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Hotspur88

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Club honestly surprises me sometimes. Common knowledge we wanted him last summer and Inter messed us around as they do every single time.

Again this summer they've already messed us around and then start dangling Martinez in front of us. I wish FP would just tell them to f**k off but the only reason he would contemplate it is because of how much Conte loves him.

Only ends one way for me, the same way it always end with Inter.
 

Clark28

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As long as we have a set deadline before moving on to other targets, I don't mind FB pursuing it for a while.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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This is the only way you can really fit Martinez in the team.

Maybe Conte is planning to set up like this?

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Nah. Looks great on Football Manager but in reality Kane doesn't have the stamina to be a proper number 10, nor should he permanently be that far away from goal. In that system the number 10 needs to play in central midfield when out of possession and then be breaking as the furthest forward midfielder in transition. Kane is an elite number 9, it is ridiculous to shoehorn into another position just to fit in another player who isn't as good as him.
 
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SpartanSpur

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Club honestly surprises me sometimes. Common knowledge we wanted him last summer and Inter messed us around as they do every single time.

Again this summer they've already messed us around and then start dangling Martinez in front of us. I wish FP would just tell them to f**k off but the only reason he would contemplate it is because of how much Conte loves him.

Only ends one way for me, the same way it always end with Inter.

Inter will sell to whoever gives them the best deal that suits their squad the best. Previously that would never be us as we don't overpay like a Chelsea or PSG would.

What is slightly different to the Bastoni situation is that selling Lautaro may well be a deal they want to do if Dybala and Lukaku come in. The question is whether Conte's love for the player and our new found wealth is enough for us to overpay for him to the extent they actually deal with us.

You'd imagine PSG paying through the nose for Skriniar is the most likely outcome however.
 

Yantino

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Although it seems to be totally alien to expect Spurs to go for a player like this, even though over the years we have dreamt of making massive signings like this would be, i don't think it's unrealistic to suggest that he is someone we would be looking to bring in. The club are clearly listening to the manager and DoF and backing him and we seem to have the funds available.

I can see this happening if Inter don't mess us around and we are really serious about a title challenge. Proper marquee signing that'll really have the rest of the league taking notice.
 
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spursfan77

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It's a tricky one with Lukaku. It's hard to tell who holds the cards in negotiations.

I'd actually argue it's Inter more than Chelsea. Chelsea could try to leverage them but they could easily call their bluff.

- Lukaku has burned bridges at Chelsea with the manager, fans and possibly his team mates.
- He's clearly desperate to return to Inter, could flat out refuse to go elsewhere. Apparently willing to take a pay cut to do so.
- No-one is particularly queuing up to pay big money for Lukaku at this point so they don't have many options.

Say Inter were to sell Lautaro to us or anyone else. Would they really not deal with Inter afterwards? None of the above changes.

Obviously it would be smoother just to sell a player to Chelsea but the players would have to want to go there.

I think they want Lukaku out asap whatever. It should benefit us if we are dealing with inter and do actually want Martinez.
 

Aphex

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What’s crazy is contemplating moving Kulusevski to wing back!

Why would you move such an attacker who’s had incredible output high up the pitch to a wide position where he has to spend half his time defending?!! And risk disrupting all the momentum and confidence he’s built here. It’s like moving Son to left wing back. It would be insane.

Right. Such a weird thing to suggest.
 

Joely

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Not watched him too much of him but did catch Inter's CL games against Liverpool. Scored a belter in the 2nd leg but I thought he was generally average to poor in both games. Almost felt like as though he had resigned himself to not having the beating of Van Dijk, Konate and Matip.
 

Tucker

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It’s obvious inter are trying to play all the various clubs off each other. Spurs want Bastoni? Oh no wait we might sell Skriniar instead, PSG want Skriniar, oh wait we might sell Martinez to spurs instead. It’ll be back to us wanting Bastoni soon enough.
 

Scot-Spur

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I think it's overly simplistic to not be able to differentiate between (1) investment and (2) value for money/making best use of the money we have

We are letting Paratici do his thing, but it's perfectly reasonable to opine on the above

I have a few issues with the guy

1) Lautaro would, I would guess, almost be mutually exclusive with Harry, or at best, limit our tactical flexibility
2) At (coming up to 25) this is the most expensive he'll likely ever be - at (e.g.) 28 with a declining contract, all other things being equal, we wouldn't get the same money back. I know people don't think we should think about it like that ("it's not my money") but if you're running a business (which Tottenham is), you have to. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to make a judgement on this basis, rather purely "more good players, better short term squad, therefore go for it"
3) For the sums being talked about, I worry it would limit the quality we can get elsewhere. We've yet to buy: a RWB, a creative CM, a LCB - especially if we don't get Eriksen, these are (arguably) more pressing slots to fill than another forward

To give a comparison, I would take Richarlison (a tactically flexible forward, capable at both VF and LWF, same age, used to the Prem) for 55/55, rather than Lautaro at (e.g. 80) and either (i) save the money for some other time (when we see how our new signings gel and see if we're missing anything - maybe Jan or next summer) or (ii) spend the balance on filling those other slots with better players

The above is my opinion, and has been rationally reached.

By all means thing "he's great, let's get him" and you might be right, but IMO you're not considering the opportunity cost of the £m spent
I never once said he is great get him in?

I am merely pointing out the fact fans get hung up on particular rumours and complain about spending money on targets they don’t feel are necessary or don’t fit a specific perspective. It’s frankly annoying, when someone posts with an insight or reasoning I’m all for it.

Regarding the concerns over the squad I fully agree, we do have in my opinion more pressing matters. However what is the point in me worrying about it? Paratici and Conte will know what they want and how best to achieve it. Will it all come off? Probably not but if a significant chunk does we will be in a better place.

On the finance aspect, we still have Mr Levy at the helm. No way does he see us over extend ourselves and create issues. We have had information that he still signs off the deals.

I just take all the rumours for what they are, I’m just glad we are finally showing the ambition that the stadium and fans deserve.

Also if one person knows about Inters precarious financial situation it is going to be Paratici. He may well just be looking to exploit it because from what I have read he doesn’t get on that well with some of the Inter hierarchy.
 

The Scarecrow

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So you don't think buying a world class operator who knows our managers system and ways and improves our already frightening attack, is the club spending wisely?

Ok, fair enough.

We know we have £150m to spend, maybe more with outgoings. If Lautaro was to come in for 75m and in hindsight we get Spence and Eriksen. That would be a total spend of around 120m. 30m left to spend on a defender with maybe more due to outgoings.

Seizing our opportunity to bring in elite players is definitely spending wisely
No, I think that money is better spent in defence. You clearly want Lautaro, and that's fine. It's the policing I can't stand. Let me have an opinion without implying that Levy has given me some sort of brain damage.
 

mil1lion

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I don't see why he couldn't play inside forward like Son does. Son often makes runs ahead of Kane so imagine having Martinez making runs inside right and Son inside left. There would be a fair amount of rotation between them, Deki will often play on the right but Son or Martinez could also lead the line to rest Kane. Having 4 top forwards for the front 3 will make such a difference. It will allow us to rest a striker every week and never have to start a striker 3 games straight. We also don't lose quality and would have a top player on the bench. When Deki was sick we were clearly a lot worse off with Moura starting against Leicester but then Deki came on and changed the game. We simply haven't had those game changing players on the bench this season.
 

spursfast

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It’s obvious inter are trying to play all the various clubs off each other. Spurs want Bastoni? Oh no wait we might sell Skriniar instead, PSG want Skriniar, oh wait we might sell Martinez to spurs instead. It’ll be back to us wanting Bastoni soon enough.
but we still want bastoni
 

Yantino

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Offer £150m for Martinez and Bastoni.

Another double signing from an Italian club. Gives Inter the funds they need.

Makes us instant PL title challengers.

Boom.
 

wspur

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Conte wants Lautaro Martinez to Tottenham

Tottenham bursts on Lautaro Martinez. Antonio Conte and Fabio Paratici, after a year, are back in charge for the Argentine. The 24-year-old Inter striker is the Spurs' first target for the offensive department, even if the “Toro” does not want to leave Milan. However, the London club is ready to reach 75 million euros.
 

kremlyn

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He's obviously a good player but he has an inzaghi or defoe profile- great finisher but not much else.

If it's true that Atletico want some of our players, I'd far rather make a cheeky enquiry over Joao Felix. This kid is magic in multiple positions whereas Lautoro is much more limited.
 
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