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roslau

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If we want to win trophies,, there is no room for brain fart moments like Sanchez and Sess had last game. Formation wise, it doesn’t matter as long as the players are 100% focused in the game
 

Phil_2.0

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Arsenal will be a lot more difficult to Counter attack and bully this season. White-Saliba-Gabriel-Tierney is a very formidable back 4 physically, with Partey screen in front it will be tough to get any change out of them. I hope Zinchenko plays and recovers from his injury because he is terrible in transition.

Manchester United did transition on Arsenal well at Old Trafford so that gives me hope. They had Lokonga playing that day and he is very poor off the ball. Once United went 2-1 up Arteta lost his mind with a triple sub and broke his team's structure that was dominating and threw the game away. He probably will have learned from this mistake.

Match ups I can see us taking advantage of:
  1. Richarlison vs Zinchenko - I don't think Zinchenko will play unfortunately but if he does that channel will be able to be exploited. Kulusevkis would also be too strong for him.
  2. Bentancur vs Xhaka - This is the big key area for us to exploit. Xhaka has been pushed forward the last 7 or 8 months, I could see RB eating him alive. Especially if we match them in a 3-5-2
  3. Kane vs Gabriel - Kane bodied Gabriel for our 3rd goal in April but Gabriel is generally vs good physically.

Things to worry about:

  1. Jesus dropping into midfield and holding up play - He has been excellent this season, one of the players of the season. Dier, Davies and Lenglet having to chase him into midfield gives me nightmares. A few games in the past couple of weeks Dier has found himself not pressing into midfield quick enough and when he gets in the channels he is all at sea
  2. Romero vs Martinelli - Martinelli doesn't let you rest and Romero does love a nice roam around the pitch and half-hearted effort.
  3. Son won't be up against Holding - White and Saliba will deal with Son much better in their right-hand channel
  4. Arsenal presses hard and are getting good at it - If Forster plays and we start with Sanchez again with Royal, Dier and PEH in a 3-4-3 we simply cannot pass around the back line. It will be a disaster. We'd have to go long very quickly.
 

seanyboy

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Very interested to see how midfield plays out with the pressure we applied in the modified system against Leicester if we pivot to that again at some point and get into quick counter-attacks from advanced positions.

half-hearted effort.
You lose me here as it relates to Romero. If anything, the bigger concern seems to be him being too rash in stepping out for the early tackle when oppo has the ball and risking a yellow especially early in the game then having to be too timid in later riskier build-up. I've generally seen Romero's full length runs in attack be timed well in games where the hole he leaves is less risky.

Rest is fair, but remaining optimistic!
 

Capocrimini

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You'd expect Arsenal to be up for it following the humiliation of the last NLD. Despite them playing some pretty good football this season I still think they have a pussy mentality. As long we do our job I reckon we will sneak past them or get a draw.

Even if Romero is unavailable after internationals and we have to rely on Sanchez, I am confident he won't make the same sort of mistakes as he did against Leicester. My worry is their press against out 3 CBs, if it was up to me I'd throw in an extra midfielder to help alleviate some of that pressure they'll face on the ball.
 

Monkey boy

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You'd expect Arsenal to be up for it following the humiliation of the last NLD. Despite them playing some pretty good football this season I still think they have a pussy mentality. As long we do our job I reckon we will sneak past them or get a draw.

Even if Romero is unavailable after internationals and we have to rely on Sanchez, I am confident he won't make the same sort of mistakes as he did against Leicester. My worry is their press against out 3 CBs, if it was up to me I'd throw in an extra midfielder to help alleviate some of that pressure they'll face on the ball.

Where does this confidence come from exactly? Sanchez has ALWAYS had those types of mistakes in him. Hes been here for 5 years now and he hasnt seemingly learned from any of his past cock ups so not sure he has the capability of learning from his latest one.
 

Capocrimini

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Where does this confidence come from exactly? Sanchez has ALWAYS had those types of mistakes in him. Hes been here for 5 years now and he hasnt seemingly learned from any of his past cock ups so not sure he has the capability of learning from his latest one.

Conte, and I think Sanchez had been fairly reliable since he took over until the last game.
 

npearl4spurs

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Kulusevski won't start at RWB. Conte will have that in his back pocket just in case.

I agree with the calls for 3-5-2 with Kulu playing CAM/10. Tbf, that's Deki's preferred position anyway, per his words. Starting with that formation allows from some interesting tactical shifts and protects Perisic more by closing up their midfield triangles if he starts (which I think he ought to).

Richarlison and the WBs off the bench will be critical for us getting a good result. The 2nd half, rather than the first, will determine the outcome, and the tactical changes will be very interesting to watch.
 

Timberwolf

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Fully expect the 3-4-3 this game. Would be very surprised if we switched.

The key positions for me are the 2 wing backs and the right forward spot.

I think it's vitally important we play Kulusevski as Arsenal are good on the ball and we can't afford to keep turning it over like we have recently. Kulu is a more reliable outlet than Rich on the right and better at bringing others in to play.

I also think this is a game for Royal on the right. He's our best defensive RWB and we'll need him to deal with Martinelli.

LWB is the trickiest one - Perisic is better on the ball and better going forward, but Sess is better defensively against tricky players like Saka. I don't really mind who we pick in this role, but whoever it is will need to have a good game.
 

dannythomas

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Where does this confidence come from exactly? Sanchez has ALWAYS had those types of mistakes in him. Hes been here for 5 years now and he hasnt seemingly learned from any of his past cock ups so not sure he has the capability of learning from his latest one.
How many minutes did we go when Sanchez played without conceding a goal ? Over 600 I believe.

And you can’t tell me that Dier doesn’t have mistakes in him. As do Sessegnon and Perisic. Yet Sanchez is always singled out.
 
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Joshua shepherd

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Fully expect the 3-4-3 this game. Would be very surprised if we switched.

The key positions for me are the 2 wing backs and the right forward spot.

I think it's vitally important we play Kulusevski as Arsenal are good on the ball and we can't afford to keep turning it over like we have recently. Kulu is a more reliable outlet than Rich on the right and better at bringing others in to play.

I also think this is a game for Royal on the right. He's our best defensive RWB and we'll need him to deal with Martinelli.

LWB is the trickiest one - Perisic is better on the ball and better going forward, but Sess is better defensively against tricky players like Saka. I don't really mind who we pick in this role, but whoever it is will need to have a good game.

Not quite sure Sessegnon is a better defender than perisic. Sess was not at the races against Leicester, is normally a bit better when we sit deeper as he doesn’t get caught out of position as much but if I was picking one to rely upon it would definitely be perisic.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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How many minutes did we go when Sanchez played without conceding a goal ? Over 600 I believe.

And you can’t tell me that Dier doesn’t have mistakes in him. As do Sessegnon and Perisic. Yet Sanchez is always singled out.

Dier definitely does but he’s somewhat protected from a lot of defensive work with the two outside him. That stat is just quirk that happens in football sometimes. Like not winning for 14 games or whatever it was with Bale in the team. Alot of variables in football . He’s been here for what 5/6 years I’m sure there’s periods where we’ve conceded more on average when he’s in the team during that time.

For me anyway it just comes down looking a more nervous team in and out of possession with Sanchez playing. He creates momentum for the other team.
 

Timberwolf

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Not quite sure Sessegnon is a better defender than perisic. Sess was not at the races against Leicester, is normally a bit better when we sit deeper as he doesn’t get caught out of position as much but if I was picking one to rely upon it would definitely be perisic.
I don't think there's a huge amount in it, but Sess has played great in previous games against top teams. Had the better of Salah and never looked out of place in those big matches.
 

Mr Pink

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Will never happen...

But I'd love to see 3-5-2....Kulusevski at RWB...kane the more advanced of a midfield three.

Son and Richarlison up top.

Kane might be better a bit deeper now, he looks a yard slower.
 
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Joshua shepherd

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I don't think there's a huge amount in it, but Sess has played great in previous games against top teams. Had the better of Salah and never looked out of place in those big matches.

Sure, but perisic has played in World Cup finals, champions league finals and milan derbies. This is the biggest game of all (for us), it’s a place we often go and look shell shocked and we need someone who can cope with that level of pressure, if you’re asking who has the experience and internal belief to cope, it’s perisic all day long.
 

Timberwolf

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Sure, but perisic has played in World Cup finals, champions league finals and milan derbies. This is the biggest game of all (for us), it’s a place we often go and look shell shocked and we need someone who can cope with that level of pressure, if you’re asking who has the experience and internal belief to cope, it’s perisic all day long.
I mean I suspect he'll get picked ahead of Sess for the reasons you say, and I'd be fine with that too.

Just wouldn't be surprised if he gets skinned by Saka a few times.
 

TheChosenOne

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Dier definitely does but he’s somewhat protected from a lot of defensive work with the two outside him. That stat is just quirk that happens in football sometimes. Like not winning for 14 games or whatever it was with Bale in the team. Alot of variables in football . He’s been here for what 5/6 years I’m sure there’s periods where we’ve conceded more on average when he’s in the team during that time.

For me anyway it just comes down looking a more nervous team in and out of possession with Sanchez playing. He creates momentum for the other team.

8 years.
 
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