because thats not how you'd behave doesn't make it the wrong way to behave.

Im pretty sure the players will very soon know how the majority of the country feel about the way they've performed.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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But surely they have every right to make the best of the weather and enjoy themselves.
Just because thats not how you'd behave doesn't make it the wrong way to behave.

Im pretty sure the players will very soon know how the majority of the country feel about the way they've performed.
As I’ve said, it is just my opinion. It doesn’t sit right with me. If Spurs were losing at home, how would you feel about drunk fans chucking a beach ball around the stadium? Maybe I care more about test cricket than I should?
 

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If Spurs were losing at home, how would you feel about drunk fans chucking a beach ball around the stadium?
Well I definitely wouldn't blame them for the defeat thats for sure.

I think you're frustrated, and rightly so, but you're just lashing out at everything.
It's clear we've completely let the test side of things slip, while we've concentrated on the shorter formats...but maybe it will take a few defeats like this to force a change?
 

dagraham

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I’ve already said as much in reply. However it has never, ever been to this extent.

As I’ve said, the fans getting smashed whilst the players get pummelled into a first Ashes home loss in quite a while just doesn’t sit right with me. The players should be held accountable and the ones who have every right to do it are the ones who’ve paid to support them.

I know what you mean (and in fact I often feel this way about the crowd at Spurs, a lot of whom seem more concerned with getting the next beer in as opposed to what’s happening on the pitch).

I just think Cricket crowds have always been about drinking and clowning around. Which is why things always get a bit louder and jovial during the late afternoon/evening.

I haven’t really noticed much difference in the last decade, although I don’t attend the cricket.
 

SteveH

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Smith and Labuschagne aside, This has got to be one of the weakest batting line ups, from both sides, I've seen in an Ashes series.

Both batsmen you mention are sadly Australian, they are head shoulders above everyone other players involved! Root should be made vice-captain or something and allowed to concentrate on his batting again!
 
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Got to hold onto those, that's two this afternoon and the no ball ... When you're luck's in/out ...
 

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Thank god we won the world cup. All our eggs were clearly in that basket. Imagine if Australia had knocked us out of that!

Definitely need two different coaches for the different formats.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Thank god we won the world cup. All our eggs were clearly in that basket. Imagine if Australia had knocked us out of that!

Definitely need two different coaches for the different formats.
Agreed but I don’t think that solves the problem as it’s a lot more deeper rooted.

The ECB have followed the money. They know there is money to be made in limited overs cricket and that’s why they’ve made The Hundred. Just look at the state of the county division and you’ll see where the ECB’s priorities lay.
 
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Stokes’ innings in the previous game and his bowling now just showcases why he should be captain. Root has mentally checked out.
Yet his first innings dismissal here would suggest he is no better than any of them, it's all too hit and miss.

He is next in line, he'll get consideration due to the fact there isn't anyone else.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Yet his first innings dismissal here would suggest he is no better than any of them, it's all too hit and miss.

He is next in line, he'll get consideration due to the fact there isn't anyone else.
I think there’s a lot of evidence from the past to suggest Stokes is worthy of the captaincy, not just because he’s the next in line by default.

He’s suffered that defeat in the world T20, he (along with Buttler) carried England to a World Cup win and now he’s the only guy actually trying out there. Poor fucker.

Who knows what the captaincy would do to Stokes form wise, as it has done with Root, but I think Root needs to go away from test cricket for a bit and Stokes is a natural successor.
 
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I think there’s a lot of evidence from the past to suggest Stokes is worthy of the captaincy, not just because he’s the next in line by default.

He’s suffered that defeat in the world T20, he (along with Buttler) carried England to a World Cup win and now he’s the only guy actually trying out there. Poor fucker.

Who knows what the captaincy would do to Stokes form wise, as it has done with Root, but I think Root needs to go away from test cricket for a bit and Stokes is a natural successor.
Root doesn't know where his off stump is all of a sudden, form and confidence will do for any batsman. His captaincy is totally questionable, end of this series it is time for a change. I'd rather have the batsman Root than his current incarnation.

Can Stokes do any worse in the eyes of public? Probably not. There aren't many other options out there unless Buttler is about to become another Mike Brearley type in this modern age of cricket.

Still thinks it needs a shake up from the top down. Selectors and everything, we'll see.
 

buckley

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to suggest that the bowlers aren't trying is insulting and wrong the fault lies squarely on the batsmens heads to bowl them out for a low score in the first innings and it looks like its not going to be many more in the second innings is a manful performance especially as there was a short space turn around because England was bowled out so quickly therefore not the normal rest time and I say well done the bowlers.
 
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