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McFlash · Jan 31, 2023

chas vs dave said:
It's not a barometer. Just using an example to demonstrate thay no matter how much money there is, there isnt always the availability of players. People keep saying to strengthen at CB. Who is available right now?

Tell me a club who has had a perfect window, and left their squad without deficiencies?

There's no such thing as a perfect window, there is however, such a thing as a poor window.

Our deficiencies have been rolling over for the past few windows now, in defence in particular.

And there were plenty of CB's available, it just seems like we didn't want to stump up any decent amount of reddies for them.

Teddy Klinsmann · Jan 31, 2023

Trix said:
I don't get why we keep looking at what others are doing as some sort of barometer for what we do, especially Chelsea. Every window posters like you pick a club and use it to prove your point as to why things are so difficult. Every window however it's a different club that's used. Why is that do you think? I'll tell you why because it's a different club every window that is struggling to get certain deals done, yet we are the constant.

If you think we've done well this window so be it, but do you not think we could and should have done more?

Every window there are numerous excuses as to why we've left our selves short. The problem is in the first two word of this paragraph. It's EVERY WINDOW.

It isn't easy, it never is! It isn't however always as difficult as we make it.

Spot on. Remember Levy’s famous line about how all money raised was put back into the team. Nonsense! Glaring holes still - particularly at cb.

Bluto Blutarsky · Jan 31, 2023

I don't have a big issue with Porro being our only primary target in - but I do have an issue that we waited until deadline day to complete the deal, at a fee that we could have gotten done on January 1.

ReadieSpur · Jan 31, 2023

I wonder if Conte had shown commitment to the club, whether he'd have been backed more.. If he's off in 6 months, there is very little point splashing out on players for him.

Stamford · Jan 31, 2023

Mr Pink said:
The point on Arsenal is moot. Pieces of the jigsaw take time to come together....but they didn't fuck about and put them together.

They now look like winning the league.

Maybe but we never put the pieces together. Because by the time we fill the CB's there will be another issue on the horizon to deal with.

Darth Vega · Jan 31, 2023

ReadieSpur said:
I wonder if Conte had shown commitment to the club, whether he'd have been backed more.. If he's off in 6 months, there is very little point splashing out on players for him.

Poch was committed and he never got backed fully either. It's the same thing window after window.

JCRD · Jan 31, 2023

Its easy to get a centre back in but not easy to get the ones we want - perhaps those defenders we want will only be available in the summer. The defenders who have moved or are available may well be better than what we have right now but they may not be the ones to propel us forward

Maybe it is just my expectations and not being overly bothered as im focussed on the next summers window being the pivotal one. The Jan windows really are just to top up on what you have. Its the snack window and not the main meal.

djhotspur · Jan 31, 2023

ReadieSpur said:
I wonder if Conte had shown commitment to the club, whether he'd have been backed more.. If he's off in 6 months, there is very little point splashing out on players for him.

Regardless of who the manager is we desperately need CBs and a GK

Yid-ol · Jan 31, 2023

Darth Vega said:
Poch was committed and he never got backed fully either. It's the same thing window after window.

Wasn't there comments that players were offered to poch and he kept turning them down? Can't remember who he wanted and if they were available or not anymore though.

pablo73 · Jan 31, 2023

ReadieSpur said:
I wonder if Conte had shown commitment to the club, whether he'd have been backed more.. If he's off in 6 months, there is very little point splashing out on players for him.

Yeah, definitely Conte's fault.

It's not like we've been here over and over again.

Teddy Klinsmann · Jan 31, 2023

JCRD said:
Its easy to get a centre back in but not easy to get the ones we want - perhaps those defenders we want will only be available in the summer. The defenders who have moved or are available may well be better than what we have right now but they may not be the ones to propel us forward

Maybe it is just my expectations and not being overly bothered as im focussed on the next summers window being the pivotal one. The Jan windows really are just to top up on what you have. It’s the snack window and not the main meal.

We all thought that this this time last year. Ended up with a centre back on loan from a club who didn’t play him.

chas vs dave · Jan 31, 2023

McFlash said:
There's no such thing as a perfect window, there is however, such a thing as a poor window.

Our deficiencies have been rolling over for the past few windows now, in defence in particular.

And there were plenty of CB's available, it just seems like we didn't want to stump up any decent amount of reddies for them.

Who? There is an assumption that they'd a) want to come, or b) be wanted by conte.

We've just paid 40m odd for a rwb and were trying to get hincapie by all accounts. Perhaps the other options weren't seen as an improvement to the defence.

Our biggest deficiency was at rwb. That's being sorted, also a lack of attacking options has been a problem. Our bench has been stacked out with cbs over the last 6 weeks.

Scot-Spur · Jan 31, 2023

We target elite CBS but don’t want to pay the price, we sit around hoping one falls into our lap at a knockdown price. You want Bastoni, Gvardiol or who ever put up the money. Don’t wait around hoping to get them cheap because someone else will pay up.

kendoddsdadsdogsdead · Jan 31, 2023

Been out all day so maybe been covered but haven’t we got to spend the rest of £150m share issue this window. if Porro is a loan we still haven’t got through that yet I don’t think unless it’s been spent elsewhere.

JCRD · Jan 31, 2023

Teddy Klinsmann said:
We all thought that this this time last year. Ended up with a centre back on loan from a club who didn’t play him.

Understood but that was last summer, so this summer coming is the one window I think things will happen as its the main window following last summer. If things dont happen this summer with changes in GK and the back line then we will have serious issues and ill follow suit

Thenewcat · Jan 31, 2023

knowlespurs said:
You pay the money you can get in as many as you like

So basically you’re moaning that we aren’t chelsea spraying money around with no plan at all?

You can buy as many as you like but you’ll probably overpay and not get your top targets. Find me a top team who bought 4 first team players in a January window. I’ll wait

ReadieSpur · Jan 31, 2023

djhotspur said:
Regardless of who the manager is we desperately need CBs and a GK

For the sake of 6 months it's probably best to let the new manager pick his own.

JCRD · Jan 31, 2023

Scot-Spur said:
We target elite CBS but don’t want to pay the price, we sit around hoping one falls into our lap at a knockdown price. You want Bastoni, Gvardiol or who ever put up the money. Don’t wait around hoping to get them cheap because someone else will pay up.

Bastoni wanted to stay - we could have offered 100m to Inter and he would have still stayed.

Gvardiol - was never leavign last summer and no one exactly prized him away.

Signings of that calibre was never happening this window.

glacierSpurs · Jan 31, 2023

It just amazes me we always heard of the club talking to multiple options, but in most cases we seldom heard of the club going for the 2nd option after the failure of landing the 1st. We just gave up altogether.

roy@SC · Jan 31, 2023

ReadieSpur said:
I wonder if Conte had shown commitment to the club, whether he'd have been backed more.. If he's off in 6 months, there is very little point splashing out on players for him.

It's a fair point. However how did we get to this point so quickly with him? Surely the board knew how demanding he was and what he would want. I'm sure they did, but they have still come up short. Seems like they are just continuously buying time.
Poch was committed and they failed him too....

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