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punkisback

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Would like to see 352 as well, but with Kulusevski wide right. People will say he's not a wing back but ours are so far up the pitch they're more like wingers anyway. If Kulu plays there they'll have to try to stop him, whereas Emerson generally stops himself.
Might as well play 433 then and do the wonky

lloris

perisic
lenglet
Dier
Romero
Emerson

Bentancur
PEH
Deki

Kane
Son
 

Japhet

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Might as well play 433 then and do the wonky

lloris

perisic
lenglet
Dier
Romero
Emerson

Bentancur
PEH
Deki

Kane
Son


Don't like a back 4 with the players we have and would much rather have Bissouma in midfield.
 

JCRD

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Id like a team to how we ended yesterday but Kulu RWB and Perisic LWB and Bissouma in the middle - I just dont think we will see it. It would make sense though as I think we will approach it to how Man United played except our attack is more dangerous. Sonny would and should have a field day if we play it right.
 

DCSPUR64

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Kane loves to play against Arsenal but Richarlison would harass them more, I cannot see Conte leaving Harry on the bench but I just wonder who our best two would be up front!
 

Tezza1978

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That's the side he'll pick I think.
I think that's likely. We might see a shift to 352 later but given they will press really high and will be encouraged on by the crowd, 343 is perfect to launch fast counterattack where we can hurt them
 

Mr Pink

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I think that's likely. We might see a shift to 352 later but given they will press really high and will be encouraged on by the crowd, 343 is perfect to launch fast counterattack where we can hurt them

Yep. Similar to how it goes against City...obviously they're not as good but yeah that's the team I expect.
 

djhotspur

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My dream line to deal with their pace and midfield and support the attack
Lloris
Ronero dier lenglet
Spence Benta biss hojber peri
Son Kane

kulu in at cm and Richie to come on for the forwards as subs.

we won’t play this though I reckon it’ll be the Usual 11 3 4 3
 

Mr Pink

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It’ll be this and they will have us camped in our own halves unable to get out as we are completely overrun in midfield as always

But that will leave tonnes of space to counter in.

So depends how well we defend and how effective our counter is.
 

ajspurs

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A thing that I do like about a 3-5-2 is that it really makes Kane and Son the focal point too and of course, not that they've had problems in the past not playing as a pair but they've both been struggling a bit so it may help them.

I see the logic in having three up front as like someone else said, it enhances the chance of springing counter attacks. It's such a hard one to call without knowing how what type of game it will be though because we can sometimes have the three up front but not really enough control of proceedings or enough care with the ball when we do have it to really utilise them. Arsenal are looking like a really good passing side at the moment and with how inaccurate our passing has been in the last few games I do worry a little about Arsenal seeing way too much of the ball and passing around us.
 

punkisback

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A thing that I do like about a 3-5-2 is that it really makes Kane and Son the focal point too and of course, not that they've had problems in the past not playing as a pair but they've both been struggling a bit so it may help them.

I see the logic in having three up front as like someone else said, it enhances the chance of springing counter attacks. It's such a hard one to call without knowing how what type of game it will be though because we can sometimes have the three up front but not really enough control of proceedings or enough care with the ball when we do have it to really utilise them. Arsenal are looking like a really good passing side at the moment and with how inaccurate our passing has been in the last few games I do worry a little about Arsenal seeing way too much of the ball and passing around us.
Thing is you can play exactly the same team and be flexible. Have Kulu play the right sided 8 acting as a winger in attack and a CM in defence and transition. It’s not hard.
 

ajspurs

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Thing is you can play exactly the same team and be flexible. Have Kulu play the right sided 8 acting as a winger in attack and a CM in defence and transition. It’s not hard.

I agree, just not sure i can see it happening as of now unfortunately.
 

SambaSpurs

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It’ll be this and they will have us camped in our own halves unable to get out as we are completely overrun in midfield as always
This will probably happen but we are now 13 league games unbeaten. We surely need to get past this now. We can be better than we have been when we have the ball in controlled possession against teams that sit off, like Sporting. But our whole tactic is about bringing the opposition on to us and attacking at speed - the chart below illustrates this in an amazing way. Plus the chances we give up when we don’t have the ball are usually very low quality ones, hence 13 games unbeaten…

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Last year City overran our midfield 2, and we beat them 3-2 away with a very unlucky penalty against. Liverpool overran our midfield 2, and we got a 1-1 draw with a massively deflected effort against. Both of these teams are better than the current Arsenal.

Why are people advocating a 5-3-2 to control a game when that’s not our style? Fine to move to that latter in games to manage games, but it’s not our bread and butter. It’s not what got us CL football, that has us on the cusp of our longest ever unbeaten streak and level points with the expected runaway leaders of the league. We need to play our game.
 

Japhet

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This will probably happen but we are now 13 league games unbeaten. We surely need to get past this now. We can be better than we have been when we have the ball in controlled possession against teams that sit off, like Sporting. But our whole tactic is about bringing the opposition on to us and attacking at speed - the chart below illustrates this in an amazing way. Plus the chances we give up when we don’t have the ball are usually very low quality ones, hence 13 games unbeaten…

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Last year City overran our midfield 2, and we beat them 3-2 away with a very unlucky penalty against. Liverpool overran our midfield 2, and we got a 1-1 draw with a massively deflected effort against. Both of these teams are better than the current Arsenal.

Why are people advocating a 5-3-2 to control a game when that’s not our style? Fine to move to that latter in games to manage games, but it’s not our bread and butter. It’s not what got us CL football, that has us on the cusp of our longest ever unbeaten streak and level points with the expected runaway leaders of the league. We need to play our game.


I doubt very much that Conte will move to 352 anyway, but people who advocate that occasionally are probably a bit alarmed at how often we get overrun in midfield by average teams, and fear that a good passing team will punish us severely. I personally think we need a more solid option when we face teams that will pass around us at will if we don't have 3 in CM, and also that with such a formation we could use Kulusevski at RWB and give ourselves a much better chance of creating from wide right than we usually have with Emerson.
 

djhotspur

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This will probably happen but we are now 13 league games unbeaten. We surely need to get past this now. We can be better than we have been when we have the ball in controlled possession against teams that sit off, like Sporting. But our whole tactic is about bringing the opposition on to us and attacking at speed - the chart below illustrates this in an amazing way. Plus the chances we give up when we don’t have the ball are usually very low quality ones, hence 13 games unbeaten…

View attachment 117087


Last year City overran our midfield 2, and we beat them 3-2 away with a very unlucky penalty against. Liverpool overran our midfield 2, and we got a 1-1 draw with a massively deflected effort against. Both of these teams are better than the current Arsenal.

Why are people advocating a 5-3-2 to control a game when that’s not our style? Fine to move to that latter in games to manage games, but it’s not our bread and butter. It’s not what got us CL football, that has us on the cusp of our longest ever unbeaten streak and level points with the expected runaway leaders of the league. We need to play our game.
Yes but as sporting proved and as the chelsea and West Ham proved when we play better sides we can’t cope. Sporting have good attackers and we lost, chelsea should have won comfortably as they have good attackers but attackers that can’t finish and a terrible ref decision meant we scored.
West Ham are dog shit this season yet out played us and should have won.
I don’t care about last season I care about this season and we aren’t some brilliant side that keeps teams at bay, we’ve played a bunch of crap sides and drawn against the two only good sides we’ve played and should have lost both.
Last season we were a different beast but this season we don’t even look good in the transitions.
going to 3 5 2 is simply sensible against arsenal away from home or does your arrogance think we shouldn’t adapt to change against different opposition?
having bissouma in the hole will go along way to stopping odegaard and jesys dropping into the pocket and will allow Benta and hojberg to stop partey and xhaka playing. It’s a simple matter of fact arsenal are a different beast this season and yes they lost to a counter side in United but we don’t have eriksen and Bruno to play world class passes on the counter.
We never win at arsenal just look At the stats… even under poch when we were much the better side we still bottled it mostly there. Going there with an open midfield against much better quality of players who will beat us one on one like sporting did and have the intricate passing to unlock us.
 

spids

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Id like a team to how we ended yesterday but Kulu RWB and Perisic LWB and Bissouma in the middle - I just dont think we will see it. It would make sense though as I think we will approach it to how Man United played except our attack is more dangerous. Sonny would and should have a field day if we play it right.
I would not fancy Kulusevski up against Martinelli, and Perisic up against Saka against fast starting Arsenal away from home. Don't get me wrong, Id love to see those players in that formation, but at home against Everton. Arenal away is a game for Sessegnon and Royal as the WBs.
 

djhotspur

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I would not fancy Kulusevski up against Martinelli, and Perisic up against Saka against fast starting Arsenal away from home. Don't get me wrong, Id love to see those players in that formation, but at home against Everton. Arenal away is a game for Sessegnon and Royal as the WBs.
Agreed. Funnily enough spence completely nullified martinelli in the cup, but no way conte will play him
 
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