Lautaro Martinez

mr ashley · Jun 17, 2022

Timberwolf said:
Don't think we'd ever plan to use him exclusively as a wing back and he'd get tons of game-time up top regardless of who we sign.

Think it looks like a great tactical option in certain games, though. Especially if we sign another top striker. Highly doubt a few games at wing back would crush his confidence. Ironically it might even help his attacking output in some matches as he'd be harder to mark.

The problem for me with kulusevski at wingback is the fact he’s left footed. It forces him to cut back to cross etc which negates the advantage an Overlapping fullback has
It’s fine at rwf, because the rwb takes the opponent away to create space.
like i said, I’d need to see it in action working successfully to believe it’s an option.

Kingellesar · Jun 17, 2022

Inter are basically just offering everyone out to see who bites. They will mess us around again, we need to just walk away, they need the money more than we need the players.

Serpico · Jun 17, 2022

Another player we want to buy shown an interest he doesn’t want to leave I’m not sure if all this is healthy.

Guntz · Jun 17, 2022

Aphex said:
Right. Such a weird thing to suggest

Not really when Conte literally said himself that Kulu can play there.

Look at Perisic, he started off as a left winger and then moved to left-wing back and is one of the best in the world.

Kulu has the same attributes, so I don’t see why he couldn’t excel in that position.

heinsmit · Jun 17, 2022

75m EUR more like it. Whether they will sell at that price is a different question, but in the context of our overall budget and priorities that is probably the furthest we should go.

Yantino · Jun 17, 2022

Ron Burgundy said:
It wouldn't make us instant challengers though

I guess that's all down to personal opinion. I think given the other signings we have made and what we already have, it would.

HoltbiusMac · Jun 17, 2022

When building a squad to compete you first of all need to improve your starting XI. That's why Kulusevski has been a better fit for us than Diaz would have been. It's not that Kulusevski is necessarily a better player than Diaz but he was a big upgrade on what Lucas was offering so he's improved us. It's part the reason buying Bergwijn who primarily played LW was dumb when it was RW we needed to improve.

Having sorted your starting XI you then upgrade your squad and provide rotation options. You can say that Liverpool, City and Chelsea have depth but most of their players can play in more than one position or they allow other players to move into a different position without making them worse.

I don't think Lautaro makes sense in this context. We ideally need somebody who offers quality in line with our other front three and can fulfil the functions of two of them. Lautaro is a striker. If we were losing Son he'd be absolutely brilliant as a replacement switching to 3-5-2. But as it is we need someone who can either play well in any of our front 3 (Richarlison), could play #10 in 3-5-2 or cover for Kane (Paqueta), provide creativity from wide if Kane is out and allow Son to play centrally (Raphinha). I think Lautaro is a better player than all of those mentioned but I don't see the point dropping huge money on a player that really could only play one role.

Ghost Hardware · Jun 17, 2022

Kingellesar said:
Inter are basically just offering everyone out to see who bites. They will mess us around again, we need to just walk away, they need the money more than we need the players.

By all accounts they need to raise a significant amount by the 30th so there is somewhat a deadline there which helps us. This won’t be a case of them playing around all summer and Paratici knows this. In the end of the day we are in a good position here. I’m sure Lautaro is one of many different targets but we also know Conte loves him and knows him really really well, I feel like those being negative about him are missing this point. Conte will know his game inside out, his mentality, his potential, what he can and can’t do. If he thinks spending £75mil on him is the best thing to do then I’m not sure how anyone can really disagree. If we have a chance of getting him and a deadline where we know the deal would have to be done by then I see no reason to be overly worried about waisting time. I would also think that whoever else we are talking to may start to worry and it may ease negotiations on that front so this really is a win win.

spursfan77 · Jun 17, 2022

kremlyn said:
He's obviously a good player but he has an inzaghi or defoe profile- great finisher but not much else.

If it's true that Atletico want some of our players, I'd far rather make a cheeky enquiry over Joao Felix. This kid is magic in multiple positions whereas Lautoro is much more limited.

If he is as good as those two then sign him up!

tommyt · Jun 17, 2022

SpartanSpur said:
I have a feeling we are very invested in seeing how things develop over at Inter. People are talking like Inter are messing with us but maybe it's Paratici smelling blood in the water.

Maybe they need to sell two of Bastoni/Lautaro/Skriniar after all. Maybe a deal could be done for Lautaro ahead of all of them.

It's spurs so we likely are the ones that fall short but we're clearly paying close attention to it all.

Oh, check out who liked this post!

Alright, it was only me and f***ing what?

rawhide · Jun 17, 2022

HoltbiusMac said:
When building a squad to compete you first of all need to improve your starting XI. That's why Kulusevski has been a better fit for us than Diaz would have been. It's not that Kulusevski is necessarily a better player than Diaz but he was a big upgrade on what Lucas was offering so he's improved us. It's part the reason buying Bergwijn who primarily played LW was dumb when it was RW we needed to improve.

Having sorted your starting XI you then upgrade your squad and provide rotation options. You can say that Liverpool, City and Chelsea have depth but most of their players can play in more than one position or they allow other players to move into a different position without making them worse.

I don't think Lautaro makes sense in this context. We ideally need somebody who offers quality in line with our other front three and can fulfil the functions of two of them. Lautaro is a striker. If we were losing Son he'd be absolutely brilliant as a replacement switching to 3-5-2. But as it is we need someone who can either play well in any of our front 3 (Richarlison), could play #10 in 3-5-2 or cover for Kane (Paqueta), provide creativity from wide if Kane is out and allow Son to play centrally (Raphinha). I think Lautaro is a better player than all of those mentioned but I don't see the point dropping huge money on a player that really could only play one role.

I fundamentally disagree with this. It’s the old fashioned approach and the one that’s seen us struggle to buy a striker ( because it’s difficult to upgrade on a player like Kane).

What I believe you should do is strengthen the weak links - which is why Forster improves us. If you’re able to get top quality players that improve the overall score squad, you’re in a better place to challenge (as the League is a slog when the starting XI will not all play every game). If your Kane replacement is Parrott, (no offence meant) then you’re not going to win the league if Kane is injured for any period of time.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t upgrade with potential starters if we can - like you say Deki is a great example, but this is why we are (according to ITK) looking at Bremerton and a cheap LCB as it improves the squad in weak areas without necessarily being “starters” in the traditional sense.

Ron Burgundy · Jun 17, 2022

heinsmit said:
75m EUR more like it. Whether they will sell at that price is a different question, but in the context of our overall budget and priorities that is probably the furthest we should go.

Yeah I think that's fair

wrd · Jun 17, 2022

Honestly I don’t understand half the posters in the last few pages logic, how can you have the feeling that we need to back Conte and vastly improve in order to compete and then be so Pearl clutching when people suggest that good players may be dropped to the bench in the attempt to try and get better.

You can’t acknowledge a need to sign players if we want to find a way to compete with City and Liverpool and then scoff at us the idea a player may not be a guaranteed starter. Unless our plan to improve was to field 18 players.

THFCSPURS19 · Jun 17, 2022

wspur said:
Mercato: Conte vuole Lautaro al Tottenham. Juve, Dzeko possibile vice-Vlahovic. Salah al City: il piano di Guardiola

Notizie, trattative e indiscrezioni del 17 giugno

www.repubblica.it

Conte wants Lautaro Martinez to Tottenham
Tottenham bursts on Lautaro Martinez. Antonio Conte and Fabio Paratici, after a year, are back in charge for the Argentine. The 24-year-old Inter striker is the Spurs' first target for the offensive department, even if the “Toro” does not want to leave Milan. However, the London club is ready to reach 75 million euros.

I didn’t translate it fully but I think the same article spoke about Salah going to City, so I kinda ignored anything else the article said.

WiganSpur · Jun 17, 2022

I don't like the idea of Kulusevski as a wing back, especially with Perisic on the other side. Wouldn't be averse to Martinez but the reality is someone is going to have to be benched every game imo, whether that is Martinez, Son, Kane or Kulusevski. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but do you spend £90m on depth? Then that's not even discussing how you'd even manage if you dropped Kulusevski to deploy Martinez, Son and Kane in the same XI. Who on earth is capable on the right there?

I'm also not sure about Kane being a natural 10, his behaviour is more of a deep lying forward or false 9, it's a different movement imo. He's our best player, we shouldn't be moving him around to accommodate Martinez.

I'd rather we paid £70m or whatever Everton want for Richarlison than £90m+ for Martinez not because he's a better player but because he's a better fit for what we need. An appropriate backup should be De Ketelaere, or maybe someone like Gakpo who I think we could shape into a striker.

THFCSPURS19 · Jun 17, 2022

Anyone else slightly confused that this story hasn’t been strongly dismissed by the journalists who cover us yet…

Cochise · Jun 17, 2022

H-SF · Jun 17, 2022

THFCSPURS19 said:
Anyone else slightly confused that this story hasn’t been strongly dismissed by the journalists who cover us yet…

Not really because not one reputable source has suggested anytning is advanced or close. A few gutter Italian sources saying we will bid an unrealistic amount of money for Lautaro doesn’t need to be addressed.

WiganSpur · Jun 17, 2022

THFCSPURS19 said:
Anyone else slightly confused that this story hasn’t been strongly dismissed by the journalists who cover us yet…

I don't feel like there have been any strong links to deny just yet? A bit different to last year when it was reported in the Times that we had agreed a deal.

wrd · Jun 17, 2022

THFCSPURS19 said:
Anyone else slightly confused that this story hasn’t been strongly dismissed by the journalists who cover us yet…

If by confused you mean deludedly excited

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