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SSC

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Is it though? To DL, absolutely. To the Don....who knows players value across the globe over...I'd argue no. Doesn't necessarily mean that we want to spend £75M (I think we can align JJ's emoji's to the £60M fee courted this morning).

Inter obviously want £75M....our last negotiable transfer with them didn't go too well either.....

Like anything else, he's worth what the buying party are willing to spend. Same applies for Kane.

Imagine Son, Kane and Martinez..Mama mia

You're probably going to need to find another filling for your sandwich.
 

spids

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Don't disagree with the idea but Lautaro isn't rapid - he's more of an Aguero type in that he's small and nimble rather than actively quick. Bergwijn and Lucas are both much faster.

I know he is not fast over 20 or 30m but, like Aguero, making runs in the box he is rapid. Fast feet and great movement. 2 footed finishing.
 

razor1981

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His current contract situation at Inter looks like it could work in our favour (If we can agree a fee).

As far as I can tell , he's still on the original contract he signed when he joined Inter 3 years ago, and earns around £40k-£50k per week with 2 years left to run.

Inter's financial situation means that they are under pressure to significantly reduce their wage bill, so are not really in a position to be offering new improved contracts to any of their existing squad, but they also don't want to run the risk of contracts running down and players eventually leaving for nothing.

There were rumours that Lautaro was initially asking for around £100k pw to sign a new deal, but had since dropped his demands to around £80k pw - though it's unclear whether Inter would be willing or able to even meet this reduced figure.

So, if we are able to agree a fee with Inter, it would likely mean that the player's options are to either stay at Inter on his current contract of £40k - £50k pw, or join us on a contract of probably something like 3 times that amount. In that situation, it seems very unlikely that he (and his agent) would opt to stay in Milan.

FUN FACT: Lautaro's agent also has former Tottenham star Zeki Fryers on his books.
 

journeyman

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Martínez is the same category as Vlahovic - if we’re buying him, it’s because we’re cashing in on Kane. With everything I’ve read, can’t see how we afford it otherwise.
 

Galahad

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With regard to Inter Milan :
The club are owned by a Chinese company called Suning. Covid has hit it hard and in an an effort to what they called 'improve equity structure' they had to sell 23% of their shares to state owned investors. This has coincided with Chinese president XI Jingping handing down new directives for Chinese owners of football clubs in Europe to pull out of the sport, instead ordering them to refocus their efforts on a national level.
They bought Inter in 2016 and it is estimated they have invested a staggering $845m. Now they are desperate to sell the football club and an offer from a company called BC Partners (British based) collapsed earlier this year. Suning valued Inter Milan at $1.2bn whilst BC only offered $903m.
The club desperately needs an injection of capital. There are talks of salaries not being paid and players foregoing their title winning bonuses from last season to try and help out. The financial press estimate they lost $120m in 2020 and this years estimate lies between $180m and $250m. They are currently in talks to try and arrange for a $300m loan to try and cover their losses. They have also lost €54m of sponsorship revenue from the expiration of contracts with Fullshare Holding Limited, King Dawn Investments Limited and Beijing Yixinshijie .
Bloomberg estimate their total debts at $602m so they are in desperate trouble financially.

With regard to Italian football as a whole then the pandemic has hit hard but as someone remarked to me earlier this week there are a lot of loan/option to buy deals being negotiated in order to try and gain the time required for a recovery. This is perfectly illustrated by Fabio's recent activities in the transfer market which is what he always attempted at Juve.
There is no doubt that the current financial status of Serie A is unsustainable. Their losses totalled €754m last year (only €292m the year before).
There are only 3 (bank) debt free clubs at this moment in time, Cagliari, Fiorentina and Naples. The highest net debts (in euros) are our friends Inter Milan at €630m, Juventus €458m and Roma €552m. One of the other healthy clubs is one we have just had dealings with, Atalanta, who have posted a profit for four seasons running due to Champions League qualification and exceptionally good transfer deals. (Romero being a classic example).

So you can see that currently Inter Milan and Italian football are both in a mess financially, largely due to what I would term as compulsively high purchases in recent years. It is hoped that this massive swing towards loan deals will prove a major factor in allowing the situation to recover.

I hope that gives you a better picture. In answer to your other question my answer would be 'No', give me Vlahovic instead, but that is only my personal opinion and I am open to be persuaded otherwise should Spurs just go for him and not buy the two together.

Sorry for the long post, but you did ask (y)
Thank you, my friend! That was a very interesting bit of information! (y)
 

Romario

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One other interesting fact when you consider how much interest is being shown in Serie A players at the moment (just been told this in a bar so haven't checked). It has been ten years since an Italian side won a continental title. Yet the country won Euro2020.
 

Spurslove

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According to some leading 'voices' we've agreed a deal with Inter but it's just now up to the player. Hopefully Fabio is going to make him an offer he can't refuse...
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Spurslove

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Martínez is the same category as Vlahovic - if we’re buying him, it’s because we’re cashing in on Kane. With everything I’ve read, can’t see how we afford it otherwise.

I thought it was confirmed (by Ally Gold) that we've got Romero on a loan deal with an option to buy. It may even have been an obligation, but I'm not sure... this means we've still got plenty wonga. Fabio is showing us all why he was at Juve all those years, he's proving himself to a lot of Spurs people right now.
 

Whoami?

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Personally think we'll just a push Martinez over the line even with Harry still at the club. Once/If we sell Harry, then i think we'll go for Vlahovic as well. Having both Vlahovic with Martinez and Son should be enough fire power to get us through the season.
 

Giovanni

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Aug 31, 2012
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His current contract situation at Inter looks like it could work in our favour (If we can agree a fee).

As far as I can tell , he's still on the original contract he signed when he joined Inter 3 years ago, and earns around £40k-£50k per week with 2 years left to run.

Inter's financial situation means that they are under pressure to significantly reduce their wage bill, so are not really in a position to be offering new improved contracts to any of their existing squad, but they also don't want to run the risk of contracts running down and players eventually leaving for nothing.

There were rumours that Lautaro was initially asking for around £100k pw to sign a new deal, but had since dropped his demands to around £80k pw - though it's unclear whether Inter would be willing or able to even meet this reduced figure.

So, if we are able to agree a fee with Inter, it would likely mean that the player's options are to either stay at Inter on his current contract of £40k - £50k pw, or join us on a contract of probably something like 3 times that amount. In that situation, it seems very unlikely that he (and his agent) would opt to stay in Milan.

FUN FACT: Lautaro's agent also has former Tottenham star Zeki Fryers on his books.

This in a nutshell. Secondly they may well owe us a few million from the eriksen transfer......and it may be in there best interests to not pay out on any moneys owed and this could work in our favour, especially for a player whos future is unknown and having largely lost an asset in eriksen(value wise).

Eriksen transfered for roughly what 25m? If they still owe us 10m it may appeal to them to sell us martinez for 60m and scrub off the 10m owed for eriksen.

Then i suppose the ball would be in kanes court. Stay and play with with the likes of martinez, romero and co who are both top quality players with undoubted quality or leave and we go get vlahovic.

Upto the moris piper to decide.
 

Mattspurs1982

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Aug 2, 2011
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With regard to Inter Milan :
The club are owned by a Chinese company called Suning. Covid has hit it hard and in an an effort to what they called 'improve equity structure' they had to sell 23% of their shares to state owned investors. This has coincided with Chinese president XI Jingping handing down new directives for Chinese owners of football clubs in Europe to pull out of the sport, instead ordering them to refocus their efforts on a national level.
They bought Inter in 2016 and it is estimated they have invested a staggering $845m. Now they are desperate to sell the football club and an offer from a company called BC Partners (British based) collapsed earlier this year. Suning valued Inter Milan at $1.2bn whilst BC only offered $903m.
The club desperately needs an injection of capital. There are talks of salaries not being paid and players foregoing their title winning bonuses from last season to try and help out. The financial press estimate they lost $120m in 2020 and this years estimate lies between $180m and $250m. They are currently in talks to try and arrange for a $300m loan to try and cover their losses. They have also lost €54m of sponsorship revenue from the expiration of contracts with Fullshare Holding Limited, King Dawn Investments Limited and Beijing Yixinshijie .
Bloomberg estimate their total debts at $602m so they are in desperate trouble financially.

With regard to Italian football as a whole then the pandemic has hit hard but as someone remarked to me earlier this week there are a lot of loan/option to buy deals being negotiated in order to try and gain the time required for a recovery. This is perfectly illustrated by Fabio's recent activities in the transfer market which is what he always attempted at Juve.
There is no doubt that the current financial status of Serie A is unsustainable. Their losses totalled €754m last year (only €292m the year before).
There are only 3 (bank) debt free clubs at this moment in time, Cagliari, Fiorentina and Naples. The highest net debts (in euros) are our friends Inter Milan at €630m, Juventus €458m and Roma €552m. One of the other healthy clubs is one we have just had dealings with, Atalanta, who have posted a profit for four seasons running due to Champions League qualification and exceptionally good transfer deals. (Romero being a classic example).

So you can see that currently Inter Milan and Italian football are both in a mess financially, largely due to what I would term as compulsively high purchases in recent years. It is hoped that this massive swing towards loan deals will prove a major factor in allowing the situation to recover.

I hope that gives you a better picture. In answer to your other question my answer would be 'No', give me Vlahovic instead, but that is only my personal opinion and I am open to be persuaded otherwise should Spurs just go for him and not buy the two together.

Sorry for the long post, but you did ask (y)

you should be a pundit my friend. Superb knowledge and much appreciated again
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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Ally Gold saying this could be one that rumbles on.

Sounds like we agreed a deal with them but they are now using the Lukaku deal as an excuse to try and negotiate at a higher price (and take some of the heat off until they've signed a striker or two).

With Lautaro not agreeing a new deal they may have to consider an improved offer seriously, especially if they are in that much trouble financially.
 
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