fishhhandaricecake
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Yep it’ll take far more than one window but one proper window that shows full backing and a plan would be a nice start hopefully.
The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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Trent Crimm
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Meanwhile at Spurs, Danny runs into donnas office, “look, no ousting comments for a day , I did it “.
rossdapep
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Have to say, I didnt think in 2023 and after the stadium build we'd still be getting "oppportunistic" buys and looking for deals on the last day of the window.
The counter argument to that id always that January is 'difficult' or 'our rivals havent done much'. But I honestly believe that if your strategy is aligned correctly then you are more likely to be proactive and not wander around.
The others point is that our rivals tend not to need as much as us, just a couple of fixes.
"Oppportunistic' deals should only really be done in addition to your clear strategy and should not be your actual strategy.
Its clear that Levy approaches transfer windows with this in mind as we never seem to attack the window and confirm we are done early on.
The counter argument to that id always that January is 'difficult' or 'our rivals havent done much'. But I honestly believe that if your strategy is aligned correctly then you are more likely to be proactive and not wander around.
The others point is that our rivals tend not to need as much as us, just a couple of fixes.
"Oppportunistic' deals should only really be done in addition to your clear strategy and should not be your actual strategy.
Its clear that Levy approaches transfer windows with this in mind as we never seem to attack the window and confirm we are done early on.
Russ1201
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100% agree. You don't see Liverpool or Man City looking opportunities on last days of the window. They have there signings scouted long before and signed within a week or two into the window.
That's because they have a great scouting network and target the managers preferred players not option B, C or D because they are easier or cheaper.
Gb160
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Exactly, feels like we're the millionaire who rolls into Sainsburys in a Bentley looking for yellow sticker stuff 10 minutes before they close.
Trent Crimm
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and parks in the disabled slot. Probably. ?
Gb160
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...across 2 bays so no disableds scratch his Bently with their wheelchairs
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SirNiNyHotspur
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Loans are yellow pack Levys equivalent of BOGO, gets the credit for the loan then again when made perm. BSoDL can include it to show his ‘ambition’ two windows instead of one whilst excusing any other lack of purchases elsewhere both windows…
I also see now BSoDL the anticipation to start giving Levy credit again with one semi-major purchase, but anyone that wants to look, Levy had to spend something to keep the mirage going that he cares even a little about the team, he doesn’t want a full on revolt.
But clear for anyone that wants to look new stadium just means as you were, minimum he can get away with whilst maximizing profits for ENIC. This window actually played out classic Levy, last minute save the pennies or opportunistic bargains. Would have been more shocked if he signed no-one as Levy already knows what his ideal window of spending nothing looks like to fans…
To dare is to finely balance minimum he can spend on players whilst keeping enough fans off his back. 23 years and looks exactly like more of the same, stadium just a carrot, says we’re winning nothing, sooner they’re gone the better for everyone….
I also see now BSoDL the anticipation to start giving Levy credit again with one semi-major purchase, but anyone that wants to look, Levy had to spend something to keep the mirage going that he cares even a little about the team, he doesn’t want a full on revolt.
But clear for anyone that wants to look new stadium just means as you were, minimum he can get away with whilst maximizing profits for ENIC. This window actually played out classic Levy, last minute save the pennies or opportunistic bargains. Would have been more shocked if he signed no-one as Levy already knows what his ideal window of spending nothing looks like to fans…
To dare is to finely balance minimum he can spend on players whilst keeping enough fans off his back. 23 years and looks exactly like more of the same, stadium just a carrot, says we’re winning nothing, sooner they’re gone the better for everyone….
rossdapep
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Its just not a succesful strategy.
I wouldnt mind it if we brought in 3 or 4 solid options but then kept things open just in case a very good opportunity came around.
But it feel like we decide to bring in number 1 key position (Porro or Richarlison for example) and then try to do the rest with players who are offered or we know we can get out of their club easily.
Look at the way we are approaching the CB situation. "Spurs are hoping to a deal for a CB".
So, an area that needs significantly strengthening is a last minute window buy? Secondly, it sounds like there isnt an actual primary target and the club are just hoping to get one of a number, relying on one of their clubs to get desperate.
Trent Crimm
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Van Der Vaart is levy’s happy place. Bet you he has a photo of Rafa above his desk that he touches most days and winks at it.
it makes him feel “funny” ?
it makes him feel “funny” ?
Gb160
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This.
Liverpool needed a centre back and goalkeeper and broke 2 world records securing them. They go on to win the CL and PL over the next couple of years.
I have absolutely zero faith that we'll sign a CB and Hugo replacement who will be up to standard required to make us contenders....and these are critically important positions.
Albertbarich
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I want to see the post window speech.
Is Conte staying ? What's the plan ? Can we compete financially with the top clubs and if not why not?
Searching for deals and opportunities in each window isn't planning or acting like a big club.
Porro is a superb signing but beyond that what's the plan? The defence is in desperate need of some experience and we're ignoring it and pushing it down the line again. There is no reason not to address that this month.
Money aside because I see both sides to the argument of both being cautious and going for it (although post stadium build I believe we should absolutely be in the camp of the latter) my biggest gripe is Levy seems to be reactionary and totally lacking in a footballing vision.
I don't know what type of club were trying to be .
Is Conte staying ? What's the plan ? Can we compete financially with the top clubs and if not why not?
Searching for deals and opportunities in each window isn't planning or acting like a big club.
Porro is a superb signing but beyond that what's the plan? The defence is in desperate need of some experience and we're ignoring it and pushing it down the line again. There is no reason not to address that this month.
Money aside because I see both sides to the argument of both being cautious and going for it (although post stadium build I believe we should absolutely be in the camp of the latter) my biggest gripe is Levy seems to be reactionary and totally lacking in a footballing vision.
I don't know what type of club were trying to be .
Russ1201
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So true mate that's why lately we very rarely get transfers done on deadline day due to the added time restraints, competition from teams like us desperate.
Thing is in levys mind this is the best strategy and that's what makes it worse.. I think he does it hoping to bargain down players desperate to leave and to save wages.
That's why I'm desperate for him to leave hasn't a clue on the football side. Bet you he wouldn't do the same thing when buying property.
Mattspur
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Hey @SirNiNyHotspur, What is your understanding of the reason you believe Levy just wants to maximise profits for ENIC? Can you explain what you believe is happening to these profits? What would you like to happen with these profits which isn't happening now?
Dazzazzad
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You don't think we did that last window?
Clear plan. Early signings. Pretty big spend. Fans were happy (although because so much was done early there was appetite for one more big signing near the end) and many in the media said we had the best window.
The window before that we got kulu and bents.
Is that not 3 good windows in a row then?
BorjeSpurs
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The days we announced our summer signings (excluding Udogie as he is joining next summer)
Perisic 31 May
Forster 8th June
Bissouma 17th June
Richarlison 1st July
Lenglet 8th July
Spence 20th July
Freddie
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The revisionism is crazy. No one was really criticising Levy /the window after the summer's business. Perisic was perfect/world class/knew Conte, now he's a 34yo free transfer because he hasn't been great. Most people were rating the window 7 or 8 out of ten for who we got and doing the deals early. If that's being revised downwards and blame is being placed on Levy (maybe rightly) those fans also have to accept that they got way too carried away.
Personally could never understand how the summer was looked upon so favourably when Lenglet was the only CB we brought in. I've also still got doubts about how Richarlison actually fits in to our team in the long run.
Albertbarich
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Just a personal point here.
Sometimes when I feel negative I don't bother as you get attacked for it.
The summer was good but I felt we were short in attack and I think I've been proven right and that we needed to address the defence but you're almost gaslighted I to accepting the cheap loan option as it's not the clubs fault if who they want isn't available.
Looks like we yet again kicking that can down the road.
If we end up with two it will be a typical Levy window. Just enough to keep some happy and make sure those that like him can leap to his defence but not enough to really push on. Always babysteps and excuses.
If you're happy then fair play but we were promised a game changing stadium and it's not changed a thing except for pricing loads of us out. You can point to spending more but everyone is spending more, were still hopeful for fourth and that's it.
Were still not addressing glaring weakness because they can't get a deal, still looking for opportunities rather than scouting and being decisive and still miles off being serious challengers.
SirNiNyHotspur
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hey MattEnicInspur, I dunno maybe they want to add even more real estate projects, or just beef us up more for when they cash in, or maybe they siphoning out to other self interest projects. Whatever it is they’re clearly not prioritizing the team still as we could spend much more than we’re doing on the team, check out swiss ramble when you have the time.
I enjoy Jordan because he always gives some sort of challenging and often insightful opinion. He doesn't regurgitate cliches. I sometimes don't agree but I do respect him for his views. That said, I think he sometimes gets too much credit for being some sort of oracle which is probably a result of him being so articulate.
