Oliver is a biased prick, he wouldn’t change the decision even if he was sent to the pitch side.
Player Watch: Erik Lamela
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Japhet
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I don't think he necessarily set us up to defend but he let our midfield get overrun by having 4 attacking players. Hojbjerg is running on fumes and Ndombele was getting closed down very quickly, so our attacking players were cast adrift while we were getting pumped in midfield. He did nothing to stop the attacks down our right but then chose to call out Bale (not specifically but we know who he meant) for not helping out. The setup was wrong and we needed to get control in the middle of the pitch but Mourinho just let it ride. We couldn't get the ball forward because we were losing out repeatedly in CM.
ajspurs
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I agree mate, but I also thought it was partly due to Arsenal feeling even more protective once they knew they had the numerical advantage, to me it looked like they began to shit themselves as much as we all of a sudden started playing. It's even more worrying to think you can only be up for a NLD once a player gets sent off and you're a goal down.
Yea that’s the most frustrating thing from last night, this group of players had been with the club for a while now and to go into the NLD with no desire and no fight is just inexcusable.
ajspurs
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Yeah absolutely. Like I've said in another post, you could see after just 5 minutes that it wasn't looking right, that we looked way too labored. Terrible attitude and tactical approach to go into a NLD with.
We looked very flat and not up for the game at all. Very disappointing.
Wig
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You peaked too soon buddy
BringBack_leGin
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Freddie
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This might be the case, but you can also see why refs and opponents hate him. He constantly leaves a foot in, or will nick someone on the ankle long after the ball has gone, he'll barge into someone off the ball...basically he does a lot when no one is looking. It's not usually worthy of a red so VAR wouldn't intervene but he very difficult to referee. That's why a ref might have an agenda, and today it cost him and us.
On a different not his refusal to use his right is infuriating. It's the only reason he had to go for rabona but seconds after he came on we had a decent passing move when he had to play the easiest ball to Doherty in behind but instead he laid it off backwards on the half way line using his left. Another time he could have burst into a dangerous area behind the midfield but it involved controlling it first time on his right so instead he stopped, controlled it first and the chance was gone. When this is a constant thing it hinders us so much. I'm astonished he hasn't improved this over the years. But overall he was alright.
Lamela and his right foot should be the least of our problems from last night, what exactly did the two footers in our team created in the entire game? Tanguy pass the ball directly to the opposition with his right foot no less in a very good situation in the second half, these things happen to everyone.
Freddie
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This is a thread about Lamela, and he's done this his whole career rather than just yesterday. He missed a simple chance against Zagreb for the same reason before Kane tapped in. Maybe I'm holding Lamela to higher standards because he constantly finds himself in telling positions which the others don't.
al_pacino
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He was clearly a bit unlucky with the sending off. I think his biggest problem was the rest of the team had decided kicking the arsenal players was the best way to go and Lamelas reputation cost him a second yellow which on other occasions would've been a little warning.
I just find it strange to criticize his lack of right foot after a match when a) he had scored an unbelievable goal with his left foot that was probably the only positive in the match and b) nobody did any better being able to use both of their feet. C) his right foot isn’t why we lost the game.
Beni
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The sneaky little overreactions that Guardiola is known for, his little prodigy in Arteta is getting his players to do the same. Every little niggle was overreacted by Arsenal players like they were shot and bought by Oliver.
Spurs players had to hurdle challenges and pull backs, and it was like it was justified because Oliver played advantage even though there was no real advantage to be had.
Ref had already made his mind up from the start of that game, and Lamelas reputation played into the refs hands. Every one of Lamelas tackles he gets the ball first but penalised for strength. If that’s fouling, then Xakas tackle in the box on Doherty is then a foul/penalty.
Sick of a, the result and performance as main factors, but b, doesn’t take away from the fact, that that was the worst ref display I’ve seen this season.
Spurs players had to hurdle challenges and pull backs, and it was like it was justified because Oliver played advantage even though there was no real advantage to be had.
Ref had already made his mind up from the start of that game, and Lamelas reputation played into the refs hands. Every one of Lamelas tackles he gets the ball first but penalised for strength. If that’s fouling, then Xakas tackle in the box on Doherty is then a foul/penalty.
Sick of a, the result and performance as main factors, but b, doesn’t take away from the fact, that that was the worst ref display I’ve seen this season.
theShiznit
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The instance in question where a pass to free Doherty was on and Alan Smith chimed in something about not using his right foot was pretty moot as the pass was a very simple one for a left footer as much as a right footer... if it was seen.
If you don't see the pass then you cannot make it left or right foot.
Like you say, many problems in that match and Erik's right foot was not one of them.
Trix
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In what way?
al_pacino
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I've seen others being given the benefit of the doubt in this situation. Maybe he did set out to whack him but that's not what I thought on first viewing.
weststandyid
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because it was a dreadful challenge in the box and clattered the man without taking any ball?
weststandyid
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the bias on here is incredible. two stupid yellows, both justified.
The only way he was unlucky it that
1. generally waving behind you like a madman and sometimes poking an eye out is generally never punished
2. You generally have to commit a red card offense to get that second yellow card.
The unlucky part was that this ref wasn't as incompetent in judging that incident as most other referees.
1. generally waving behind you like a madman and sometimes poking an eye out is generally never punished
2. You generally have to commit a red card offense to get that second yellow card.
The unlucky part was that this ref wasn't as incompetent in judging that incident as most other referees.
