H-SF
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Luis Enrique or Tuchel would be great appointments. Club would obviously go with Poch though very infuriating.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Tuchel would be an interesting one, from a coaching pov.
The obvious Chelsea albatross round his neck would make it a hard one to get off the ground. Coupled with the fact we don’t usually do so well with former Chelsea managers…
jpascavitz
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I still think we all need to let the dust settle. While it's been alluded to being messy, it still seems a lot of possibilities are on the board. I know supporting Tottenham usually results in the worst scenario happening, but I personally will just wait to see what happens, what else can we do?
What is interesting is that there are a good number of good coaches available at this time, and not a lot of attractive jobs. While it's known Conte can/will walk at any moment, I have to believe that he sees that he's building something currently here and there's not really an option where he can "jump" ship to.
So fingers crossed we can find a few good opportunities (FP do your thing) for reasonable prices in Jan.
What is interesting is that there are a good number of good coaches available at this time, and not a lot of attractive jobs. While it's known Conte can/will walk at any moment, I have to believe that he sees that he's building something currently here and there's not really an option where he can "jump" ship to.
So fingers crossed we can find a few good opportunities (FP do your thing) for reasonable prices in Jan.
fecka
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I hope we steer well clear of Tuchel. He's a great coach but I would be surprised if our fanbase can take another highly pragmatic coach. We need some pace and flair back in the side IMO and that starts with the coach.
I do hope this conversation becomes completely redundant, however. While I'm not the biggest fan of Conte at Spurs despite the fantastic job he did last year, him leaving is the last thing we need right now.
I do hope this conversation becomes completely redundant, however. While I'm not the biggest fan of Conte at Spurs despite the fantastic job he did last year, him leaving is the last thing we need right now.
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I wonder how much patience Conte will have here. Will he walk out now if he doesn’t get the players he wants this Jan or does he stick around until summer. It certainly doesn’t set us up for a good window although I’m sure Paratici probably has deals set up.
What I guess seems to be is if Conte walks and Levy stays then it’s probably a dead cert Poch comes back. Question is will Paratici also walk in that scenario.
What I guess seems to be is if Conte walks and Levy stays then it’s probably a dead cert Poch comes back. Question is will Paratici also walk in that scenario.
H-SF
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Surely Levy is only an issue because the club run a self-sustaining model and he has to be shrewd. If we were doped like other top clubs he wouldn’t be the obstacle that he currently is. ENIC more of a problem no?
easley91
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Curious as to why my personal choice of not throwing a tantrum or panicking is getting dislikes? Sorry I am not ready to get on board the doom train when nothing official has come out. I appreciate the ITK info as always, but until the club puts something official out there, Conte IS our manager and the January window hasn't even happened yet.
Spurs fans have the panic button mentality.
the lad
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Perfect analogy.
But there will still be those that defend Levy to the hilt.
You’re too pragmatic for this place.
95% of the people in here are baying for blood and you’re advocating remaining calm…
Only 1 winner here…MOB RULES!
mill
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I’d lick it
Her viabia?
DL tenure has been the definition of “the tail wagging the dog”. You mean to say this is inconsistent with other clubs?
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This is doom-mongering of the highest order. If we get rid of all our best players then we're left with a shit squad? Who would have thought.
There's a chance that we'll sign some good replacements, we won't sell all of those you listed, and we might even sell some of those weaker players. There is no way in hell that group would end up as our 'core'.
brasil_spur
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I don't believe there's any doom-mongering here at all. The only reason Kane stayed was because we bought in Conte. I think you've probably forgotten how bad things were until we landed Conte (which very few of us expected could even happen). It really was a calamitous fuck up of the highest order and IMO Conte was the only thing that saved Levy at that point.
In terms of players that have been signed since - many of them have commented on Conte being the reason they joined. He's a winner and they know it, not backing him now will result in some of them leaving, I've no doubt at all in that. When you then factor in what else is going on with the squad then it really is concerning and not doom mongering IMO.
What I don't expect to happen is for Conte not to be back this window though. I don't see any of the above happening because frankly it should be obvious to just about anyone, including VL, that letting Conte go now is near suicide for the club.
And all this is before you even take into account that there are now AT LEAST 7 strong teams competing in the PL - Spurs, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea and Utd. That means every season 3 strong teams will miss out on CL. YET we are in the CL knock out stages and in the CL league spots right now. Call it doom mongering if you want, but the reality is that we will be left behind massively if we aren't very careful over the next 7 weeks.
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This is good news in my opinion because there is clearly a change happening at the very top and this is something many of us have been hoping for. If Joe's daughter is ambitious and wants the club to become a force on the pitch then that is music to my ears. What I hope is that she pursuades her dad that now is the time to make the change, to back Conte and to let her get on with it.
jimbo
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I don't think so because I don't think it's our being self-sustaining that is the problem, I think it's our turnover to spend ratio - consistently one of the lowest in the league.
So, I think Mr Byrite is excessively shrewd. I'm not as convinced as some that being a good businessman makes a good football club chairman (see also Alan Sugar, Doug Ellis et al), because you really need to balance risk rather than simply seek to avoid it. He's excellent at protecting and growing the investment, perfect for a property development company but not so good for a football club because there is no great desire for sporting success. Levy doesn't need THFC to win anything, he just needs us to compete.
I can only guess as to where the tension is between Levy and VL - but if it's not simply personal then I wonder if it's around that combination of low spend to turnover and lack of any on-field success.
It's also a bit worrying that the board is largely on the same line of thinking as Levy, hopefully that's because he's sought to surround himself with those of similar mind - if not then it would support that idea that Enic are problematic and not just Levy alone.
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Couldn't agree more. Everything in it's place, life's too short.
But.................haha @ some of the people rating this post. It's like a who's who of OTT kneejerk champions and match thread angerboys. Like they've suddenly acquired a state of zen
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felmani26
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I think for 'disagreements' between Chairman/board and the manager is perfectly common place and could be construed as promoting healthy debate so long as the ultimate aims are aligned.
For there to be succession planning in ownership coupled with disputes between owner and longstanding Chairman who owns a minority yet significant stake then this spells a power struggle that doesn't bode well for stability and by extension, success on the pitch.
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