Spurs Youth Thread 20/21
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Should have been involved on Sunday disgraceful he wasn’t tbh. We are handling this situation appallingly. He’s literally the hottest player in that league.
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Dillan again!!!!???
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Maitland-Niles is 24, you can't really compare with Tanganga. Right now we have Winks, Skipp, Kane and Tanganga from the academy regularly playing. I'm not sure Arsenal have been playing that many more than us.
One of the things that has to be understood though is Arsenal are worse than us, and have more space for youth development because of poor recruitment that has forced them to give youth a chance. Things like having Nketiah play regularly are more a testimant of something lacking. Nketiah wouldn't have got close to the appearances he's managed at Arsenal at Tottenham.
Balogun is one of, if not the hottest talents of his age group. He's 20, and despite posting hardly believable stats in the PL2 he hardly gets a look in.
Arsenal have made an effort to develop youth, but with their languishing last few years, they are in a position that is much easier to do so.
Despite what some people say we produce a decent and healthy amount of first team players, much higher than we have at any point in the past and pretty high up the league for youth team appearances. We are not, however, a top talent producer, like Man city and Chelsea and we are unlikely to be able to match that level of production. Likes of Man utd and Arsenal are more direct competitors but their isn't some crazy exceptional number of talents in this club to expect that much more than what we have seen.
Yes, right now we have a very high number of talented individuals. The individuals who stand almost an evans chance to make it at the top level, not at Spurs necessarily, are John, Devine and Scarlett.
All three are too young to expect them to be seriously pushing for involvement (though stranger things have happened) and that's without even asking the question that is first team involvement actually beneficial for their development?
It's the same with loans, there is this weird belief that playing more football is almost always the right thing for a player. But its not that simple,just ask Phil Ifill that was most certainly hurt by his early loan experiences, there is certainly an argument that troy Parrott would have been better off staying here and being coached in a way to harness his talent for the top level as right now the path he seems to be heading seems similar to that of a lot of talented kids, shuffling around the lower divisions before ending up retired or in non league before 30. Now he certainly isn't doomed to that path, but, there certainly is an argument that he might have been better off staying here.
FibreOpticJesus
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And a new contract?
mark87
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Would be nice, but I'm not hopeful.
Locotoro
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This has a lot of good points.
But I think where we as a club are really failing is our ability to create networks and relationships with clubs that would allow us to consistently send our youth throughout the football pyramid.
This is why I think B teams are so effective at developing youth players but I also understand the effect it would have on the football league. But at the very least you need to create relationships with clubs like Barnet, Stevenage, QPR, clubs in our local vicinity that we can get game time for our players and move them up the league progressing steadily.
Outside of B teams - what happened to ENIC taking over Standard Liege?
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Absolutely sick of the way Markanday is treated. Not even on the bench V Morecambe
And to yeovil also?
I’d really like to see us make more use of our youth academy.
I feel like I’m recent years we’ve really not looked at it and dipped into it more - perhaps I’m wrong and I’m willing for someone to show me otherwise.
However other than Tanganga, I don’t feel like recent seasons have really given much hope to youngsters getting blooded in to the team. Dane is probably a sort of exception, but I guess given his very young age, we’re still waiting on him to just push on a bit more.
I’d definitely like to see Devine, Markanday, John, and maybe one or two others on the bench a bit more. It just always feels like in the clubs mind the young players are so far away from the first team.
I get that people want us to challenge higher up, and that youth is a risk, but given their current form, is Markanday for example likely to be anymore of a risk off the bench than Ndombele?
As I say, maybe I’m wrong - it just feels like we aren’t getting the most from our academy and youth prospects, especially when you consider we don’t pay massive massive fees for players often and therefore could look internally for our best players.
I feel like I’m recent years we’ve really not looked at it and dipped into it more - perhaps I’m wrong and I’m willing for someone to show me otherwise.
However other than Tanganga, I don’t feel like recent seasons have really given much hope to youngsters getting blooded in to the team. Dane is probably a sort of exception, but I guess given his very young age, we’re still waiting on him to just push on a bit more.
I’d definitely like to see Devine, Markanday, John, and maybe one or two others on the bench a bit more. It just always feels like in the clubs mind the young players are so far away from the first team.
I get that people want us to challenge higher up, and that youth is a risk, but given their current form, is Markanday for example likely to be anymore of a risk off the bench than Ndombele?
As I say, maybe I’m wrong - it just feels like we aren’t getting the most from our academy and youth prospects, especially when you consider we don’t pay massive massive fees for players often and therefore could look internally for our best players.
Ghost Hardware
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Im so out of touch with our youth team and how they been doing, who is Yago Santiago and whats he like? Apart from being Spanish i know nothing about him.
ShelfWatcher
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We have an exciting young talent in Markanday who has been ignored all season except for a few ECL minutes
Ghost Hardware
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Yeah I know Markanday, he's been here a while. Wish he would get a loan, not sure why we haven't sent him out. Sometimes i just don't get our approach to the youth squad.
He’s a 10 type quite skill full I like him but doesn’t really seem to be anywhere near getting a chance.
ShelfWatcher
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Yep, we also have an Estonian international Paskotsi who seems to be trapped in Spurs limbo land. It's all very Twilight Zone
Blake Griffin
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your standard technical spanish player really. mostly plays as one of the front three, often as a false 9 despite not being that big. he works as a good foil for the other attacking players and has chipped in with the odd decent finish. it works in youth football though as most teams try to play like man city. in the real world he'll probably end up as a #10 or cm. he's maybe one to revisit in a year or so if he kicks on but right now i wouldn't say he's one to particularly look out for.
the u23s as a whole though are doing really well, which is nice as for most of the time i've followed the youth sides we've been pretty rubbish at that level.
Ghost Hardware
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated. When/where did we get him from?
