Spurslove
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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…
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Guernman
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That second half was the same shit Spurs have been serving up all season. Go a goal up and just stop playing. We needed to have the balls to go for a second goal.
Southgate got a lot right this tournament to be fair, but bringing on two kids to just take penalties when they haven't kicked a ball all night is just putting much too much pressure on them.
Southgate got a lot right this tournament to be fair, but bringing on two kids to just take penalties when they haven't kicked a ball all night is just putting much too much pressure on them.
mark87
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No he knows all about being a bellend.
stov
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If he was to take a penalty it would be nice to have 15 minutes to get warmed up.
Both him and Sterling were ineffective and it is quite simple as to why. Not their ability, just the fact England sat back and then had to defend a talented Italy attack all 2nd half. Hard for attacking players to offer much if you don't give them the ball.
SirNiNyHotspur
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Southgate rightly got the credit when he got us through the final but he totally screwed up that final, sat back far too much, we actually looked good the 5% we went forward, could have caused Italy much more problems, Mason was anonymous, Grealish twice the player, and bringing on players seconds before pens setting yourself up, should have been much agressive after Cheisa went off, he was the only Italian that looked dangerous on break.
Presumably Saka took it because Sterling said "nah I don't fancy it". Saka looked out of his depth for most of the time he was on the pitch tonight but it's just not fair to pile that much pressure onto a teenager like that, even if he was eager to step up.
panoma
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Baffling Mount started over Grealish.
I’m a Scotland fan and one of the few behind England tonight and can take a fairly balanced view but Gareth got it horrifically wrong on many fronts;
- Hendo for Rice when Rice was on a MOTM performance.
- Saka for Trippier was the right formation change but the wrong player. Grealish, Foden or Sancho was by far the better option. Not fair on Saka but it was obvious the occasion was too much for him - backed off a few challenges and was on his heels on a number of situations - makes it even more bizarre he was allowed to take a pen.
- Sterling … amazing ability, shocking decision maker but where was the unstoppable Sterling when it came to pens??
- Sancho and Rashford - why did he put them on, out of position, risk the last 4 minutes and only for them to take pens after not touching the ball.
- and the final insult - 19 year old Saka - he shouldn’t have been on the list never mind taking the decisive penalty.
im stunned - and I’ll bet Foden, Grealish and the rest of the under used subs were too at the lack of attacking intent 2nd half and ET. 2 old boys on yellows at the back, why didn’t he just put the foot down, Chisea wasthe onlyreal threat for Italy and he was gone. No Insigne, no Immobile.
id Far rather have taken my chances in ET on front foot than a lottery of pens when England clearly had the better team.
it’s a travesty - Italy can’t believe their luck
and worse still you can’t sack him either!!
- Hendo for Rice when Rice was on a MOTM performance.
- Saka for Trippier was the right formation change but the wrong player. Grealish, Foden or Sancho was by far the better option. Not fair on Saka but it was obvious the occasion was too much for him - backed off a few challenges and was on his heels on a number of situations - makes it even more bizarre he was allowed to take a pen.
- Sterling … amazing ability, shocking decision maker but where was the unstoppable Sterling when it came to pens??
- Sancho and Rashford - why did he put them on, out of position, risk the last 4 minutes and only for them to take pens after not touching the ball.
- and the final insult - 19 year old Saka - he shouldn’t have been on the list never mind taking the decisive penalty.
im stunned - and I’ll bet Foden, Grealish and the rest of the under used subs were too at the lack of attacking intent 2nd half and ET. 2 old boys on yellows at the back, why didn’t he just put the foot down, Chisea wasthe onlyreal threat for Italy and he was gone. No Insigne, no Immobile.
id Far rather have taken my chances in ET on front foot than a lottery of pens when England clearly had the better team.
it’s a travesty - Italy can’t believe their luck
and worse still you can’t sack him either!!
ajspurs
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This is my issue too. It's hard to argue with a World Cup semi-final and Euros Final (didn't cross the line but much better than we'd have thought) but I'm still far from convinced with the football we play. So much talent at our disposal and I still feel like we barely utilise it.
As you and others have said, can only feel super sorry for Saka.
mark87
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It wouldn't have made a difference, imo. If ha played 15 minutes and missed, people would said he would've had 30 minutes on the pitch, it would've been neverending.
fuzzylogic
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Don’t really agree with that, I’d rather have someone who confident stepping up than someone who’s hiding trying no to make eye contact or doesn’t believe in their ability to do the job. Anyway that’s my opinion on it.
barry
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No burden. It's done. You had the balls to take the chance, you missed, you roll on. Such is life.
fortworthspur
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England really were second best for the last 110 minutes. Had Southgate made a change before Italy equalized it might have ended differently I suppose.
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Insane. I've never got out of my chair and screamed at the tv about a penalty taker before a penalty has even been taken, but I did with Saka.
Think Southgate has some kind of penalty related Munchausen's. He seemed to do everything he could to engineer this.
Bluto Blutarsky
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Felt like I was watching Spurs from the last year.
glacierSpurs
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It can be very interesting if you re-read this thread. You will find many agreements, then disagreements, then agreements again. ?
Johnny J
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Obviously it's done. But you only have to hear Southgate talk about Euro 96 to know it's a burden.