Or just have backed Poch. There's a thought
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As much as I’d love to see the back of Levy and ENIC the biggest problem that remains is who would now be willing to buy us at our current value?
Personnally, I can’t see anyone who wants to see a successful team winning trophies willing to part with that amount of money unless it’s an oil rich nation with dubious human rights issues.That would only leave another ENIC style investment company who would only be interested in making money and not the playing side, one that would do the same as Levy and do just enough to keep fans spending. I could well be wrong but with my limited knowledge of the finance world I can’t see any other options.
My informed opinion is that JL would like to cash in on his investment but unfortunately DL doesn’t and want to see his plan through to the end, quite what that is I’ve no idea, maybe the naming rights but I don’t imagine that would be it.
I don’t seriously believe that Levy has any interest in football apart from the fact that he is making a ton of money out of it and had the club sold Kane with Levy getting his asking price I don’t believe for one minute that more than 50-60m would have been reinvested.
Personnally, I can’t see anyone who wants to see a successful team winning trophies willing to part with that amount of money unless it’s an oil rich nation with dubious human rights issues.That would only leave another ENIC style investment company who would only be interested in making money and not the playing side, one that would do the same as Levy and do just enough to keep fans spending. I could well be wrong but with my limited knowledge of the finance world I can’t see any other options.
My informed opinion is that JL would like to cash in on his investment but unfortunately DL doesn’t and want to see his plan through to the end, quite what that is I’ve no idea, maybe the naming rights but I don’t imagine that would be it.
I don’t seriously believe that Levy has any interest in football apart from the fact that he is making a ton of money out of it and had the club sold Kane with Levy getting his asking price I don’t believe for one minute that more than 50-60m would have been reinvested.
spursfan77
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Management - Supporters Trust Demands Meeting with Board
Look who turned up tonight for the meeting. Some say he is positive that talks will go well and they'll see his side of things.thefightingcock.co.uk
Is that Lewis In the picture?
If so hopefully he was there to relieve Daniel Levy of his duty’s!
Looking pretty well for a guy in his 80s. I guess life on a yacht treats you well, who’d have thought it!?!?!
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Most popular Premier League owners ranked with Arsenal's Stan Kroenke 16th
Owners of the Premier League's 'big six' all incurred the wrath of their supporters when proposals emerged regarding the doomed European Super League earlier this year
www.mirror.co.uk
Are we being trolled again! Or have the BSoDL been out in force influencing this apparent “research” .
Enic 5th most popular owners in the premier league!!
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From the article: Based on analysis by (edited out but ***bets).com, which analysed social media activity from fans directed towards ownersMost popular Premier League owners ranked with Arsenal's Stan Kroenke 16th
Owners of the Premier League's 'big six' all incurred the wrath of their supporters when proposals emerged regarding the doomed European Super League earlier this year
Are we being trolled again! Or have the BSoDL been out in force influencing this apparent “research” .
Enic 5th most popular owners in the premier league!!
classic clickbait fuckallism.........It has no credibility. At all
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We have to stop thinking in terms of a zero sum game - that it's either ENIC or slaver.
It doesn't have to be that way. ENIC can remain as owners. There doesn't have to be a massive change for us to become competitive again.
All it would need is to stop making purchasing decisions for financial reasons and a slight easing of the self-imposed restrictions on spending.
We can have ENIC and be happy. Either with Levy no longer the chief executive - instead have a chief executive charged with improving the club's prospects on the field, or for Levy himself to start acting the right way.
And get football people on the board. Like Ajax who have Van Der Saar as the President and Marc Overmars as the executive. We have two nominally football people on the board - Hitchen and Paratici. Arrayed against them we have Levy, who has done fuck all in football before, Donna Cullen, who has done fuck all in football before, Matthew Collecott, who has done, etc. etc., Rebecca Caplehorn, who has, etc, etc, and Jonathan Turner. I'll leave you to guess whether Jonny has done anything in football...
We're run by suits. We should be run by football people.
Look at Leicester - their owner isn't a football person, so he gives football people the tools to do things. It's not the most sustainable model as they spend far more than they earn, but we're in no danger of doing that. We have resources Leicester can only dream of. So why have they won two titles in the last six years, while we've had none?
Because they understand that a football club's primary priority is football, not finance.
It doesn't have to be that way. ENIC can remain as owners. There doesn't have to be a massive change for us to become competitive again.
All it would need is to stop making purchasing decisions for financial reasons and a slight easing of the self-imposed restrictions on spending.
We can have ENIC and be happy. Either with Levy no longer the chief executive - instead have a chief executive charged with improving the club's prospects on the field, or for Levy himself to start acting the right way.
And get football people on the board. Like Ajax who have Van Der Saar as the President and Marc Overmars as the executive. We have two nominally football people on the board - Hitchen and Paratici. Arrayed against them we have Levy, who has done fuck all in football before, Donna Cullen, who has done fuck all in football before, Matthew Collecott, who has done, etc. etc., Rebecca Caplehorn, who has, etc, etc, and Jonathan Turner. I'll leave you to guess whether Jonny has done anything in football...
We're run by suits. We should be run by football people.
Look at Leicester - their owner isn't a football person, so he gives football people the tools to do things. It's not the most sustainable model as they spend far more than they earn, but we're in no danger of doing that. We have resources Leicester can only dream of. So why have they won two titles in the last six years, while we've had none?
Because they understand that a football club's primary priority is football, not finance.
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I certainly agree with this.
But you need a sporting director and footballing people at the head of this with a clear idea of what they are doing.
If you had a DOF at the time back in 2017, they would have been able to assess that Dier and Rose (for example) were peaking and that selling them could generate 80m and they'd already have replacements lined up for half the fee.
The only issue is whether Poch was unprepared to sell at that point. We know by 2018 he was starting to want some out of the door but it sounded like he was not happy when Dier was talking to Jose.
But that's why you need a coach who understands that structure too.
It's a real shame cause we could have brought in some real depth back then and it would have allowed for smooth continuation.
rossdapep
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You're making some outstanding posts at the moment, mate.
ohtottenham!
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I agree with your general idea, Rez. But, how do either of these scenarios happen with Levy...?
tototoner
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ENIC have never been interested in improving us on the field, Levy lucked out getting in Pochettino and lucked out even more with Harry Kane coming through the ranks.
They only use our club as an investment vehicle but when ENIC stands for "English National Investment Company" this shouldn't surprise anyone
They only use our club as an investment vehicle but when ENIC stands for "English National Investment Company" this shouldn't surprise anyone
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Get it right and get to CL Final -pure luck.
Get it wrong (as the vast majority do)- you're useless.
Get it wrong (as the vast majority do)- you're useless.
ohtottenham!
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Still left with one League Cup in 20 years.
Metalhead
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Surely when you are an investment company you invest.
ohtottenham!
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Which is great for the few company shareholders that are on here. Unfortunately, the actual stakeholders aka THFC fans are not getting anything like the return on our own “investment” that ENIC is with theirs.
Metalhead
But that's a debate for another thread.....
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No what I mean is that the fact that they are an investment company should be a positive - the old adage 'speculate to accumulate' springs to mind.
tototoner
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In the club yes, not in the team
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Of course but for the long term sustainability of a football club you can't shy away from investing in the playing side.
ohtottenham!
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The fact that they're an investment company doesn't mean anything beyond getting max profit from their own investment.
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For me, it's more about the decisions that have been made over the years than the money spent. Look at the Bale money - that's as good an example as any.
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