Nuno Espírito Santo appointed new Head Coach

yiddopaul said:

It's much easier for a player to fulfill his ambitions by joining a 'guaranteed-to-win-a-trophy-team' like City. (Glory hunter is what we used to call it). Much more difficult for a club to achieve this with all its moving parts and money involved.

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True.
City will win with or without Harry but a player can’t just say, I want to go to City, they have to be good enough to get signed and play.
Harry is and City increase their chances of winning with him.
Spurs, at this moment in time, are showing no ambition. Signing and backing Conte would have done that.
We’ve opted for an out of work Manager, two months down the line, when he was available most of that time.
Clearly a good guy, but it’s not an ambitious appointment, it doesn’t say we’re out to get back to where we have recently been.

MassadaTom said:

Paratici first managerial target was Conte.
Wolf's owners own Gestifute.
Mendes owns Nuno as much as he owns him.

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exactly what I said in my original post. Nuno is a yes man to Levy and Mendes.

check in on Trix’s messages today for a much more inside view of what Nuno’s signing means for the cementing of Mendes’s influence on Spurs

freeeki said:

“A proper manager”.

Nuno may not have been your first choice - he wasn’t most people’s first choice - but he took Wolves from the championship and made them solid top half finishers.

And before someone bores us all talking about money, don’t.

A large portion of his Wolves squad are players he brought up from the championship and made them into serious PL players, some of whom have since moved to bigger clubs.

He also took Rio Ave - literal nobodies - to two cup finals in one season and into the Europa League for the only time in their history.

His CV doesn’t compare to Conte’s, or even Jose’s, but he is objectively the very definition of a “proper manager”.

Anyone who’s writing him off before he’s even begun can fuck all the way off, quite frankly. The guy deserves a chance, and there is ZERO excuse for any of our fans to not be behind him at this stage. Zero.

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freeeki said:

“A proper manager”.

Nuno may not have been your first choice - he wasn’t most people’s first choice - but he took Wolves from the championship and made them solid top half finishers.

And before someone bores us all talking about money, don’t.

A large portion of his Wolves squad are players he brought up from the championship and made them into serious PL players, some of whom have since moved to bigger clubs.

He also took Rio Ave - literal nobodies - to two cup finals in one season and into the Europa League for the only time in their history.

His CV doesn’t compare to Conte’s, or even Jose’s, but he is objectively the very definition of a “proper manager”.

Anyone who’s writing him off before he’s even begun can fuck all the way off, quite frankly. The guy deserves a chance, and there is ZERO excuse for any of our fans to not be behind him at this stage. Zero.

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His CV does not compare to the kind of managers we should be looking for, or indeed have had managing us the past seasons.

He is also a defensively minded manager and I fear we’ll see more of the same we had under Mourinho.

I’ll be happy to eat my words at the end of the season, but I very much doubt I’ll have to.

Either way, it’s not like I get to decide so we’ll obviously have to back him and hope he does wonders. Nothing would make me happier

He looks like he's made from the same leather my sister's sofa is made of.

Good luck, neat beard.

freeeki said:

“A proper manager”.

Nuno may not have been your first choice - he wasn’t most people’s first choice - but he took Wolves from the championship and made them solid top half finishers.

And before someone bores us all talking about money, don’t.

A large portion of his Wolves squad are players he brought up from the championship and made them into serious PL players, some of whom have since moved to bigger clubs.

He also took Rio Ave - literal nobodies - to two cup finals in one season and into the Europa League for the only time in their history.

His CV doesn’t compare to Conte’s, or even Jose’s, but he is objectively the very definition of a “proper manager”.

Anyone who’s writing him off before he’s even begun can fuck all the way off, quite frankly. The guy deserves a chance, and there is ZERO excuse for any of our fans to not be behind him at this stage. Zero.

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his resume is better than Poch's when he took us on. And his man management style very similar. i'll keep saying it, he could have been first choice if not for the recency bias of last season and the concurrent glossing over of all the hardships Wolves had to endure last year. Lets do him and all of us a favour, and choose to believe, there's plenty of evidence for it.

sbrustad said:

His CV does not compare to the kind of managers we should be looking for, or indeed have had managing us the past seasons.

He is also a defensively minded manager and I fear we’ll see more of the same we had under Mourinho.

I’ll be happy to eat my words at the end of the season, but I very much doubt I’ll have to.

Either way, it’s not like I get to decide so we’ll obviously have to back him and hope he does wonders. Nothing would make me happier

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i disagreed with your post because i really don't think this is true. He went defencsive last year to save Wolves in light of injuries, player exits and tiredness... but i don't believe his time before last year backs up this claim.. Jesus, even the games against us the year before, you must have seen those?!?!

sbrustad said:

His CV does not compare to the kind of managers we should be looking for, or indeed have had managing us the past seasons.

He is also a defensively minded manager and I fear we’ll see more of the same we had under Mourinho.

I’ll be happy to eat my words at the end of the season, but I very much doubt I’ll have to.

Either way, it’s not like I get to decide so we’ll obviously have to back him and hope he does wonders. Nothing would make me happier

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Cv’s our previous managers have had. Mourinho leads the way, pathetic for us.
I can think f Jaques Santini who’d won a World Cup, disastrous.George Graham....Arsenal legend.
Sherwood, Gross, Francis, Ardilles, Ramos, Jol....managerial cv’s???....Even Poch had nothing to brag about when he came to us.

sbrustad said:

His CV does not compare to the kind of managers we should be looking for, or indeed have had managing us the past seasons.

He is also a defensively minded manager and I fear we’ll see more of the same we had under Mourinho.

I’ll be happy to eat my words at the end of the season, but I very much doubt I’ll have to.

Either way, it’s not like I get to decide so we’ll obviously have to back him and hope he does wonders. Nothing would make me happier

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Try getting behind the guy and dropping the tiresome Mystic Meg act then, dickwad.

sbrustad said:

I would rather have Mason in charge for as long as it’d take to get a proper manager in. Super disappointing and shows a big lack of ambition.

I’ll back the team of course but it does feel like we’re regressing in just about every area.

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I mean there is no doubt about it. We have, we are, we will.

Its started 4 years ago ish. We are no where near to stopping this rot.

Jules77 said:

i disagreed with your post because i really don't think this is true. He went defencsive last year to save Wolves in light of injuries, player exits and tiredness... but i don't believe his time before last year backs up this claim.. Jesus, even the games against us the year before, you must have seen those?!?!

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I think the team was built on defensive solidity, but they were excellent at soaking up pressure and hitting on the break when facing “bigger” sides, like his record shows. Did better against top 6 than bottom 6, that shows a style of play that I think after Mourinho we’re fairly familiar with.

Anyway, I’d be happy to be wrong in this case.

freeeki said:

Try getting behind the guy and dropping the tiresome Mystic Meg act then, dickwad.

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Wow, so edgy.

Dennism said:

He is here now and we need to back him. No point in judging him before a ball has been kicked.

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I'm won't judge him before we see the performances. But I will judge the club's rationale. Basically we went for a cheaper gamble/roll of the dice rather than paying what a highly proven manager like Conte would demand.

My philosophy in any business is pay what it takes for the best manager you can get. Having someone highly competent at the top is the most important investment you can make.

Who’s our next manager? said:

Cv’s our previous managers have had. Mourinho leads the way, pathetic for us.
I can think f Jaques Santini who’d won a World Cup, disastrous.George Graham....Arsenal legend.
Sherwood, Gross, Francis, Ardilles, Ramos, Jol....managerial cv’s???....Even Poch had nothing to brag about when he came to us.

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Agreed. Even going back further Bill Nicholson and Keith Burkinshaw, our two most successful managers, didn't have much to write about and the latter got us relegated.
If Nuno can sort out the defence and gets to keep Son and Kane I think we could do well. I think he'll get the players onside.

First off let’s be honest, this is an appointment made largely because we’ve run out of time to attract most options.

As I said for the last week or so, I’d have been shocked if at this point we’d got a manager in who is already employed – not because of lack of money/penny-pinching as some are claiming but because they’ll all be weeks deep in planning pre-season etc, the most crucial training period of the year, at their clubs and it would take a humungous set of bollocks to jump ship, change your focus and mindset, and in literally a few days plan something entirely new at a new club and get started on the fly. Especially at a club suffering from instability and going through big change. By now it was always going to be someone out of work and a narrow field of options.

In the end we’ve clearly had to settle for what we could get in an ever diminishing field. If he’d been the clear choice he’d have been in weeks ago. I don’t think it’s mean-spirited to say in this case that if his reign does work out it will be due to a large dollop of luck rather than judgement on the clubs part.


As for my personal thoughts on Nuno… Well he’s clearly a competent coach with a solid CV and decent PL pedigree. But he’s not someone who’d have come to mind for me as a possible option.

As anyone who does take any notice of my posts knows, I am all about performance as the bedrock to what we do and how I see and assess football. I like and want pressing, I like and want possession. I like and want us to play the game in the opponents half. I expect this to a high standard, for 90 minutes. He’s been in the PL a few years now so we’ve had plenty to look at but I’ve never watched a Wolves game and been blown away by anything spectacular they’ve done – either with or without the ball – on a consistent basis and thought “wouldn’t mind a bit of that at Spurs”.

So ultimately I will say what I say for every manager we appoint – I’m open to what he can do, but we shall see. I will post as I always post and judge the guy purely on what I see served up on the football pitch. If I like what I see I will say so, equally if I don’t like it I will criticise it. Win, lose, or draw, and whatever position in the table we find ourselves.

Let it begin.......

so we have a place holder till Poch is available

Twizzle said:

so we have a place holder till Poch is available

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I hope Nuno is a roaring success so we can finally get over fucking Poch tbh

The selection process was a disgrace, but it is now time for those with some critical ability to back off and let the hyper-positives and optimists let off some steam.

My expectation is 7th place. I don't think that unreasonable.

freeeki said:

I hope Nuno is a roaring success so we can finally get over fucking Poch tbh

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Agree with this. Poch has been and gone. Gave us a good time probably the best time since the 80's but was lucky to have a lot of young hungry players willing to prove themselves. Took us to the night of our modern lives at Ajax. Let him go and don't look back.

The first two seasons in the prem, I feared Wolves. I thought they were better than us in the 19/20 season, and we were lucky they ran out of gas.

During this season Nuno’s stock was high. I don’t think judging him on last seasons performance, is a true reflection of his style.

I am so glad this shit show is over, NES is here for the start of pre-season, he is a proper manager/coach. Hopefully our Training facility has been developing some talent to add to our returning loaned players. We could pull a couple of rabbits out of hats with our new DOF yet too.
COYS

I voted for Nuno 2 months ago and I got 35 disagrees. He better not let me down now!