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Can't get my head around how this has all played out. I've adored him as a player and defended him against all kinds of vitriol through the years, even during the Euros, but I'm desperate for him to go now. He's a rotten apple that needs removed by the end of the window. His value will never be as high again and, unfortunately, it's now time for us to cash in.
 
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Darrenh61

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He wants to play for the most successful club in England for the past ten years. We will only allow that at the right price. What happens between is what goes on in any negotiation where both parties aren’t united on their wishes from the deal. I really don’t see the problem if City don’t stump up by august 23/4 we accept he’s our player and he will still be motivated to win trophies and individual prizes to keep his England place and earn a transfer next summer. It’s a bit naive to think any employee loves his club the way we do as fans.
 
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Darrenh61 said:
He wants to play for the most successful club in England for the past ten years. We will only allow that at the right price. What happens between is what goes on in any negotiation where both parties aren’t united on their wishes from the deal. I really don’t see the problem if City don’t stump up by august 23/4 we accept he’s our player and he will still be motivated to win trophies and individual prizes to keep his England place and earn a transfer next summer. It’s a bit naive to think any employee loves his club the way we do as fans.
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No one is that naive. We just expect a bit more respect.
 
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fishhhandaricecake said:
This is an interesting one because with Harry having 3 years left we hold all the cards BUT its a fine balance because if he's really had his head turned and wants out then if :
Scenario 1 is Levy holds out for say £175m straight cash and City don't pay up then we are left with a very good but unsettled key player.

Scenario 2 being we do negotiate a bit and settle for say £130-150m cash or £120m + a player then we get a good chunk of cash for the re-build and possibly a good player and we've moved on a player who will be having a negative influence on the dressing room.

I see why Levy is holding a strong stance but I think it is important to take all factors into consideration with any decision and negotiation etc rather than just being stubborn and saying I want x amount or no deal, ironically what you need to do is what Levy said in his interview is "we will do what is best for the club".

At this point I'd still rather we sold and looked to just negotiate a fair price and get it sorted asap.
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You seem to be wanting us to negotiate a fair price for Man City, rather than a fair price for ourselves. £130-150m or £120m + a player Man City wants to move on is not a fair price for us, but would be much better value for City than the recent Grealish and Lukaku deals.

What makes you think £175m is Levy's starting point for negotiations? I think it's more likely to be £200m+, with £175m being closer to the minimum sale price than the starting point.

Chelsea just paid almost £100m for Lukaku, which will inflate the value of other strikers - including Kane's and anyone we want to buy to replace him.
No-one who could adequately replace Kane is available (or willing to join a non-CL team), so this bumps up the price further. It wouldn't be in our interest to sell Kane for a fee that isn't sufficient to at least give us a chance of bringing our team back up to the level it was with Kane.

If Grealish (who plays in a position where City already had an embarrassment of depth and quality) is worth £100m to City, Kane (who plays in the position they most need to upgrade to take their team on to the next level) must be worth considerably more (2-3 times more?) to them.

Kane is the player City wants and needs. Last season, he got almost as many goals and assists (50) as Lukaku and Grealish managed between them (59).
If we had replaced Kane with Lukaku + Grealish (£197.5m of players), the stats suggest this would reduce the number of goals we score, once you factor in that one of our other attacking players (and their goals & assists) would need to be dropped for Grealish - so this would make our team worse. Moura (who half of SC thinks isn't good enough for us) got almost as many goals and assists as Grealish last season (17 vs. 19). Son (and Bale) both got more goals and assists than Grealish.

So, taking all of those factors into consideration, the "x amount" that Levy is holding out for probably is a fair price.
 
Moonie

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Oh dear god, are those city fans mad? So a businessman who runs a club within its own means and turnover is the one in the wrong? :ROFLMAO:

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Gollorius

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Darrenh61 said:
He wants to play for the most successful club in England for the past ten years. We will only allow that at the right price. What happens between is what goes on in any negotiation where both parties aren’t united on their wishes from the deal. I really don’t see the problem if City don’t stump up by august 23/4 we accept he’s our player and he will still be motivated to win trophies and individual prizes to keep his England place and earn a transfer next summer. It’s a bit naive to think any employee loves his club the way we do as fans.
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I get your point. However, while he is an employee he is also apparently a fan - something that doesn't make sense when he's behaving this way. For example, I can't imagine Harry Winks acting this way (although I didn't see this coming from Kane either) - he seems like a man who is delighted to be playing for the club he supports. Granted, Kane is a much better player in his position than Winks is in his but for me Kane's behaviour is not that of a fan. Before all this I'd accepted that he was off, a part of me even felt like he deserved to be winning things (and I still believe that) but not like this. The disrespect is unacceptable. It's not even our fault - a satisfactory bid comes in and we accept. There hasn't been one, so this behaviour is just plain odd.

"I love this club, but not more than money or easy medals".

Me? I'd happily spend my career at Spurs and win nothing knowing I gave my all for what is in all honesty my first love. (Don't tell the Mrs)
 
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fishhhandaricecake said:
1 & 2 - no chance, he's our best striker and captain he will be picked there is little to no risk there
3 & 4 - these would be motivations yes

But you can't deny that having such an influential key player in and around the team who the others know doesn't want to be there would have a negative effect on morale especially whilst Nuno & Paratici are trying to re-build and get everyone pulling in the same direction.
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Will he be picked if he isn't playing for his club?

My point was that once the window closes he will be fully focussed and the negative impact will not be there. If he isn't fully focussed he will not get picked and he will end up missing out on the 4 things I listed.
 
Tucker

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T-Bone said:
I'd take him off pens as a punishment for how he has behaved, let him work a little harder for goals.
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Jesus. The very epitome of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

I hate the way Kane and his brother have gone about this and I’ve lost pretty much all respect for the guy, but if he stays there’s literally no benefit in letting someone else take the pens just to spite him.
 
spursfan77

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Guntz said:
Their top ITK, who is this guy - https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/members/tolmies-hairdoo.8822/#recent-content

Hasn't posted since Sunday, but he's still very confident that it gets done a few days after we play City.
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Anyone on that website who doesn’t agree he will go there they call a WUM it seems. Anyway, I saw this post which I thought interesting. I’m busy this afternoon but if anyone else fancies watching it?

“City Xtra have a live youtube interview with Romano at 2.45 today for anyone interested. Whether you think he is Mr Tap In or Mr Here We Go it may be worth a watch.”
 
degoose

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I wouldn't start Kane just because he won't be fully fit and we have played multiple games with a settled attack. It would make no sense to start him
 
ReadieSpur

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fishhhandaricecake said:
1 & 2 - no chance, he's our best striker and captain he will be picked there is little to no risk there
3 & 4 - these would be motivations yes

But you can't deny that having such an influential key player in and around the team who the others know doesn't want to be there would have a negative effect on morale especially whilst Nuno & Paratici are trying to re-build and get everyone pulling in the same direction.
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He's not our Captain. Hugo is.
 
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