Harry Kane

Bluto Blutarsky · May 23, 2021

sundanceyid10 said:
So we should grow some balls and hold him to his contract, it is more valuable to us the the money.

We can’t actually enforce the contract if Kane is insistent on leaving.

The ball is in Kane’s court to decide how broken his relationship with Levy is -ie how motivated Kane is to simply be somewhere else.

Aphex · May 23, 2021

Bluto Blutarsky said:
We can’t actually enforce the contract if Kane is insistent on leaving.

The ball is in Kane’s court to decide how broken his relationship with Levy is -ie how motivated Kane is to simply be somewhere else.

What do you mean we can't enforce the contract?

McFlash · May 23, 2021

Maybe it's because I've started on the beers already but my mood today is that if he goes to a Prem club, then fuck him!
All credit to him if he went abroad to win things as that in itself, is a challenge on both a personal and professional level.
Going to somewhere like City is the easy option and would get no respect from me.

yojambo · May 23, 2021

coy-spurs1882 said:
the dawn won't come as long as those 2 c**ts joe lewis and daniel levy are still here

Then let's get new c**ts.

The Scarecrow · May 23, 2021

Rout-Ledge said:
And who gave Baldini free reign? Levy is a master at passing the buck.

Isn't this exactly what everyone says Levy must do? Hire a DoF and step away from the football side? He's done that with Comolli and Baldini, with varying success in both cases, so it's no wonder he wants to be a little closer himself. But slamming him for being too hands on and also slamming him for delegating responsibility means he really can't win. Take Monchi as an example. Everyone wanted him here during his first stint at Sevilla. He then goes to Roma, and everyone thinks they've done great in securing him, but he flops completely. But you surely can't blame the Roma hierarchy for trying?

tony0379 · May 23, 2021

Well Herc did say we'd all be happy. ????????

Zippy1980 · May 23, 2021

McFlash said:
Maybe it's because I've started on the beers already but my mood today is that if he goes to a Prem club, then fuck him!
All credit to him if he went abroad to win things as that in itself, is a challenge on both a personal and professional level.
Going to somewhere like City is the easy option and would get no respect from me.

Out of all the clubs in the prem I would want it to be City

Gb160 · May 23, 2021

McFlash said:
Maybe it's because I've started on the beers already but my mood today is that if he goes to a Prem club, then fuck him!
All credit to him if he went abroad to win things as that in itself, is a challenge on both a personal and professional level.
Going to somewhere like City is the easy option and would get no respect from me.

It's mental that going to a club that guarantees trophies is somehow 'showing ambition'.

Bluto Blutarsky · May 23, 2021

Aphex said:
What do you mean we can't enforce the contract?

Kane has the ability to unilaterally terminate the contract after 3 years and pay a fee set by FIFA based on wages owed and previous transfer fees of the player. In Kane’s case that is roughly £36m plus a little bit of other fees tacked on since he has no prior transfer fees.

spids · May 23, 2021

Aphex said:
What do you mean we can't enforce the contract?

Websters Law - similar to the Bosman ruling, says that a player can effectively buy out their contract after the first 3 years.

coy-spurs1882 · May 23, 2021

yojambo said:
Then let's get new c**ts.

i wouldn't mind if they are c**ts that are willing to invest in the squad..

Goofster · May 23, 2021

sundanceyid10 said:
But with so many big signings flopping, wouldn't have been prudent to access who is making these decisions, because we have a very very poor history of it. Someone who's job it is to evaluate talent is clearly not very good.

So what you are saying is our scouting system is to blame I guess because surely it would come down to scouts making recommendations to the board about whom the club should sign?

sundanceyid10 · May 23, 2021

Bluto Blutarsky said:
We can’t actually enforce the contract if Kane is insistent on leaving.

The ball is in Kane’s court to decide how broken his relationship with Levy is -ie how motivated Kane is to simply be somewhere else.

Of course we can he signed it freely, no one made him. It is perfectly within the the clubs prerogative to say you have to see out your contract. Kane is not going to down tools for three years, he wants Shearers record and he is a professional that signed a contract, its laughable to think he is somehow not going to try. As I have said there is a highly likely chance we waste the money anyway, we are so poor at expensive signings, There is more value in keeping him. It is the clubs decision not Kanes. It so week the way we bend over all the time.

CoopsieDeadpool · May 23, 2021

philip said:
Our front three of Son, Bale & Kane are world class. In our midfield, NDombele, like Pogba, could be the fulcrum of a title winning team, PEH is a CL quality DM, GLC a CL quality playmaker.
Even in defence, we should still have been good enough, Reguilon is CL quality as is Alderweireld. Rodon or Sanchez should have been able to be coached to a top 6 level, and when Doherty arrived, he was easily top 6 qaulity too. Lloris is world class.

Our backup is also easily good enough, with a wealth of players that would walk into any mid table first team.

Yes, we're not title quality. But Mourinho started this season with a squad more than good enough to be solid top 4 and to be in the title mix for much of the season.

Sorry, I know it's the Kane thread.

Yeah I'm in a stinking mood & feel like hating everyone today, so I guess I deserve the pelters that come my way when I say, I disagree with your opinion about PEH.

He's a solid enough player, but limited, in my opinion. CL quality players breeze past him with ease on a regular basis. In fact, any mobile/skillful player does, and the only way he can stop them, is by committing petty fouls.

I appreciate many on here do rate the guy. But the modern game involves much more than shouting at others and thumping your chest every now and again.

Just ask yourselves this. Assuming we are indeed a top 6 club (yeah, I know. But use your imagination) how many of the other top 6 clubs to you reckon would want him as the mainstay in their midfield? And why didn't they go for him when we bought him for literally peanuts?

Just my opinion.

MassadaTom · May 23, 2021

tony0379 said:
Well Herc did say we'd all be happy. ????????

And scorpion promised frog not to sting.

longdistancespursfan · May 23, 2021

Bluto Blutarsky said:
We can’t actually enforce the contract if Kane is insistent on leaving.

The ball is in Kane’s court to decide how broken his relationship with Levy is -ie how motivated Kane is to simply be somewhere else.

of course we can, zaha was desperate to join arse but palace held him to his contract unless someone paid their price which nobody did

price for kane should be 200 million this summer.

rossdapep · May 23, 2021

sundanceyid10 said:
But with so many big signings flopping, wouldn't have been prudent to access who is making these decisions, because we have a very very poor history of it. Someone who's job it is to evaluate talent is clearly not very good.

Its because players are being chosen by numerous individuals.

Ndombele, Lo Celso - Poch
Bergwijn, Clarke, Sessegnon - Hitchen
Bale - Levy
Vinicius, Hojbjerg, Doherty - Mourinho
Rodon - Birch

Can you honestly envisage a succesful team when different players are being brought in with different skill sets by different people.

Now compare that to Leicester. The scouting team have a defined characteristic that they need from players, Rodgers then assesses the options, chooses his fave and they go and get him.

We complicate ours. And its complicated more so by the fact we get caught between established player and hot prospect.

Rout-Ledge · May 23, 2021

The Scarecrow said:
Isn't this exactly what everyone says Levy must do? Hire a DoF and step away from the football side? He's done that with Comolli and Baldini, with varying success in both cases, so it's no wonder he wants to be a little closer himself. But slamming him for being too hands on and also slamming him for delegating responsibility means he really can't win. Take Monchi as an example. Everyone wanted him here during his first stint at Sevilla. He then goes to Roma, and everyone thinks they've done great in securing him, but he flops completely. But you surely can't blame the Roma hierarchy for trying?

I wasn’t slamming him for delegating, I was being cynical about the proposition that that abject failure of a window was someone else’s fault. Obviously Levy needs to take a less hands on role in the transfer market, but that doesn’t mean that if it still goes wrong he gets to wash his hands of it. The guy who gets appointed needs to be right too, and it’s Levy’s responsibility to get it right.

Zippy1980 · May 23, 2021

First time I’ve heard of the Webster rule. Has any top level player actually used it?

Bluto Blutarsky · May 23, 2021

Zippy1980 said:
First time I’ve heard of the Webster rule. Has any top level player actually used it?

No.

but the “good” news is Kane has to give notice within 15 days of today. So we will know pretty quickly if he is invoking those rights. But if he does, club will be screwed.

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